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CincyUKFan

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Problem is, teams don't let you just run it up and down the court like that.
West Virginia will, because that's their style, but you can't live like that in CBB. You have to be able to beat teams in the half court or you won't make it out of the first weekend in the NCAAT.
We're not going to get past the first round anyway. And while I understand what you're saying, we've had teams in the past that found success running the ball up the court even after made baskets. And, as I said, when you look at the WVU game, I'd argue that we scored more points in transition after missed shots than we did against the press. But, when one of our strengths is offensive rebounding, running and gunning would nullify that.
 

kyjeff1

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We're not going to get past the first round anyway. And while I understand what you're saying, we've had teams in the past that found success running the ball up the court even after made baskets. And, as I said, when you look at the WVU game, I'd argue that we scored more points in transition after missed shots than we did against the press. But, when one of our strengths is offensive rebounding, running and gunning would nullify that.
Yes, we scored more points in transition against West Virginia than against the press, there's no arguing that.
But what I am saying is, you can't just base your offense on transition baskets because you only get a few of those each game. You don't get to choose to get a transition bucket every play, those usually happen on live ball turnovers. Remember, the other team has a say in how the game is played, they aren't going to just let you jam the ball down their throat every play.
As far as the "losing on the first weekend" thing, that doesn't just apply to this year, that applies to every year. If you can't score in half court sets, you won't go anywhere in college basketball, no matter who you have on your team.
 
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CincyUKFan

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Yes, we scored more points in transition against West Virginia than against the press, there's no arguing that.
But what I am saying is, you can't just base your offense on transition baskets because you only get a few of those each game. You don't get to choose to get a transitionbucket every play, those usually happen on live ball turnovers. Remember, the other team has a say in how the game is played, they areare going to just let you jam the ball down their throat every play.
As far as the "losing in the first weekend" thing, thst doesn't just apply to this year, that applies to every year. If you can't score in half court sets, you won't go anywhere in college basketball no matter who you have on your team.
I agree with that.

And that spells trouble. Because, as the first half of this game proved again, we can be awfully bad in the half court.
 
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kyjeff1

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I agree with that.

And that spells trouble. Because, as the first half of this game proved again, we can be awfully bad in the half court.
Cal needs to find something different. He's been running this same tired offense since he got here and it's in need of an overhaul.
I would love to see some sort of a spread offense with more outside shooting to open up driving lanes. Teams do that to us all the time. Vanderbilt was kicking our asses the other day by doing that.
I know we hate Duke, but every year they have teams that score at a high rate, their defense is usually below par, but they always shoot well.
If we could combine Duke's O and UK's D we would have a great team.
 

clew84

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No true leader, no one willing to be the example. Chemistry also seems to be missing - selfish play. Each seems to play at the same lackadaisical level as the others.

And they all seem a similar type - drivers and cutters but no true shooters.

Such a strange mix of players on this team.
 

KyFaninNC

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Not very hard to figure out who trolls this board. Guess that's a tough task for you apparently.
Well, enlighten me, then. I think you throw out the word "troll" like Democrats throw out the word"racist" when you have no other facts that you can debate.
 

wildcatdon

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Cal needs to find something different. He's been running this same tired offense since he got here and it's in need of an overhaul.
I would love to see some sort of a spread offense with more outside shooting to open up driving lanes. Teams do that to us all the time. Vanderbilt was kicking our asses the other day by doing that.
I know we hate Duke, but every year they have teams that score at a high rate, their defense is usually below par, but they always shoot well.
If we could combine Duke's O and UK's D we would have a great team.
Great points agree totally. Hate this offense so bad.
 
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Elliott Tim

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After 23 games motivation shouldn't be an issue.
I agree. Some mature quicker than others. The one and done issue created by the NBA and players union is largely responsible for this monster. Why would most one and done's exert themselves knowing a serious injury could cost them millions?
Because most teams draft on potential, it's possible there's nothing to compel them to prove their worth. You no longer are required to earn your way into being drafted.
I hope Cal will perhaps learn a lesson that the players first approach may be coming back to bite him in the butt. I even think K will go a different direction if the same happens with this and next year's class. I don't care for K, but if this doesn't work ,he'll take a different approach.
I love Cal. We're MUCH better off than before he got here. I just hope he reinvents himself. I do get a kick when people think 8 million a year should guarantee championships. Championships are ,or should be, earned, not bought.
If the same rules to be draft eligible in college football applied to basketball, Cal might be the Nick Saban of basketball.
 

FrankUnderwood

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So, say this team is a letdown. Say we only get to S16/ round of 32. So what ? It’s been proven that more often than not we will be right back into the swing of things the following year.

Give Cal more than 2 years removed from a FF , and credit for his huge success the last 9 years as opposed to thinking we should fire him.
Some “fans” literally act like spoiled children. Grow up
 

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So, say this team is a letdown. Say we only get to S16/ round of 32. So what ? It’s been proven that more often than not we will be right back into the swing of things the following year.

Give Cal more than 2 years removed from a FF , and credit for his HUGE SUCCESS the last 9 years as opposed to thinking we should fire him.
Some “fans” literally act like spoiled children. Grow up

Resting on laurels. I’ve said it before and here it is again. Thirty plus NBA guys and one title. He needs the best players in the country to get it done and he’s simply not getting that caliber of players anymore. Unfortunately, this team is not very good.
 

SpensBRJ

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There are some good points here. What I saw in the WVU game was promising but we haven't followed that up. In that game we slashed put up some highly contested shots but our big crashed behind the slash. Success, then Shai also mixed in some kick outs. It worked.

These guys love to pound the ball, not sure how selfish they are but they are not good when passing and I think that is the issue. They don't see openings, the stand and wait.
 

Jazzycat

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No true leader, no one willing to be the example. Chemistry also seems to be missing - selfish play. Each seems to play at the same lackadaisical level as the others.

And they all seem a similar type - drivers and cutters but no true shooters.

Such a strange mix of players on this team.

Totally agree. No chemistry, no leadership and no effort...Calipari has time to fix and should do so. Hopefully, the players are listening.....
 

larry the cable guy

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well Cal is right - he doesn't have an answer for it

In November we play poorly, that's on the players
In February we play poorly, that's on coaching.

The only option to playing selfishly is sitting on the bench. Since it is most of the team that means Cal would be playing Brad and the rest of the walking and we would be getting killed. Can you imagine this board of that was happening?
 

Play some D

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Our coaching staff has everything so clogged up in the paint that it's so hard for Alexander & Green to dribble drive. The reason our offense worked in the 2nd half against West Virginia was Washingtin bruised his knee & didn't play. We went a lil smaller and play a faster pace. Teams aren't guarding PJ out on the perimeter. It's worse than when teams sagged off Brisco. PJ played 30 mins. 4 pts, 7 reb, no blocks, 1 assist. Cal says you have to fight to play. But that don't pertain to everyone. Richards plays much harder but only got 10 mins.
 
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irishcat1965

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And if anyone here said that, they'd be bombarded by pumpers with the troll label for days.

Now they can finally shut up because Cal said so.
He also said this team has more upside for March than any other team in the nation. Funny how that changes the overall tenor of his remarks.
 

KyFaninNC

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He also said this team has more upside for March than any other team in the nation. Funny how that changes the overall tenor of his remarks.
What would you expect him to say? He is saying the right things, but does he really believe it.
 

mg721

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I'm just pointing out what is a fact about life that you apparently comprehend. If you can't handle that, maybe you should stay in your lane and off the message boards.
Thats what message boards are for dummy. Opinions and discussion. When they put you in charge, then you can dictate who is here and who is not.
 
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Woodrow24

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Well, enlighten me, then. I think you throw out the word "troll" like Democrats throw out the word"racist" when you have no other facts that you can debate.
LOL Do you need me to tell you the definition of what a troll is? Facts mentioned in my post that you choose to ignore. Youngest team Cal has had, trolls raising hell after a loss, and irrational posters. All three mentioned are facts and two of them are common on any message board. Pretty interesting how you decided to start an argument over that and I think it's interesting the example you tried to use. I've never once said Cal is above criticism and their are some fair criticisms that some people give. It's also fair to say that their are some irrational criticisms posted on here as well. I personally think for any fan of another team, to come over to this board and pretend to be a UK fan is pathetic. If you can't understand or comprehend why I called them "low life trolls", that's your problem. I didn't say everyone that posts anything negative is a troll, that was just your way of putting your own spin on my post to start a weak argument.
 

KyFaninNC

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LOL Do you need me to tell you the definition of what a troll is? Facts mentioned in my post that you choose to ignore. Youngest team Cal has had, trolls raising hell after a loss, and irrational posters. All three mentioned are facts and two of them are common on any message board. Pretty interesting how you decided to start an argument over that and I think it's interesting the example you tried to use. I've never once said Cal is above criticism and their are some fair criticisms that some people give. It's also fair to say that their are some irrational criticisms posted on here as well. I personally think for any fan of another team, to come over to this board and pretend to be a UK fan is pathetic. If you can't understand or comprehend why I called them "low life trolls", that's your problem. I didn't say everyone that posts anything negative is a troll, that was just your way of putting your own spin on my post to start a weak argument.
Well, word your post better. Best thing to do with real trolls is ignore them. If no one responds to them, they will leave. But when you lump in ever critical post, you bring this upon yourself..
 
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shutzhund

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Cal needs to find something different. He's been running this same tired offense since he got here and it's in need of an overhaul.
I would love to see some sort of a spread offense with more outside shooting to open up driving lanes. Teams do that to us all the time. Vanderbilt was kicking our asses the other day by doing that.
I know we hate Duke, but every year they have teams that score at a high rate, their defense is usually below par, but they always shoot well.
If we could combine Duke's O and UK's D we would have a great team.


Good post but on the lighter side I don't believe Duke can score enough points to overcome our defense.:cry:
 

irishcat1965

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Well, word your post better. Best thing to do with real trolls is ignore them. If no one responds to them, they will leave. But when you lump in ever critical post, you bring this upon yourself..
What is the worst to me is UK fans who only show up after a loss and are nowhere to be found after a win. They are worse than trolls who are easy to identify.
 

Woodrow24

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Well, word your post better. Best thing to do with real trolls is ignore them. If no one responds to them, they will leave. But when you lump in ever critical post, you bring this upon yourslef.
Nah, your reading comprehension is the problem. No one else had their feelings hurt over my post but you.
 

kyjeff1

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Good post but on the lighter side I don't believe Duke can score enough points to overcome our defense.:cry:
We only scored 60 against Mizzouri, Duke will score more than 60 on our defense when our offense isn't helping our defense.
If this team is clicking on offense, it can beat anybody in the country. But those times when it's clicking are few and far between.
 
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KyFaninNC

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Nah, your reading comprehension is the problem. No one else had their feelings hurt over my post but you.
You must have mistaken me for someone that worries whether you hurt my feelings or not. You didn't hurt my feelings. Don't give yourself that much credit.
 

Woodrow24

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You must have mistaken me for someone that worries whether you hurt my feelings or not. You didn't hurt my feelings. Don't give yourself that much credit.
You misunderstood me, started an argument with a comparison that was unnecessary, and then tried to place blame on me for your misinterpretation. Sorry buddy if I struck a nerve on you when I called out people for being irrational and the trolls. Shocked a "fan" would get upset by me doing so.
 

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Diallo shouldn’t be getting more than 10 minutes a game. He can’t shoot and just tries to do his own thing. The problem is we only have three guards, so he has to see minutes. It’s obvious he has a pretty bad attitude problem. I wouldn’t waste a 2nd round pick on him, much less a first. He’s all athlete, no skill.