My point exactly, if ,as some say, there is a hatred for Cal by the refs(I don't think that is true) then Cal has to be smart enough to NOT give them an excuse to T him up. Stay in the damn box. Why do people want to blame everyone and everything for an action by another? Cal was clearly out of the box, in a crucial part of the game. He has to be smarter than that.
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That’s actually the opposite of the truth.
You ask what the rule states, and then immediately communicate that one coach’s actions do not matter.
That is as an agenda driven statement as I have ever come across.
Congratulations on your blatant bias.
How do you know he wasn't warned?
I officiated HS bb and fb for over 20 yrs and some coaches reputation precedes them. Cal is definitely in that category. He doesn't just complain to officials, he constantly whines with that poor puppy dog face. Refs dislike Cal because of this and I would too if I still reffed. There are ways to argue and complain without all that whining.
The Technical Foul resulted after Knox scored 2 to tie the game at 38-38. Then KState hit a 3 to take a 41-38 lead then the Knox offensive foul that could have went for a 3 point play for UK that would have tied the game but the ref called the offensive foul and took away the basket. Then Coach Cal received the technical and KState made the technical to go up 42-38 and KState kept possession and hit another 3 pointer to go up 45-38 then a Green turnover leads to another layup and KState was leading 47-38 and UK took a full timeout down 9 points. So, the technical went from Knox being called for the offensive foul instead of the layup and possible free throw which would have tied it up 41-41 instead KState was leading 41-38 and hit Technical and had a 3 pointer and layup to go up 9, 47-38. The Technical was huge and went from a possible tie at 41-41 to KState up 9, 47-38.
Then UK came back twice after the technical to take another 1 point lead and then another time trailed by 1. That is when PJ went 5 of 14 from the Free Throw Line from the 8:40 mark until end of the game. If we can hit these Free Throws until the end of the game Kentucky would have won this game by Double Digits. The 1st half PJ went 3 of 6 and missed 2 front end of One and Ones. Both halves PJ missed 2 front-end of his One and Ones which doesn't show in the stats. PJ was actually 8 of 24 instead of 8 of 20 because of the 4 One and Ones that he missed in both halves. In the 2nd half when we hit the 8 minute mark is when Coach Cal kept feeding the ball to PJ to drive to the basket and that is when he went 5 for 14 in 2nd half. If I was Cal and knowing PJ was having an off night at the free throw line I would have switched and went with Knox. Knox was getting hot in the 2nd half and that is when I would feed the ball to Knox and let him take it to the basket and draw the fouls and had Knox at the Free throw line. We were 23-37 from the Free Throw line and PJ missed 12 free throws and the rest of the team was 15-17 from the Free Throw Line. I am not trying to put the whole blame here on PJ but if your going to take it to the basket and draw these fouls you have to make the Free Throws. That is when I would had Knox driving to the basket and drawing the fouls. Too many missed FT's, too many stupid Turnovers, and that stupid Technical is what cost UK the game.
Then UK came back twice after the technical to take another 1 point lead and then another time trailed by 1. That is when PJ went 5 of 14 from the Free Throw Line from the 8:40 mark until end of the game. If we can hit these Free Throws until the end of the game Kentucky would have won this game by Double Digits. The 1st half PJ went 3 of 6 and missed 2 front end of One and Ones. Both halves PJ missed 2 front-end of his One and Ones which doesn't show in the stats. PJ was actually 8 of 24 instead of 8 of 20 because of the 4 One and Ones that he missed in both halves. In the 2nd half when we hit the 8 minute mark is when Coach Cal kept feeding the ball to PJ to drive to the basket and that is when he went 5 for 14 in 2nd half. If I was Cal and knowing PJ was having an off night at the free throw line I would have switched and went with Knox. Knox was getting hot in the 2nd half and that is when I would feed the ball to Knox and let him take it to the basket and draw the fouls and had Knox at the Free throw line. We were 23-37 from the Free Throw line and PJ missed 12 free throws and the rest of the team was 15-17 from the Free Throw Line. I am not trying to put the whole blame here on PJ but if your going to take it to the basket and draw these fouls you have to make the Free Throws. That is when I would had Knox driving to the basket and drawing the fouls. Too many missed FT's, too many stupid Turnovers, and that stupid Technical is what cost UK the game.
********! Was Cal out of the box or not? Answer that question honestly and you have your answer. If you and another car are driving too fast and you get pulled over, do you think that cop gives a rats *** about your excuse that the other car was speeding as well? You think he will let you off because you cry about the other car? Grow up!
Cal is always out of the box, and even out on the floor, so, yea, refs know this.
If I was Coach Cal I would make sure that I was nowhere near getting out of the box. He almost had Technicals in the first 2 games vs. Davidson & Buffalo. These are killers when we are tied or down 1 and they hit the technicals, then a 3 point play and a layup to go up 9 points instead of being tied or down 1. That was so huge getting that technical leading to 6 or 8 points and taking a 9 point lead. That was a big turnaround for Kansas State.
Yep. If you are leading, you can afford to give up a few points to make a statement, but when you are behind and trying to catch up, it is a real stupid thing to do.
Won't be honest with an answer, huh? I see your agenda, won't debate facts, but choose to hurl insults, well hurl away! Are you really a Georgia fan? You guys got a good one coming down there now, free entertainment.
It’s your dishonesty on display. Keep digging. You are almost there.
I didn't say Cal was not classy. He is whiney and officials don't like that. There is a way to argue with officials to get your point across and Cal doesn't have it or the officials respect....and it shows.
Well, every time I have seen a Coach officially warned as in officially recieving a warning, it's during play or after a made basket or the such..not just Coach Cal but any Coach. And that kind of T on a Coach might get called in 1 out every 100 or more games. Extremely rare.
Oh and yes, you would love Coach K.
So why don't the other whiners get the same treatment?
I don't watch a lot of bb other than the Cats, so you will have to enlighten me as to who the other whiners are.
I just did.name one. The most well known currrnt coach of all college basketball.
So. You don't know who K is?
You don't watch other college basketball games BUT you are going to single out one coach and call him a whiner.
You should not be a refereeing any sports. It is obvious you form opinions and agendas and then have a bias against certain individuals.
Yeah, I see what you mean. It's a conspiracy.kay:
I never said that, man. More than anything, it's just ******** is what it is. I presented at least some facts..just like I do with all of my opinions/"conspiracy theories" that you guys turn them into..then you guys come back with mindless or at best opinionated replies with no facts whatsoever. I guess you guys have to lash out at people after a tough loss. It's cool..I get it. I used to be the same way.
Explain to us Mr. Ex Official how Rat Face cusses the officials like dogs? How come he doesn't get called for being out of the box?
You may have a tin foil cap... but he is acting like a tool
I watch all UK games and some others, just not many. No, I didn't stay at Holiday Inn last night. Maybe you are "acting like a tool".
They had the ball anyway so them getting a 3 doesn't make it a 4 point play. If there was no tech they had the ball anyway.
They did get 1 point that turned out huge. The key being when there was about 50 seconds left we would been up 1 instead of tied and K-State would not have sat there running down the clock before shooting and scoring with 20 seconds left. They would been down 1 and would have had to run normal offense and had they scored we would been down 1 and in the final seconds we would been down 2 instead of 3.
No one knows how it would played out I would like to think down 1 we would have drove to the rim instead of taking a 3 but who knows and if down 2 with 5 seconds left we would went inside but again who knows.
What I do know is giving away free points in a game like that was very stupid on Coach Cal's part to get a tech.
Yes, Cal seems to be targeted by the officials. No the other coaches don't. It is what it is and not fair but it is not going to change anytime soon. With that being said, and I am sure Cal knows this, so why would he antagonize the refs and do something he KNOWS is going to give them a reason to penalize the team? He is a very smart man, but he is also very, very stubborn and that can cause some problems in close games like this.
Your argument proves that officials are biased. A referee shouldn't make calls based on whether or not he likes certain coaches. If he sees a coach out of the box he should warn them, and if it continues, then he should T them up. That should be the same for both coaches. If he chose to make the call on Cal and ignore the fact that Weber was also out of the box, it shows he is biased and has no business calling games.
First off, this rule and the punishment is stupid and extreme.
The question I have is why did the officials choose to enforce the rule at that time? What's the breaking point? Most of us know that when driving we can go 5 or 10 miles over the speed limit and most cops aren't going to ticket us. They can, but normally don't. So, why did the official decide that this was the breaking point for them? It didn't hurt the play or effect anything from what I saw, so why did they decide to use it then?
The question I have is why did the officials choose to enforce the rule at that time? What's the breaking point? Most of us know that when driving we can go 5 or 10 miles over the speed limit and most cops aren't going to ticket us. They can, but normally don't. So, why did the official decide that this was the breaking point for them? It didn't hurt the play or effect anything from what I saw, so why did they decide to use it then?
Locking the thread. All of this name calling by adults as well as the language....
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