I have the answer. Put their asses on the bench and play the walk-ons if you have to
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Wrong again! Missouri played their best game of the season and we couldn't throw it in the ocean. If you've played any level of ball you should know this. Was I happy? Hell no! We have 6 losses and most didn't expect that at this stage. This team needs to learn unselfishness in a hurry to make a good run. If that happens and JV gets into 35 minute/game condition, we'll be fine. If this makes me a pumper, so be it.
Who was open for anyone to pass to? I mean serious. I don’t remember seeing that many guys open for them to get a decent shot off. Maybe it’s that the players aren’t open, ie... the scheme?
When your most complex offensive set is the coach yelling GOOOOOO!, what can you expect? Who is there to pass to when nobody moves in the half court? Cals offense is designed to showcase these future pros ISO skillls. So this is what you have.
There is no one on this team ready for the NBA
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They're not recruited to be ready for the NBA; rather because they are potentially draftable by the NBA after their freshman year.
If they can play basketball year 1 then so be it but let's not get our priorities confused.
Some seem to be terribly overrated coming out of HS
It didn't surprise me that we lost today. Youngest team Cal has had and they are going to struggle on the road. Its disappointing but I think the team will continue to improve. People need to calm down and stop letting the irrational and low life trolls bait them into bashing our staff and players. The SEC has improved a lot and we have our youngest team in many years.
Fellas it's not all about selfishness. There is some of that I see at times but it's more about the fact they just don't know how to play off others because they never had to. The ball was in their hands 90% of the time on high school and they built their habits trying to find a shot and a way to score with the ball in their hands because most of the time they could in HS.
In college you just can't do that without playing off others by moving the ball, or drive and kick, pick and roll qor give and go etc.
I pick on Cal a lot but in this case I do believe he is right when he says they are good kids and not the selfish type, they're just really uncomfortable and struggle playing without the ball. That's why they are such bad passers when they do try to move it. They're lack of feel for spacing and timing and angles and feel for the defense is REALLY BAD. I saw Shai (our point guard!) try to enter a pass from the top of the key to the left elbow with a defender denying topside!
So while I do see a little ME out there I think most of it is a real lack of feel for the game. And while Cal is lost for answers I think one is to blow up the idea of "positionless basketball" and start assigning and demanding they play their role with specific duties. Start by telling PJ he is to stay on the baseline and block. Then go down the list. And teach spacing spacing spacing
In college you just can't do that without playing off others by moving the ball, or drive and kick, pick and roll qor give and go etc.
I pick on Cal a lot but in this case I do believe he is right when he says they are good kids and not the selfish type, they're just really uncomfortable and struggle playing without the ball. That's why they are such bad passers when they do try to move it. They're lack of feel for spacing and timing and angles and feel for the defense is REALLY BAD. I saw Shai (our point guard!) try to enter a pass from the top of the key to the left elbow with a defender denying topside!
So while I do see a little ME out there I think most of it is a real lack of feel for the game. And while Cal is lost for answers I think one is to blow up the idea of "positionless basketball" and start assigning and demanding they play their role with specific duties. Start by telling PJ he is to stay on the baseline and block. Then go down the list. And teach spacing spacing spacing
I agree with you that we will get better. You don't play a game like we did vs. Louisville and VT and 2nd half vs. WVU and say this is a bad team. We just need to play consistent basketball in both halves. Our defense is getting better but our offense waits till 2nd half after we are down double digits to play better on offense. I also agree that we need to run more and press more. If we are hitting our shots in 1st half we win by double digits today. I still like the lineup of Green, SGA, Knox, PJ, and Vanderbilt. With the Harrison twins last year we waited till last 2 SEC games left and SEC Tourney before it clicked and made the run to the Final Four. We still have 8 games left in the SEC and many of the other teams in the NCAA are having same problem.
I bet there are a few people on this board that could take care of it. Be more like a Frank Martin at practice. I would have them scared of me that when they did not do what I told them they would run until their tongues were out. My college football coach would just look at you and you shook in you boots
This will be like this until we have a superstar we cant win with this kind of talent. Tubby got heat for far less this team as no iq and is soft. Wrose offense i've ever seen here. We are awful and Cal brings **** like this to Kentcky?
Can anybody tell us what Cal's offensive scheme is? I look and look for any resemblance of some type of set offense and I see none.
Guys, if you just gotta trash somebody, look at the AAU and high school coaches. They are the ones that taught fundamentals. You don’t unlearn in a year something you’ve been taught incorrectly or not at all over several years.
On another point, the NBA knows this well. They don’t recruit based on what you are doing. They are concerned with what they believe you can do.
On another point, the NBA knows this well. They don’t recruit based on what you are doing. They are concerned with what they believe you can do.
Who are these low life trolls? The ones that are pissed at how awful this team is playing?
Thank you, your logic doesn’t fit in with some agendas but I concur with you. Stop the panic people
I thought that the entire game like where is the ball.movement all one on one. Even Quade did it a ton
His rosters over the years have covered up his coaching ability. Now Duke, and other schools are beating him at the recruiting game for one, and done's. Time for coach to rethink his methods. This season is over. We're halfway through conference play, and they are still playing from behind in EVERY game.....That's not Kentucky basketball.
Putting myself in the players shoes here, I feel like they have to be somewhat frustrated too. I mean, who are they supposed to pass the ball to? There's no motion in our ddMo. Watch it, the only guy moving is the guy with the ball, nobody else is cutting or trying to get open. Remember how Murray used to run around like mad man trying to get open? Where is that with his team?
It's a very poor offensive design in my opinion. Cal needs to redesign it and find something that works for the team he has.
To me, all I see is isolation (one on one) offense, where you have to beat your man and that ends up turning into 1 guy trying to beat 4 defenders because nobody is moving.
We see this every year, some players, like Fox, Monk, Knight, Ulis, Murray etc… have the physical tools to pull it off, but this team doesn't.
Overhaul the offense Cal, do something that works for THIS team.
It's a very poor offensive design in my opinion. Cal needs to redesign it and find something that works for the team he has.
To me, all I see is isolation (one on one) offense, where you have to beat your man and that ends up turning into 1 guy trying to beat 4 defenders because nobody is moving.
We see this every year, some players, like Fox, Monk, Knight, Ulis, Murray etc… have the physical tools to pull it off, but this team doesn't.
Overhaul the offense Cal, do something that works for THIS team.
I am puzzled why coach always blames the players for this or that. How about some new offensive sets? The ones we run are too predictable and easy to stop. I almost want to be zoned so that will dummy down the defense we are playing against. Cal is definitely a defensive first coach...our offense is weak.
Best post I'VE SEEN IN A LOOOONG TIME!!!!! [thumb2]
Last season it was ( They need to STOP looking at their DRAFT STATUS )! Can I get an AMEN!!:fistbump:
Dribble Drive, right? That's the offense where you run isolation plays and give your superior athletes the opportunity to take their guys one-on-one.
The problem is, our guys consistently give up dribble drives, but are very underwhelming in isolation plays themselves.
I believe the guy in the broadcast booth went on and on about how bad we in when we run isolation. And Cal's offensive system revolves around isolation.
Not good!
We need to go back to running it up and the down the court. Try to score before the defense is set. That's what this team is equipped to do. Diallo is at his best in transition. Knox is at his best in transition. Green's game winner the other night was a great play in transition. We beat WVU, whether it was against the press or after a missed basket, because we got out in transition. How Cal doesn't understand that this, of all his teams, is one that has to attack before the defense gets set, is beyond me.
Thing is if they wanna go they gone. We will see who was me me after the tournament.
Washington is his biggest problem. He doesn't play hard and jacks 3's he shouldn't. Cal says these guys are someones child and he is responsible for them.
I say if they don't want to listen and play as hard as Vanderbilt, Gabriel and Jones, then they deserve to sit till they want to try hard. Knox could drive or post most of the time but refuses to play that way. He wants to shoot, shoot and shoot from the outside mainly. Diallo takes 3's he shouldn't and rarely passes the ball. Who is running this joint?
I said after the season started, this groupe will be VERY LUCKY to get past the first weekend of the BIG DANCE! My Son said I was CRAZY for thinking that! Cal will work it out, and it's the youngest team EVER? I'd love to have a dollar for everytime I have heard that, This is the youngest team in the country, and it's a work in progress, and the SAME OLD [poop] PILE I hear every year.......... [sick]
Problem is, teams don't let you just run it up and down the court like that.
West Virginia will, because that's their style, but you can't live like that in CBB. You have to be able to beat teams in the half court or you won't make it out of the first weekend in the NCAAT.