Cal not happy with draw

Wildcatfan66

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Seems kind of stacked, but thats what we get every year. For me as a UK fan, it doesn't bother me too much most years. If we are good enough to win it all, it doesn't really matter if we play AZ in the 2nd round, or elite 8, or final 4. If you are a team, that only gets a legitimate chance to win it all every 10 years, I can see the distress.

Seeding really only helps you in the first round. After that, anybody can beat anybody. Of course there can be upsets before that can help you out, but it's a crap shoot.

I kind of like being underrated and being the underdog. Just going to enjoy the ride.
 
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Cats_2010

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Would you rather have a path of

1.Arizona
2.Virginia
3.Cincinnati

Or

1.Auburn
2.Kansas
3.Duke

I’m sure you think the Midwest is the toughest region

We have a tough 2nd RD game assuming we win our first. Guess who else has a tough 2nd RD game, Arizona. Aside from that our draw is as good as you could hope for. Sorry but you are going to have to beat good teams to win.
 
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BBUK_anon

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Auburn is a freebie now since their big man is gone. KU will get exposed for the same reason. They'll go as far as Graham takes them. Duke has zero defensive identity, but they're probably the best of that group, and I'd rather play them than Zona and UVA.

Duke becoming known for their zone...
 

YouKay

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Forget about Arizona...according to kenpom.com, Davidson is the 41st best team in the country. Behind them are Arizona State, Kansas State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Syracuse. We need to focus on those guys first.

Davidson wouldn't have been in the tournament if they had lost today. The guy from the committee said they knocked Notre Dame out. And they only scored 58 points today. Shot 38%.
 
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What in the hell does everyone want..a 4 round bye and an automatic bid to the final four? What a bunch of freakin whinners. It is what is, let's go to work and see what happens..

I would much rather have played Gonzaga as the 4 seed. There is NO comparison between them and Zona. How in the world did they grade out higher?
 
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gojvc

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We have a tough 2nd RD game assuming we win our first. Guess who else has a tough 2nd RD game, Arizona. Aside from that our draw is as good as you could hope for. Sorry but you are going to have to beat good teams to win.
We play the number one overall seed in the regional semis (assuming we beat Arizona). How in the hell us that “as good as you could hope for”? Just a horrible take.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Sorry but I wanted no part of Virginia. They just owned the ACC and handled UNC. We first have to beat Zona as well. The only good thing is we will go all the way if we beat uVA but that’s a tall order. Hopefully both choke like usual.
 
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Xception

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We have a tough 2nd RD game assuming we win our first. Guess who else has a tough 2nd RD game, Arizona. Aside from that our draw is as good as you could hope for. Sorry but you are going to have to beat good teams to win.
You didn’t answer the question, sorry but you are disingenuous. Wtf does it matter if Arizona has a tough game, the question was which is more difficult since you thought it was absurd that I said we had the toughest region. Face it, it backfired on you. Think not then answer the touching question and if you take the Midwest route then tell me why it’s more difficult.
 

BigKari

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I love it. Cal knows exactly what is going on, some people on here call it a conspiracy theory, but Cal would know better than anybody. People have it out for us. Important people. But Cal wouldn't want it any other way, it just makes it that much sweeter for him.

By the way, Cal looks like he is in this for the long haul. I think he coaches for 7 or 8 more seasons.
 

FiveStarCat

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Seems kind of stacked, but thats what we get every year. For me as a UK fan, it doesn't bother me too much most years. If we are good enough to win it all, it doesn't really matter if we play AZ in the 2nd round, or elite 8, or final 4. If you are a team, that only gets a legitimate chance to win it all every 10 years, I can see the distress.

Seeding really only helps you in the first round. After that, anybody can beat anybody. Of course there can be upsets before that can help you out, but it's a crap shoot.

I kind of like being underrated and being the underdog. Just going to enjoy the ride.
This is the right attitude. I think deep down, Cal loves getting the tough draws. Just look at his run at Kentucky alone, we have cleaned up in games as underdogs in the tournament.
 

K_TIME

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UK's kryptonite is a tough halfcourt team. UVA is the best halfcourt team to me (maybe Nova as well). I personally don't think UVA is our best match up.

But you can't argue Xavier and KU are better than UVA for sure IMO.
 

Cats_2010

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We play the number one overall seed in the regional semis (assuming we beat Arizona). How in the hell us that “as good as you could hope for”? Just a horrible take.

Also a team that underperforms every NCAA.
 

JLK83

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Arizona in the second round is a BAD draw for the SEC Tournament champions.
 

jameslee32

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Forget about Arizona...according to kenpom.com, Davidson is the 41st best team in the country. Behind them are Arizona State, Kansas State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Syracuse. We need to focus on those guys first.
Parrish just said the line Thursday is UK -3. Young teams cant sleep on anyone but if they can win the SEC tourney, they can get out of the South also I think. You can't tell me the Pac12 or the ACC was better. Not this year.
 
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Cats_2010

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You didn’t answer the question, sorry but you are disingenuous. Wtf does it matter if Arizona has a tough game, the question was which is more difficult since you thought it was absurd that I said we had the toughest region. Face it, it backfired on you. Think not then answer the touching question and if you take the Midwest route then tell me why it’s more difficult.

I don’t think one bracket sticks out as the toughest or the easiest. They are about as spread out as they have been that I can recall. Some brackets like ours have tougher 4’s and 5’s while others have stronger 2’s and 3’s than we have. Lace em and play, quit your whining!!!
 
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Xception

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I don’t think one bracket sticks out as the toughest or the easiest. They are about as spread out as they have been that I can recall. Some brackets like ours have tougher 4’s and 5’s while others have stronger 2’s and 3’s than we have. Lace em and play, quit your whining!!!
Stop being a dummy, if they’re all about the same then you shouldn’t have reacted like a baby when I said we had the toughest region. Why would you act like that is ridiculous if they’re all the same? You’re full of ish and backtracking, still didn’t tell me which one you would pick because you were wrong.
 

Cats_2010

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Stop being a dummy, if they’re all about the same then you shouldn’t have reacted like a baby when I said we had the toughest region. Why would you act like that is ridiculous if they’re all the same? You’re full of ish and backtracking, still didn’t tell me which one you would pick because you were wrong.

It’s ridiculous because your stating we got the toughest region because we aren’t playing South Dakota state, Radford, St Bonny and Pico state to go the final four. I’m convinced you’d be crying about any draw we had, your a Nancy!!!
 

Xception

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It’s ridiculous because your stating we got the toughest region because we aren’t playing South Dakota state, Radford, St Bonny and Pico state to go the final four. I’m convinced you’d be crying about any draw we had, your a Nancy!!!
It’s you're, as in you’re a dumbass. I never stated anything like that but here’s what we do know. I posed a specific question and you’ve evaded it like the plague because it kills your argument. You’ve thrown all kinds of ish against the wall evading it too, only to look foolish. I’m sure you’ll continue to avoid it as you have no answer at all for it.
 
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Auburn is a freebie now since their big man is gone. KU will get exposed for the same reason. They'll go as far as Graham takes them. Duke has zero defensive identity, but they're probably the best of that group, and I'd rather play them than Zona and UVA.
I never want to play Duke simply for 8 on 5. Playing Duke, especially on the East coast is a nightmare. I still have nightmares about 2002 when we played Duke in i think East Rutherford NJ and we were up second half close to final and here came the whistles. Even Prince said " At some point we knew they would start getting calls"
 
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Cowtown Cat

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I never want to play Duke simply for 8 on 5. Playing Duke, especially on the East coast is a nightmare. I still have nightmares about 2002 when we played Duke in i think East Rutherford NJ and we were up second half close to final and here came the whistles. Even Prince said " At some point we knew they would start getting calls"
Great game. Was the officiating really that bad? Been a long time.
 

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Lol you are challenged if you look at that draw and say hell yea. The fact is, not only does UK never get a decently favorable draw, it's that even if it isn't the toughest path of the four, you bet your *** it's the second toughest. And also bet your *** that the matchups will usually be in our opponents favor......"Just so happens"

Por ejemplo - Kentucky probably has the hardest or second hardest path. Let's give it, it's the second hardest. Now look at the matchups.

Arizona - best player in the country. Just so happens, he's a big, where we have issues.

Virginia as the 1. - half court sound team who doesn't make many mistakes and plays great defense. The exact opposite of a good draw for UK. I said from day one and will stick to it, the two teams we did not need to see, we got. Ayton and Virginia, bad matchups.

Cal is trying to explain to the mentally slow that the ncaa is not a fan and the selection committee intentionally makes it tough on him. How many examples do you need? They give us final four games in the sweet 16 when we have guys like Anthony Davis and lock up a top overall seed. If we don't outright take a one seed they always seem to have us 2-3 seeds too low, like clockwork, and the media who doesn't care for UK will usually admit it.

Some people really don't understand the politics behind college basketball. They deny college basketball analyst are anti-UK, when it's a clear fact. They think the NCAA has nothing against Cal, when they do.

Look at the beneficiary of the theory. UNC and Duke? See any favoritism and selective enforcement? When the sports msmedia hides these issues because they all come from those schools, doesn't it make your brain work?

Wake the hell up if you are having trouble catching on, it's annoying talking to someone so clueless with opinions.
 

MbergCat

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It’s ridiculous because your stating we got the toughest region because we aren’t playing South Dakota state, Radford, St Bonny and Pico state to go the final four. I’m convinced you’d be crying about any draw we had, your a Nancy!!!
The complaint is simple. We should have been a 4. Arizona should have been a 3. No one here would be complaining if we had pretty much any other opponent in the round of 32. I'm fine with Virginia being our 1. But us having to play a formidable Arizona team with the best player in the country, in the round of 32, is 100% about ratings. It's a screw job for us, and a screw job for Arizona.
 

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Playing a team many considered to be the tournament favorite not too long ago in the 2nd round is NOT a good draw. Arizona is as talented as any team in the country and it would stink knowing that you could get beat out by a team that will eventually have to vacate the season.

Virginia easily won the regular season and tournament of a conference with 9 NCAA tournament teams. Just because they have lost some early tournament games in the past doesn't make them an easy out. They are a good team and it would take a near perfect game to beat them if we are lucky enough to get by Arizona.
 
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JoeBeeHall

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And a 10 loss team is playing as a 2 in Charlotte.
If Wofford can win in No car then anyone can I suppose.
 

behhpp

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We’re the only team that has to play three different teams who each won their conference regular season championship and their tournament championship.

Case closed - our draw sucked.
 
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Lol you are challenged if you look at that draw and say hell yea. The fact is, not only does UK never get a decently favorable draw, it's that even if it isn't the toughest path of the four, you bet your *** it's the second toughest. And also bet your *** that the matchups will usually be in our opponents favor......"Just so happens"

Por ejemplo - Kentucky probably has the hardest or second hardest path. Let's give it, it's the second hardest. Now look at the matchups.

Arizona - best player in the country. Just so happens, he's a big, where we have issues.

Virginia as the 1. - half court sound team who doesn't make many mistakes and plays great defense. The exact opposite of a good draw for UK. I said from day one and will stick to it, the two teams we did not need to see, we got. Ayton and Virginia, bad matchups.

Cal is trying to explain to the mentally slow that the ncaa is not a fan and the selection committee intentionally makes it tough on him. How many examples do you need? They give us final four games in the sweet 16 when we have guys like Anthony Davis and lock up a top overall seed. If we don't outright take a one seed they always seem to have us 2-3 seeds too low, like clockwork, and the media who doesn't care for UK will usually admit it.

Some people really don't understand the politics behind college basketball. They deny college basketball analyst are anti-UK, when it's a clear fact. They think the NCAA has nothing against Cal, when they do.

Look at the beneficiary of the theory. UNC and Duke? See any favoritism and selective enforcement? When the sports msmedia hides these issues because they all come from those schools, doesn't it make your brain work?

Wake the hell up if you are having trouble catching on, it's annoying talking to someone so clueless with opinions.

100% agree but switch to decaf brah.....:cool:
 
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Calipari is just throwing some red meat to our fan base. He knows the prevailing mood, and he is trying to get a little psychological edge. Understandable. But at the end of the day, it’s a pretty good bracket for us. There are no dominant teams this year. I’m not scared of any team in our bracket, but our fans have to face the fact that we aren’t the Warriors. UK was on a 4 game losing streak recently. After the 1st round, it’s possible that UK might be an underdog in any other games we play this month.
 

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Lol you are challenged if you look at that draw and say hell yea. The fact is, not only does UK never get a decently favorable draw, it's that even if it isn't the toughest path of the four, you bet your *** it's the second toughest. And also bet your *** that the matchups will usually be in our opponents favor......"Just so happens"

Por ejemplo - Kentucky probably has the hardest or second hardest path. Let's give it, it's the second hardest. Now look at the matchups.

Arizona - best player in the country. Just so happens, he's a big, where we have issues.

Virginia as the 1. - half court sound team who doesn't make many mistakes and plays great defense. The exact opposite of a good draw for UK. I said from day one and will stick to it, the two teams we did not need to see, we got. Ayton and Virginia, bad matchups.

Cal is trying to explain to the mentally slow that the ncaa is not a fan and the selection committee intentionally makes it tough on him. How many examples do you need? They give us final four games in the sweet 16 when we have guys like Anthony Davis and lock up a top overall seed. If we don't outright take a one seed they always seem to have us 2-3 seeds too low, like clockwork, and the media who doesn't care for UK will usually admit it.

Some people really don't understand the politics behind college basketball. They deny college basketball analyst are anti-UK, when it's a clear fact. They think the NCAA has nothing against Cal, when they do.

Look at the beneficiary of the theory. UNC and Duke? See any favoritism and selective enforcement? When the sports msmedia hides these issues because they all come from those schools, doesn't it make your brain work?

Wake the hell up if you are having trouble catching on, it's annoying talking to someone so clueless with opinions.


SO SO SO SPOT ON!!!!! Absolutely agree with every syllable! I've had it with these media types and Back room good ole boy back slapping deals. Quit insulting my intelligence!!! This selection process is an absolute farce. Is it UK that is hated or is it Cal? Or is it both? Did I use enough exclamation marks? Lol