Cal supporters

[Rockfly78]

What’s the point of this thread? I mean really. Jeff what are you trying to accomplish? Serious question. I’m not here to defend Cal. My time doing that has slowly eroded away. I’ll defend his charity work but that’s about it.

What’s the point of this thread?

 

[ck-2]

I think with most of them it’s about themselves now and not CCC. They’re too invested to admit they’ve been wrong for years.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

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sk73
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Rockfly78 (he says he’s no Cal fan, but defends him over and over and over again)
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Damn dude, be like….

 

[Bkocats]

Maybe we can get t-shirts made for back to back sweet 16s!

I want popcorn buckets

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Really just a true picture. But I'll hang on as long as Cal is coach here. I want UK to win. No matter who is coaching. I think Cal's time here should come to an end. But until, and unless, it does I will support him.

Many flaws in your description. This is not a new team. In fact we are better when there is a new team. It means the others were good enough to go and a new crop of promising stars are here to learn. We had these duds for 3 and 4 seasons.

And after '15 is just talking points for haters. '16 was a rebuild year but we had Murray. Very exciting to have him. Skal was a bust. People wanted Cal to play Ulis over Andrew. What did Ulis do in '16?

'17 was a great team. Got cheated in the E8 game. Bam, Monk, Fox!! Oh my!! You didn't enjoy that team?

'18 was a injury filled year. But look at Knox. You didn't enjoy watching him play? The improvement of SGA over the season? Doesn't fit the narrative of Cal ruining players. PJ Washington?

'19 turned into a great team by season's end. Lost in overtime to Auburn for the FF. Hagans coming out party against UNC. Didn't enjoy that? How the way Cal ruined Herro?

'20 was another great team by season's end. Quickly was SEC POY. Another guy ruined by Cal and his system of not getting shooters open. WTF? Covid robbed that team of it's chances.

'21 was just flat awful. No one disputes that. But it's an aberration. Not a trend.

'22 was very good season. We were a 2 seed. We got upset. Oscar another player ruined by Cal into National POY.

The story is not written on '23. The first chapters do not look good. I agree with the LOD on that.

The problem Cal has is with his direction now. His mantra since coming here is "players first" and he will get the "best of the best". "If we help them get to their dreams then they will carry us to our dreams".

And he's right on that. The problem is he's not getting us the best of the best or even the above average of the above average. So you can't coach like you have those guys. This is a team with one first round draft pick on it. That's far from the "best of the best".

Cal needs to change to program first or move on.

But I think this illustrates things.
To me post 15 you had contenders in 17, 19 and last season (yes I know how that ended which obviously isn't making things better around here).

HOWEVER you had non contending teams in 16, 18, and 21.

Lets leave 20 out of this. We don't know what would have become of that season one way or the other. We were a projected 4 seed tho which is out of my range as a contending team.

Post 15, that's 50% over six seasons. That's not good enough IMO. You can't have a non contending season for every contending one here.

HOWEVER I do agree with the first paragraph. I mean heck we've sat here through two years of BCG. It doesn't mean people have to be happy about the direction. But yeah as the other thread about not going to the games, I'm still supporting this TEAM. I'll still go to the games. I'll still watch the games on TV. Regardless who is coach.

I don't really get the whole obsession with Cal thing that some have on here. He's the current coach of the current team that I fully support. And at some point he'll be the ex coach of the team that I still support.

These threads do nothing but further divide the fanbase IMO.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

What’s the point of this thread? I mean really. Jeff what are you trying to accomplish? Serious question. I’m not here to defend Cal. My time doing that has slowly eroded away. I’ll defend his charity work but that’s about it.

What’s the point of this thread?

Exactly. I mean what are we doing here exactly?

At the end of the day you are going to have people that like Cal and people that do not like Cal. And very little is going to change the mind of either camp.

 

[Rockfly78]

Exactly. I mean what are we doing here exactly?

At the end of the date you are going to have people that like Cal and people that do not like Cal. And very little is going to change the mind of either camp.

It’s just more divisive toxic **** posting. Middle school stuff. We all want the same thing in the end. I guess we are supposed to beat each other bloody along the way.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Man, what a statement. And what should be a wake-up call to anyone still on the fence over this shitshow that Cal is putting in.
The man makes more per game than most of our fans make in an entire year (except for the internet heroes who make millions and are married to supermodels).
If that isn't enough to make your blood boil, then you're either dead or a U6 fan.

That UCLA game woke just about the rest of the holdouts up. Only the Cal fan club here still hangs on.

 

[kyjeff1]

What’s the point of this thread? I mean really. Jeff what are you trying to accomplish? Serious question. I’m not here to defend Cal. My time doing that has slowly eroded away. I’ll defend his charity work but that’s about it.

What’s the point of this thread?

What's the point of this thread? I thought I was pretty clear.

Look, you are making a mountain out of a molehill here. This has been a fairly calm thread from everything I have seen.

Also, how are you going to call me out on this when I get attacked daily on here for my opinion and it's allowed to happen.

Now, the second I ask Cal fans a question, I get critisized? Come on now.

 

[kyjeff1]

Exactly. I mean what are we doing here exactly?

At the end of the day you are going to have people that like Cal and people that do not like Cal. And very little is going to change the mind of either camp.

Well, it sounds like you and @Rockfly78 disagree with this thread, so why are you both commenting in it???

There are 2,000 other threads for you guys to visit if you don't like this one.

You Cal fans have been the ones creating a divide on a daily basis on here.

Cal is killing UK, the national media is now calling him out and you guys want to give me **** over a thread that actually has good discussion in it?

Where are you guys when Bass, KL and ED are running around here calling everyone out that doesn't suck Cal off? Why don't you guys say anything to them?

 

[kyjeff1]

It’s just more divisive toxic **** posting. Middle school stuff. We all want the same thing in the end. I guess we are supposed to beat each other bloody along the way.

Just be sure to call out Ed, Bass and KL when they do it. Keep in mind, they do it daily in multiple threads

 

[Backer cutter]

Well, it sounds like you and @Rockfly78 disagree with this thread, so why are you both commenting in it???

There are 2,000 other threads for you guys to visit if you don't like this one.

You Cal fans have been the ones creating a divide on a daily basis on here.

Cal is killing UK, the national media is now calling him out and you guys want to give me **** over a thread that actually has good discussion in it?

Where are you guys when Bass, KL and ED are running around here calling everyone out that doesn't suck Cal off? Why don't you guys say anything to them?

They’re discussing options? Among options along crossed kneaded options? Jeez. Talking weird man. Ain’t never been disgusted on the farm in my 62 years. Hmmm.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Well, it sounds like you and @Rockfly78 disagree with this thread, so why are you both commenting in it???

There are 2,000 other threads for you guys to visit if you don't like this one.

You Cal fans have been the ones creating a divide on a daily basis on here.

Cal is killing UK, the national media is now calling him out and you guys want to give me **** over a thread that actually has good discussion in it?

Where are you guys when Bass, KL and ED are running around here calling everyone out that doesn't suck Cal off? Why don't you guys say anything to them?

How am I creating the divide.

I don’t make posts like this. At all. I don’t call anyone out over this stuff.

Actually the only time I ever mention the coach is when threads like these pop up.

Hilarious to make a thread like this and say that it’s me who is creating divide.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

And FWIW I agree with you

There ARE definitely people on that side as well that like to stir things up.

All of it is childish and stupid IMO. We are all UK fans. We all want success on the court. Period

 

[kyjeff1]

@The_Answer1313 and @Rockfly78 , I just reread my OP, I never crushed, or challenged anybody, I never attacked anyone and I never degraded anyone, I simply asked how long they were going to hang on.

I see nothing wrong with that OP. Tell me where the issue is, because I'm not seeing it.

 

[kyjeff1]

How am I creating the divide.

I don’t make posts like this. At all. I don’t call anyone out over this stuff.

Actually the only time I ever mention the coach is when threads like these pop up.

Hilarious to make a thread like this and say that it’s me who is creating divide.

First of all, when did I call you out, specifically?

Second of all, where's this "call out" that you speak of? Where did I call anyone out? I asked how long theey were going to hang on. How the hell is that a call out?

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

@The_Answer1313 and @Rockfly78 , I just reread my OP, I never crushed, or challenged anybody, I never attacked anyone and I never degraded anyone, I simply asked how long they were going to hang on.

I see nothing wrong with that OP. Tell me where the issue is, because I'm not seeing it.

All of it comes off very much like “I told you so” to me.

I just don’t really see the point in it. It’s just a rehashing of everything. And like no one is changing their stances on things.

I like you. We always have what I feel to be good conversations on here. I just feel like all these threads do is pit one group of the fan base against the other.

 

[kyjeff1]

And FWIW I agree with you

There ARE definitely people on that side as well that like to stir things up.

All of it is childish and stupid IMO. We are all UK fans. We all want success on the court. Period

Okay, so where are you when KL, Ed and Bass are trolling? They post things daily that are far worse than what I said in the OP. In fact, I still don't see the issue with anytning I said in the OP, I think you read it wrong.

 

[kyjeff1]

All of it comes off very much like “I told you so” to me.

I just don’t really see the point in it. It’s just a rehashing of everything. And like no one is changing their stances on things.

I like you. We always have what I feel to be good conversations on here. I just feel like all these threads do is pit one group of the fan base against the other.

What specific statement bleeds "I told you so". I'm not seeing it. I simply asked how long they were going to hang on. That’s not an "I told you so" statement.

 

[gojvc]

I don’t know how anyone could try and put Ulis down. Guy played with heart every time on the court.

I think that is definitely the part most people would not agree with.

 

[Ky_Bred_Cat]

Simple question for those who are still determined to support Cal.

Can Cal make UK elite again?

Simple yes or no question and 'his contract makes it a moot point' is not an answer to the question.

So, can Cal make UK elite again?

 

[ORCAT]

I admit I was a Cal supporter and hoped he would turn things around this year but I also feel I am now done supporting him and would not be disappointed to see him go. Tired of losing to other top teams all the time and losing the all time wins lead to Kansas - and making up no ground on UCLA for most titles. I'm ready for change!

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Just to answer the question we all know how long. It’s however long Cal is coaching here. That’s the answer. Because I feel like that portion of the fan base just views the coach as an extension of the team.

I don’t think anyone here is actually shedding a tear when Cal leaves. It’s just that he’s in the seat right now and I’d much rather watch us succeed than fail. He’s got a lifetime contract so he might be around for awhile. May as well hope this turns around.

 

[Backer cutter]

Simple question for those who are still determined to support Cal.

Can Cal make UK elite again?

Simple yes or no question and 'his contract makes it a moot point' is not an answer to the question.

So, can Cal make UK elite again?

No

 

[Rockfly78]

What's the point of this thread? I thought I was pretty clear.

Look, you are making a mountain out of a molehill here. This has been a fairly calm thread from everything I have seen.

Also, how are you going to call me out on this when I get attacked daily on here for my opinion and it's allowed to happen.

Now, the second I ask Cal fans a question, I get critisized? Come on now.

Why do you need to know where everyone stands? What does it matter? I’m not gonna fight over it. But who gives a **** really?

 

[26MichaelUK]

How long are you going to hang on?

Cal keeps taking us further into the basement. Everything he built from 09-15, went the other way extremely fast.

His system doesn't work. You can't have a new team every year, there are too many aspects of the game to shore up every year.

Cal spends all season long, every year, trying to plug holes, while we lose game after game.

Our record against ranked teams is flat out embarrassing.

How long are you going to support this guy?

Jeff, for me it's not about support. I just don't believe in firing a coach mid season. I'm absolutely sick of the ******** and excuses. Great coaches evolve with the game. Cal ran good offenses at UMASS and Memphis. But the game is nothing like it was back then. I love what Cal did from 2010 to the COVID season. I like it even better how great an ambassador he's been for the University and state. But if something doesn't change, and let's not kid ourselves cause it won't, it's time to look elsewhere.

I'd like to add that we better have a great coach lined up or our program could become an even worse **** show. Also just because some of us aren't more outspoken about it, it absolutely doesn't mean we cosign this mess. I know you never said that, I'm just saying it for others to see.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I mean if we are being honest here Cal had a good offense just as recently as last season.

 

[Rockfly78]

@The_Answer1313 and @Rockfly78 , I just reread my OP, I never crushed, or challenged anybody, I never attacked anyone and I never degraded anyone, I simply asked how long they were going to hang on.

I see nothing wrong with that OP. Tell me where the issue is, because I'm not seeing it.

I’ve maybe already covered it but the OP is definitively passive aggressive. It’s totally divisive

I mean, why do you need to know how long people will hold on? Why do you care?

 

[kyjeff1]

Why do you need to know where everyone stands? What does it matter? I’m not gonna fight over it. But who gives a **** really?

Why does it matter to you what I think?

I made the thread because it matters to me. I wanted to see who else jumped ship.

I don't see the issue and apparently it's been a topic many others are interested in, because it's about to go to page 3.

 

[kyjeff1]

I’ve maybe already covered it but the OP is definitively passive aggressive. It’s totally divisive

I mean, why do you need to know how long people will hold on? Why do you care?

The entire board is laced with threads from both sides that are based on things nobody NEEDS to know. It’s a discussion and I certainly don't see any passive-aggressive undertones.

 

[kyjeff1]

I admit I was a Cal supporter and hoped he would turn things around this year but I also feel I am now done supporting him and would not be disappointed to see him go. Tired of losing to other top teams all the time and losing the all time wins lead to Kansas - and making up no ground on UCLA for most titles. I'm ready for change!

@Rockfly78 and @The_Answer1313 , this right here is why the thread was started.

You guys can rest easy now. Now you know.

 

[Rockfly78]

Why does it matter to you what I think?

I made the thread because it matters to me. I wanted to see who else jumped ship.

I don't see the issue and apparently it's been a topic many others are interested in, because it's about to go to page 3.

Jeff dude, knowing you I’m sure the thread is just getting started. You can push any topic to 10+ pages lol. Party on.

 

[kyjeff1]

Jeff, for me it's not about support. I just don't believe in firing a coach mid season. I'm absolutely sick of the ******** and excuses. Great coaches evolve with the game. Cal ran good offenses at UMASS and Memphis. But the game is nothing like it was back then. I love what Cal did from 2010 to the COVID season. I like it even better how great an ambassador he's been for the University and state. But if something doesn't change, and let's not kid ourselves cause it won't, it's time to look elsewhere.

I'd like to add that we better have a great coach lined up or our program could become an even worse **** show. Also just because some of us aren't more outspoken about it, it absolutely doesn't mean we cosign this mess. I know you never said that, I'm just saying it for others to see.

Totally agree. I certainly don't want Cal fired in mid season, no way, that’s not what I'm going for. I just want to know who's still hanging on and who's jumping ship.

We all know Cal is here through next season, but that doesn't mean the fans can't send a message.

@Rockfly78 and @The_Answer1313 , here's another one that illistrates why the thread was created.

 

[kyjeff1]

Jeff dude, knowing you I’m sure the thread is just getting started. You can push any topic to 10+ pages lol. Party on.

Until you guys @'d me, I didn't even realize this thread was going.

 

[CHAMPCAT11]

CCC isn’t going to leave quietly and will burn Camelot setting small fires all over the program. Wait till he stops getting Top Classes. It’s going to get UGLY unfortunately.

I agree with you … but … it’s ALREADY ugly.

 

[26MichaelUK]

Totally agree. I certainly don't want Cal fired in mid season, no way, that’s not what I'm going for. I just want to know who's still hanging on and who's jumping ship.

We all know Cal is here through next season, but that doesn't mean the fans can't send a message.

@Rockfly78 and @The_Answer1313 , here's another one that illistrates why the thread was created.

My bad, I thought you meant firing him now. But agreed.

 

[CHAMPCAT11]

Exactly. I mean what are we doing here exactly?

At the end of the day you are going to have people that like Cal and people that do not like Cal. And very little is going to change the mind of either camp.

Something must be changing SOME of their minds because Triple C’s popularity is quickly going down the drain.

 

[26MichaelUK]

Jeff dude, knowing you I’m sure the thread is just getting started. You can push any topic to 10+ pages lol. Party on.

Bro, as someone who's went at it with Jeff for a year plus change, he just wants to win. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[STL_Cat]

What did Ulis do in '16?

- SEC Defensive Player of the Year
- SEC Player of the Year
- Bob Cousy Award Winner
- First Team All-SEC
- SEC Tournament Most Valuable Player
- Consensus First Team All-American

 

[Cats_2010]

Totally agree. I certainly don't want Cal fired in mid season, no way, that’s not what I'm going for. I just want to know who's still hanging on and who's jumping ship.

We all know Cal is here through next season, but that doesn't mean the fans can't send a message.

@Rockfly78 and @The_Answer1313 , here's another one that illistrates why the thread was created.

I would advocate for having him fired mid season (knowing fully well that’s not happening). Cal isn’t getting it done, not going to get it done, has made it painfully obvious he will not change to get it done. No reason to allow him to keep sinking the ship (except the damn buyout). I’m of the
Mindset, you cut bait as soon as you know it’s time. This season is still salvageable but not with cal walking the sidelines.