Cal is definitiely on the offensive after what people said last year and I know Matt says he is talking down to fans but it seems to me like he is taking shots on the media. When Cal says "people who think their bigger than the program" and "have an agenda" it feels like to me that he has a problem with KSR and Matt? Maybe I am crazy.
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Cal is definitiely on the offensive after what people said last year and I know Matt says he is talking down to fans but it seems to me like he is taking shots on the media. When Cal says "people who think their bigger than the program" and "have an agenda" it feels like to me that he has a problem with KSR and Matt? Maybe I am crazy.
Kentucky v All Ya’ll !!!
Ryan Lemond says there's a 99 percent chance Cal is not talking about KSR.
Also listens to his daughters who have been attacked relentlessly year after year by some of the worst shameless BBN mouth breathers.
All the media gets their info from this board. Since we know more then anyone else.
Brilliant first post, OP. Well worth starting a new account.
You've accomplished something pretty rare, starting from a place where it would be virtually impossible not to greatly improve on your second post.
You've accomplished something pretty rare, starting from a place where it would be virtually impossible not to greatly improve on your second post.
The real crime in all of this, is that the OP subscribes to the Courier Journal. I wouldn’t use that rag as toilet paper.
I like this new Cal that is showing some fire and kick back. It seemed like the last few years he became really soft, like when he said he didn't want to take any players heart. But Cal deserved the criticism as he let the program slip and it bottomed out last year. I'm sure Covid didn't help but that was a poorly constructed roster no matter what and would've been lucky to be above .500 in a normal year.
I'm happy with the changes and turnaround this year but Cal is not above criticism. Hopefully the criticism keeps motivating him.
I'm happy with the changes and turnaround this year but Cal is not above criticism. Hopefully the criticism keeps motivating him.
For the most part, Cal is complementary of the fan base. He does step all over the haters. They try to call themselves the fan base and hide in the blue mist. However, anyone with any sense knows better, nobody including Cal gives a damn about that segment anyway.
As far as the media, he send pretty much to ridicule them all. Even Sabin calls their product rat poison.
As far as the media, he send pretty much to ridicule them all. Even Sabin calls their product rat poison.
I’m sorry - he DID deserve heat after last year.
That being said - he tweaked the staff - and got us back where we belong in a few months … so, Bravo so far Cal.
Now, either play Shaedon - or he better be coming back next year.
That being said - he tweaked the staff - and got us back where we belong in a few months … so, Bravo so far Cal.
Now, either play Shaedon - or he better be coming back next year.
Could Cal knock out Matt Jones with one punch?
If thousands of people demanded I lose my job for an entire year I’d probably tell them to eat **** too. It’s human nature.
KSR is one step above a fanboy blog. Honestly.
The obsession that people have with Matt Jones…who gives a ****? Good for him carving out a role and making money. I don’t listen to his show and never have. I do follow him on Twitter but his takes are usually very bad.
I know more about Matt Jones from reading this board than anything else. Some of you should write his biography one day.
I know more about Matt Jones from reading this board than anything else. Some of you should write his biography one day.
Look I’m super happy with how this season is going, but two things:
#1 He pretty much DID burn it down and start over. New staff and almost completely new roster. Both of which were necessary because last year was a joke on all levels. He didn’t just go out and get talent, he got talent AND experience, and he got players that fit together instead of just throwing together a roster of random five stars. Fans had been hollering for all these things for YEARS. So forgive me if I’m not gonna kiss Cal’s feet because it took a 9-16 season for him to realize the obvious.
#2. Can we wait until April for the “I told you so” talk from Cal? The last 4 NCAA tournaments where we had teams with legitimate shots to win it all (14, 15, 17, 19) all ended in absolute heartbreak. If you look up the word “DUE” in the dictionary there is a picture of Kentucky. So just get it done. There’s nothing else to talk about. You have the best rebounder in UK history and one of the best ever in college, along with a slew of ultra-talented guards, and two junior forwards who are coming into their own. The time is now. Just do it.
#1 He pretty much DID burn it down and start over. New staff and almost completely new roster. Both of which were necessary because last year was a joke on all levels. He didn’t just go out and get talent, he got talent AND experience, and he got players that fit together instead of just throwing together a roster of random five stars. Fans had been hollering for all these things for YEARS. So forgive me if I’m not gonna kiss Cal’s feet because it took a 9-16 season for him to realize the obvious.
#2. Can we wait until April for the “I told you so” talk from Cal? The last 4 NCAA tournaments where we had teams with legitimate shots to win it all (14, 15, 17, 19) all ended in absolute heartbreak. If you look up the word “DUE” in the dictionary there is a picture of Kentucky. So just get it done. There’s nothing else to talk about. You have the best rebounder in UK history and one of the best ever in college, along with a slew of ultra-talented guards, and two junior forwards who are coming into their own. The time is now. Just do it.
I would pay good money to see that slap fight.
He deserved criticism last year and he deserves talking smack to all the haters this year, simple as that
All coaches listen and read. They all say they don't. They all do.
After losing TWICE last season to Oats and Bama, Cal REALLY enjoyed winning the game last night, especially the way it unfolded. Bama took 30 3 pt shots and only made 3. UK took 11 and made 4 yet still won by double digits.
Cal is convinced that his method of attacking the basket is superior to jacking up 3's. The problem with his GLOATING over last nights win is that he has LOST to teams like Bama using the same script. After last season, I just hope he realizes that having VETERAN players makes the biggest difference in ANY style of play.
Cal is convinced that his method of attacking the basket is superior to jacking up 3's. The problem with his GLOATING over last nights win is that he has LOST to teams like Bama using the same script. After last season, I just hope he realizes that having VETERAN players makes the biggest difference in ANY style of play.
First point is fair. No excuse for the horse crap we saw last year.
Second point is warped from a statistical and historical standpoint. "Legitimate shots to win it all" don't materialize out of nowhere and drop into a coach's lap. Neither does the recruitment and growth of those players you describe, though you make it sound like a bow-wrapped gift.
That "shot" itself that you perceive at the beginning of March is the culmination of excellent work, and you count in one hand the number of coaches in the country who regularly get those "shots".
Add in the unique and bizarre single-elimination nature of the tournament and compare Cal's averages/percentages to the long view of UK history, and the tough talk about UK standards starts to shrivel. We don't lead the country in tournament wins every decade. We do that when we have legendary coaches. Any coach who does so deserves more benefit of the doubt than what you see from some on this board.
Great post. Except, I doubt anything from the fans motivates him on his changes.
It seems to me that, because they are veterans, they have more appreciation for their opportunity to play at Kentucky and enjoy being here. They are mature enough to understand what the tradition actually is all about. They are more inclined to embrace it and want to continue its success. I especially sense that in Wheeler, Grady, Mintz and Oscar. I think it will be the same for CJF next year. Hopefully, it is rubbing off on Sharpe.
Point number 2 is so absurd. You must be joking? Most teams with a legitimate chance to win the national title don’t “get the job done.” Usually there are around 8 or so teams with a legit shot to win it all, and almost every single one of them loses. Open the window up reality is right outside
My opinion- he deserved criticism after last year. It's part of the job and he should expect it. Some may have gone overboard with the criticism and they deserve a little blowback at this point. So, I'm fine with all of it.
Poor ol' put upon Cal, actually doing this season what is expected of Kentucky basketball which is to be a legitimate Final Four/Championship contender
No, it isn’t a bow-wrapped gift. But here’s the thing: you can’t view the one-and-done era through a historical lens.
Do you remember in ‘17 when Fox and Bam were bawling their eyes out in the locker room after the UNC loss? For decades, that type of emotional pain (not to mention just the experience of playing in a regional final) could have helped form the foundation of a future champion. It often did.
Now, you get one shot with each roster. One.
Am I saying it is realistic to expect a championship? Of course not. The odds are ALWAYS against it, no matter who you are. I’m simply saying that with so little continuity, all the eggs get put in one basket every season. So when a team falls short, it’s magnified. By the way cowboygumboots I’m not going to bother responding to your post as well because it would be the same response.
When KSR sold, there was a definite change in the air.
They went after Cal last year, and I think rightfully so. They had a story about how its time for him to stop telling lies to CYA and play the media, they also went after him for attacking the fans.
At the end of the day, Cal recognized he took the program over a cliff (don't try to tell me he didn't) and he made changes that got the program back on track. I'm not all in on a changed Cal. Honestly I think if he has another great year then he just goes back to his old ways, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
At any rate, KSR stopped being a mouthpiece for the university when it was sold and started being an observer of what is happening at face value.
They went after Cal last year, and I think rightfully so. They had a story about how its time for him to stop telling lies to CYA and play the media, they also went after him for attacking the fans.
At the end of the day, Cal recognized he took the program over a cliff (don't try to tell me he didn't) and he made changes that got the program back on track. I'm not all in on a changed Cal. Honestly I think if he has another great year then he just goes back to his old ways, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
At any rate, KSR stopped being a mouthpiece for the university when it was sold and started being an observer of what is happening at face value.
Matt was a suck *** until he lost his contacts within the program. I’ve also noticed Calipari use to do interviews through out the year every now and again but has since stopped.
Since Calipari has quit giving his time to KSR, Calipari has become Matt’s whipping boy unlike Stoops, who does interviews quite a bit after big games and during the offseason. Matt will wear out his welcome with Stoops too, it’s just a matter of time.
I always thought Calipari was talking back to the media, it was the media claiming he was talking down to the fans in my opinion.
Since Calipari has quit giving his time to KSR, Calipari has become Matt’s whipping boy unlike Stoops, who does interviews quite a bit after big games and during the offseason. Matt will wear out his welcome with Stoops too, it’s just a matter of time.
I always thought Calipari was talking back to the media, it was the media claiming he was talking down to the fans in my opinion.
I agree with 90% of what you're saying - which makes it all the more remarkable how often he has top 5 (or close to it) squads by March. And it's not like he doesn't win games when he gets there. If the outcomes, over the whole span, are up to par in terms of raw numbers, then why pull your hair out over the continuity issue?
Funny thing is Matt Jones never spoke an ill word and ran down anyone who disagrees with him or the notion of being critical of Cal. Now that Calipari has taken issue with MJ's criticisms of him, there's an issue. MJ has an ego as wide as the Grand Canyon.