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By the way, we have seen this in College basketball before. Jarnell Stokes joined Tennessee in January and was playing 2 games after he was eligible. And contributing a lot. So it’s not batshit crazy to think a guy as good as Sharpe could step in and play.
I just found the article about Stokes:

Ranked among the top 25 prospects in the nation for 2012 by multiple recruiting services, Stokes signed with Tennessee on Dec. 23. He played in his first game, a 65-62 loss to the Wildcats on 1/16 Saturday, just five days after his first practice at Tennessee and a week after his 18th birthday.

Even with little knowledge of the playbook, the 6-foot-8, 250-pound power forward finished 4 of 5 from the field and had nine points and four rebounds in 17 minutes.

One practice in, and he's playing. I think fans would like to know when is SS going to start practicing with the team. Either he's part of this team or he's not.

I seem to recall we were in the running for Stokes, but perhaps he wanted someone to tell him to get ready to play asap.
 
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STL_Cat

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I would be okay with that.
But considering the NBA has already received the appropriate paperwork to clear him for this year’s draft, it’s not happening.
It’s not like some alien submitted the required documentation to the NBA 🙄
It is curious, why has anyone done the extra leg work to make him eligible for the draft if there’s no intention in entering it …
 

lexwildcat859

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Because I’ve never seen it happen before. In fact the argument you just made is the reason why so many people here say you HAVE to go ASAP. Because the sooner you go, the sooner you get that 2nd contract. The whole argument for going early is because the 2nd contract, not the 1st.
But it’s not about how soon u get a second contract it’s about whether you are prepared enough for the nba to be able to perform at a level to earn a substantial second contract that’s what they are saying. You can be drafted low, and still perform at a level to earn a max deal on your second contract and you can get drafted high and be out of the league by your 4th year
 

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But it’s not about how soon u get a second contract it’s about whether you are prepared enough for the nba to be able to perform at a level to earn a substantial second contract that’s what they are saying. You can be drafted low, and still perform at a level to earn a max deal on your second contract and you can get drafted high and be out of the league by your 4th year
Literally the FIRST time I’ve ever heard anyone position it this way. The first time. And there’s a reason for that. We’ll see if Sharpe completely breaks the mold. Don’t expect it. You’re either gullible or Erin Calipari.
 
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Y'all have to stop posting stuff without looking at context. If you don't you're just falling for clickbait.


“I have told his parents that I am not going to put him in a position where he hurts himself,” he reiterated Saturday. “I am not. And we’re going to do this, the process of this, and if he ends up playing this year because he’s capable of doing it and he can play, we’ll play him. But I’m not just shoving him in so we can win another game or stay closer. I’m not going to do that.
This kid has been playing ball non-stop since he was probably 8 or 9 years old. The kid played AAU ball as well as high school which required him to play multiple games in a single day (AAU). Are we to believe that this kid is in such bad shape that he can't give us 7 or 8 minutes per game until he satisfies whatever it is that Cal is looking for? This is bazar at the least and more likely straight up BS.
 
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lexwildcat859

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Literally the FIRST time I’ve ever heard anyone position it this way. The first time. And there’s a reason for that. We’ll see if Sharpe completely breaks the mold. Don’t expect it. You’re either gullible or Erin Calipari.
I’m just literally repeating what the trainer said in that one article from the other day, plus anyone that knows anything about the nba knows what I just said is true. Anthony Bennett was drafted number one overall, his second contract was for 2 years and 2 million dollars, devin booker was drafted 13th overall, his second contract was over 150 million dollars.
 

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Remember when we were all clamoring for the return of Jared Vanderbilt? This comment that Cal made is starting to clear my confusion on preparing ALL of our kids to prepare to play.

Let's put it bluntly so Cal can understand; we're probably not good enough to challenge for the title. We simply cannot go into the tournament hoping everyone is healthy enough.
 

STL_Cat

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Cause he's only been here a couple weeks? Most kids get all summer with the team to get ready to play at this level.
My only counter to this is Jarnell Stokes. And I say that because of people being treated like they’re batshit crazy to think a guy could be ready to go just a few weeks after joining the team. We’ve seen it happen before. And Stokes was very good almost instantly.
 
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But it’s not about how soon u get a second contract it’s about whether you are prepared enough for the nba to be able to perform at a level to earn a substantial second contract that’s what they are saying. You can be drafted low, and still perform at a level to earn a max deal on your second contract and you can get drafted high and be out of the league by your 4th year
Excuse me Meagan or is it Erin OR Brad??

Your Dad has NEVER allowed a top 6 pick to return to school. You KNOW this. Dejuan Wagner(you remember him playing for your Dad when you guys were kids right) is the PRIME example of WHY your Dad won't let Sharpe play for UK.

Come on, you KNOW it.
 

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Y'all have to stop posting stuff without looking at context. If you don't you're just falling for clickbait.


“I have told his parents that I am not going to put him in a position where he hurts himself,” he reiterated Saturday. “I am not. And we’re going to do this, the process of this, and if he ends up playing this year because he’s capable of doing it and he can play, we’ll play him. But I’m not just shoving him in so we can win another game or stay closer. I’m not going to do that.
He shouldn’t be in uniform if he’s not ready to play. It’s pointless. And cal with the injury comment my gosh this guy has a bag of excuses. Until cal comes out and says where gonna do what it takes to win I want him gone. Go to the nba and coach the guys you cater to man
 

STL_Cat

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I’m just literally repeating what the trainer said in that one article from the other day, plus anyone that knows anything about the nba knows what I just said is true. Anthony Bennett was drafted number one overall, his second contract was for 2 years and 2 million dollars, devin booker was drafted 13th overall, his second contract was over 150 million dollars.
Anthony Bennett was trash, it would have played out the same way regardless. I don’t know what point you think you just made. They both entered the draft as soon as they possibly could.
 
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Excuse me Meagan or is it Erin OR Brad??

Your Dad has NEVER allowed a top 6 pick to return to school. You KNOW this. Dejuan Wagner(you remember him playing for your Dad when you guys were kids right) is the PRIME example of WHY your Dad won't let Sharpe play for UK.

Come on, you KNOW it.
I’m not one of cals kids but if I was I’d be way too rich to give a **** what anyone says on this board lol…but back to your point. What cal ACTUALLY says is he doesn’t let kids come back unless they have a good reason. And it sounds like cal believes this focus on nba preparation and getting that second contract is a good enough reason to return even though sharpe is projected high
 

lexwildcat859

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Anthony Bennett was trash, it would have played out the same way regardless. I don’t know what point you think you just made. They both entered the draft as soon as they possibly could.
I’m making the point that you can be drafted high and still not prepared for the nba and out on your *** after the rookie contract, or you can be prepared and perform and make generational changing money. That’s what sharpe’s family wants, by all accounts it sounds like they are willing to sacrifice the nominal rookie contract if it means he is more prepared to earn the max contract later. What about this do you not understand?
 

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You have no data to support this. Just wild speculation with no information to back it up. That’s ok. Just pointing out the ********.
Sure I do! I have called this every step of the way. Just go look back at the Sharpe threads. Down to the fact he didn't even need to have actually graduated to be eligible for the draft. He just needed to show he had enough work completed before the start of the NBA season. I mentioned his camp, UK coaches and the NBA were all already aware of this. There is a reason I know so much! 😉
 

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Y'all have to stop posting stuff without looking at context. If you don't you're just falling for clickbait.


“I have told his parents that I am not going to put him in a position where he hurts himself,” he reiterated Saturday. “I am not. And we’re going to do this, the process of this, and if he ends up playing this year because he’s capable of doing it and he can play, we’ll play him. But I’m not just shoving him in so we can win another game or stay closer. I’m not going to do that.
And there is actually more.
 

STL_Cat

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The argument you’re making about Bennett actually goes the other way. He was smart to strike while the iron is hot. He probably never makes the kind of money he made if he played another year in college. He’s not the #1 pick the next year, and he’s still getting a trash 2nd contract because he was a trash player.
 
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I’m not one of cals kids but if I was I’d be way too rich to give a **** what anyone says on this board lol…but back to your point. What cal ACTUALLY says is he doesn’t let kids come back unless they have a good reason. And it sounds like cal believes this focus on nba preparation and getting that second contract is a good enough reason to return even though sharpe is projected high
You mean after 30+ years of coaching and advising kids on the NBA Draft, he's going to CHANGE his reasoning for this ONE kid??? NO WAY.

I have heard him say NUMEROUS times that NOT allowing Dejuan Wagner to return to Memphis was the BEST decision he has EVER made. This is why DJ is a LOCK for UK.

You know it. Your Dad is "Players First" above all else, even winning.
 

Blueaz

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I’m not saying put him in. I even said I wouldn’t. The choice of words on not playing him to just win a game is the point of the thread.
And it’s one snippet of a long quote. But let’s focus on that one thing, and not anything else that was said or the context
Let’s just get mad
 

kybassfan

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Sure I do! I have called this every step of the way. Just go look back at the Sharpe threads. Down to the fact he didn't even need to have actually graduated to be eligible for the draft. He just needed to show he had enough work completed before the start of the NBA season. I mentioned his camp, UK coaches and the NBA were all already aware of this. There is a reason I know so much! 😉
Right……. Straight jacket on aisle 6! Guys believes his own BS.
 
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My only counter to this is Jarnell Stokes. And I say that because of people being treated like they’re batshit crazy to think a guy could be ready to go just a few weeks after joining the team. We’ve seen it happen before. And Stokes was very good almost instantly.
You're absolutely right about Stokes, STL. He wasn't on the UT campus long before he was starting and, as you noted he was very good almost instantly. A great example. Just MHO, of course.
 

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Jarnell Stokes must be a GD prodigy.
I’m not going to spend the time digging right now, but I’m sure there is exponentially more players who reclassed and joined early that didn’t play for a while because they weren’t ready.
 

LmdCat

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I don’t know how some of you haven't figured out Sharpe isn't playing here. It's beyond obvious.
This is the very reason why I tolerate Cal as opposed to liking him. He thinks he is God's gift to college basketball and that UK's fanbase is so dumb that we will believe whatever BS he shovels our way. He has done this for so long, he probably believes his BS.
 
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I mean you can probably always come up with a player or a situation but I can't imagine that's the norm even for number 1 ranked 5 star recruits.

I still think he'll play eventually this season.

This discussion is going to happen tho every time we are losing in a game lol.
 
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