That’s weak sauce, boy, where's the real McCoy?
This is amateur hour right now, give me the good stuff. I want to be amused, so far, you've brought nothing.
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This is amateur hour right now, give me the good stuff. I want to be amused, so far, you've brought nothing.
Supported worse.
Keep wishing him away. Remember how fans wanted Tubby gone and then got BCG. There is always worse than what you got.
Mitch did hire BCG. Do you trust him with a hire again?
About 95% of college coaches make adjustments through out the season to plug holes or in other words make their teams better. It's called coaching.
The record vs ranked teams is worrisome but going 0-2 this season is not the end all just yet. Still extremely early. This team is no where close to peaking which is not a bad thing in November and December.
Will support the team as long as there is a team out there. No matter who is coaching. Cal spoiled us early. His record speaks for itself. He made UMass and Memphis winners. He had this a juggernaut early, but be patient. We will be fine.
The problem is... Cal can't scheme. He has to have an overwhelming talent advantage to be relevant; he can't coach good or even very good players, he needs GREAT players. In short, he's not a good basketball coach. If folks can't see that by now they never will.
Also, the acceptance of mediocrity is mind blowing. You can talk "good season...overtime, haters...upset" all you want. If you take an honest look at the program, the results will tell you all you need to know. No caveats, no excuses.
Funny man trying to goad someone that makes you look foolish into saying something to bring a mod? Only people that buy your crap are the Cal haters.
Nobody here is saying they won't support the team.
Everyobe here knows we can do worse
Everyone here knows Barnhart can't he trusted, but just.like in 2009, UK will hold Barney's hand through the process.
Everyone here understands the bad start to this season, isn't the end of the world
I believe I covered everything you said, but what you have yo understand is, none of the stuff you mentioned is the issue, we're well past all that stuff. The isdues are much deeper and older.
I'm not trying to bait you, I'm just coaching you. I want you to be the absolute best troll you can be.
Right now, you're a C- troll, but you can be so much better.
I have faith in you buddy, I think you can be great. Shoot for the stars.
I understand what’s wrong as much as any fan. But, I plan to remain positive and hope this team can turn things around.
Seriously, are you complaining because Brooks left? This board was almost giddy when he left. Brooks never consistently produced on the court for us. That was not a bad loss. I wish him the best but to complain that Cal ran off Brooks is dumb. And, as for Toppin, most of this board was excited to get him back. This board is ridiculous. Posters scream that so and so should get a chance and then when he does and flops, they blame Cal.
Thats jus
Make an 8-10 point difference yourself with just how you out strategize the other guy and outscheme the other guy and out adjust the to other guys! Stop watching the game like we all do reacting to every missed shot or turnover and relying on nothing but subbing guys in and out for your fix! Coach it!
Thats just it, I want to support him and admit I kind of like him personally and feel a littel bad picking at him all the time. But he just frustrates the dickens out of me because I know he could be much better. He knows basketball, just coach it coach and stop with all the theorizing.
Make an 8-10 point difference yourself with just how you out strategize the other guy and outscheme the other guy and out adjust the to other guys! Stop watching the game like we all do reacting to every missed shot or turnover and relying on nothing but subbing guys in and out for your fix! Coach it!
Hi Jeff, hope all is well man. We all love UK basketball, and assuredly, this is one of the top 3-4 college basketball coaching spots in the country. But I do think times have changed a bit. Just as we've seen players learn you can go play at Purdue or Florida State and still be a high draft pick (and not have to go to one of the blue blood programs), I think the same can be somewhat similar for coaches. Sure there would be a long list of coaches that would love to coach at UK. But the list isn't as long when you look at guys that are deserving of the job. The guys on that list may not necessarily be "crawling to Lexington." I honestly don't see Bryce Drew coming here at all, I could see a scenario where Musselman turns down the job too. Obviously, there have been threads upon threads about who the replacement might be. I just don't think it's going to be that easy to get the "right" guy in here. But what do I know? I'm just speculating like the next guy. Here's an honest theoretical question for you: Would you be okay with OSU's Chris Holtmann taking over? I don't think his credentials are there personally, but he's a Kentucky guy who would actually be one that crawls here. Because that might be the caliber of guy UK has to take a chance with when all of this is said and done.
I think it’s way underestimated the number of high quality coaches that would come here. A blue blood program has to be the lifetime dream of a coach. Eddie said he would have crawled here; luckily he had a driver and didn’t have to, but nonetheless, it’s not gonna be a problem getting interest from capable coaches. Just have to pick the right one.
I would disagree most did develop their acumen there. I believe you do know the game by the way many on both sides Iwould say most posts are emotion driven. That said anyone that knows the game at all can clearly see Cal runs literally no sets, it’s a Harlem globetrotter offense.
Well, that's slightly better than your other troll attempts, but it’s still weak sauce, c'mon boy, you can do better, I have faith in you.
I want the team to win too and I too think he will be around because Mitch doesn’t have the clout, support, or balls to fire him. I will however voice my displeasure at this crap he calls basketball to try and pressure anyone that does have the power to affect change in his approach or his job.
It was good until our guards couldn’t walk, that’s also a Cal problem. Not recruiting or developing depth. That offense fell apart after those two wins. That entire season last year rests on 3 games imo. Oscar made the year fun and beating Tennessee, KU, and UNC made the year. Around February the cracks showed, and we talked ourselves into getting healthy and it never returned.
We are 0-3 against good teams. If we are calling State mediocre that’s even worse IMO.
I just can't put my finger on the problem. Heck, none of us can.
I think the main issues start with the fact he has a new team every year and that can’t be easy to do. But that's not the thing that is stalling his teams.
I know there were a few games where the team clicked last year, but those were track meet type games and we all saw what happened when Barnes made simple adjustments and what happened when teams slowed the pace on us. It was ugly.
It comes down to his offense, it's easily defended, we don't even make defenses think. We never end up with a center trying to check one of our guards and it's set up so each player has to get their own, with no help.
That’s just not going to work. You’re not going to win 6 games in a row in the ncaat with that offense. Not in today’s game and it won't work next year either.
He HAS to change his offense, it's that simple. He’s been running this same trash since he got here and it no longer works, but listening to him on his show last night told me he's not going to change squat. Is what it is.
I have always considered myself a supporter of the Kentucky basketball program and a believer that our team should be the best in the SEC. That is part of the Kentucky tradition, along with great players, fast breaks, and NCAAT success. As long as Cal or any other Kentucky coach can maintain those standards without getting the program in trouble, I am good. Everybody on this board knows they were Cal supporters when he won the national championship. Until recently, this board was full of threads about recruiting class rankings and top 10 prospects. I do not give up on a coach until it is clear to me that he cannot do the job. Cal just produced another #1 class. But he has convinced me that he no longer has the focus and people skills to build great players into a championship team. This is the man's life work. That should not be taken lightly, just as none of you would want your careers to be taken lightly. It is a sad thing when any person can no longer do their job. But the issue with Cal is the contract, because that is an impediment to fixing the program. I think Cal will coach his Wagner-Dillingham class, because there is not a practical way to prevent that unless he retires. If he fubars this team and next year's team, I think he is gone one way or another. Don't ask me how. But MB ran Tubby off and I think he knows it is time for Cal to go too. Let's allow it to happen before lighting the board on fire with assumptions that may not be right.
That wasn't exactly the case with Billy G. His quote is his introductory presser (which was endearing at the time): "I don't care if I was the 5th, 6th 7th choice... being the coach at Kentucky is great" (paraphrased). It speaks to your point that guys definitely want to be here... But the guys that would be right for the program, meaning those capable coaches, may not.
You’re preaching to the choir. Yup, I've been saying it for years. You can go to App State and get drafted, you don't need UK, or Cal.
I mean, maybe some guys get a boost and end up more prepared, but the NBA does more for that than Cal does.
That’s why I keep pounding tbis into the ground. Stop making this about the NBA. Just stop. Make it about UK. Turn tjis bavk.into a program where kids stay and develop.
Also, I'm so tired of people thinking we need to have NBA draft picks on the roster to win. That’s incredibly wrong. No, you need good seasoned college basketball players that play like a unit, to win. If anybody wants proof, just look at the teams getting to final 4's and winning titles. See any teams with high first round draft picks on them? No.
Sure, guys from those teams have made it to the pros, but they did that BECAUSE they developed in the programs they came from. Divincenzo and Bridges don't get drafted if they leave Villanova after year 1 or 2. Bridges was ranked 96th coming out of HS. Divincenzo wasn't even ranked, both guys went in the first round.
Cal brags about all his draft picks, but 99% of those kids were getting drafted without his help, the one that should be bragging, is Jay Wright, he took D League talent and developed them into pros. THAT'S what we should be doing.
Heck, Jay Wright won a title with Arcidiacono as his pg in 2016 and Jalen Brunson as a pg in 2018. They had 1 big man on both teams that were nowhere near as good as Oscar is. Spellman was 6'9", Ochefu was a 6'll" senior. Oscar is better than both those guys.
Sorry for the long post.
I hear ya on that. But I was also saying it's similar now for coaches. Scott Drew may not stand to gain that much coming to a blue blood, leaving a comfy position having already won a title. So again, what do you foresee a coaching search look like. Because I think the well might be dryer than most are thinking. Like I said, how would you feel if Chris Holtmann is the new coach?
This isn't a gotcha post, it's a legit question. It's one thing to get Cal out of here, it's another to segue correctly into a new chapter.
Watching Cal over the years, I doubt they give a crap about offense till the defense kicks in. The guy is defense first. He has been since UMass.
And I have seen the globe trotters in person a number of times. No, nothing any team in basketball runs resembles that. Helps that the opposing team for them is a stage prop.
You are the one not taking an honest look. But hate on. It doesn't affect what I think for you to have hate. That's your cross to bear, not mine. There's a lot I don't like about Cal and his philosophy of coaching.
But to say a guy with 6 FF's at 3 different schools can't coach is just ludicrous. You're probably someone that thinks Tubby could coach?
And Cal doesn't need grat talent to win. He went to the FF at UMass with 1 first round pick. He went to the FF at Memphis with 2 first round picks. And how about our '11 team? Also FF. How many first rounders on that team?
But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Well I can’t justify BCG. Nobody can. Maybe he was 5th or above choice, I have no idea. I stand by saying quality coaches would jump at the chance to be here. As I also said, just have to get the right one. Us mortals have no control over that.
Can’t believe any legit UK fan would ask such a stupid question to try to make such a stupid point.
No, usually I did not. Knox was an exceedingly lazy defender, a poor passer, mistake prone and quite overrated.
About the only thing I really remember fondly about the 18 team was the play of SGA. The rest of that season is best characterized by words like dysfunction, underachievement, frustration and disappointment.
You have to go after the best personalities that hafe the best X's and O's.
Maybe you can get Donovan. Doubt it. But I bet we look pretty good to Musselman and Dan Hurley.
UK is still UK, it's still the cream of the crop and this is a job that will attract coaches that other jobs wouldn’t.
I bet Rick Pitino wasn't first on your list when UK was looking for a coach in 89.
Now that's more like it, complimenting your prey will get you everywhere.
Go on… .tell me more.