Cal no longer needs the NBA

[CatScratch9]

He can now “change lives” and pull kids out of poverty and set them up for “generational wealth” via the NIL.

His philosophy towards the NBA should change now, right? Players First could take on an entire different meaning. Depending on the money at stake, convincing kids to stay might be more lucrative. Thoughts?

 

[cat888]

May change his method the difference in a Leader and a Boss a leader puts the company first by putting the workers first.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

He can now “change lives” and pull kids out of poverty and set them up for “generational wealth” via the NIL.

His philosophy towards the NBA should change now, right? Players First could take on an entire different meaning. Depending on the money at stake, convincing kids to stay might be more lucrative. Thoughts?

I think we are about to see UKs 3rd Dynasty to merge with the late 40s-early 50s and the 90s.

 

[Bungalow Bill]

The NIL is a short term thing that is really helpful for players that will never play professionally. For players that are first rounders, especially early/lottery picks, I don't think it means a lot because those players are looking at a career that can make them millions if not hundreds of millions. Even playing overseas as a career is pretty lucrative in some of those leagues. It's a good selling point for the majority of college players who will never play past college. We don't have many of those guys except at the end of the bench. For them it's got to be great. Get to wear the UK jersey and get paid. As far as changing Cal's philosophy I think he'll use it to our benefit whenever possible.

 

[kybassfan]

He can now “change lives” and pull kids out of poverty and set them up for “generational wealth” via the NIL.

His philosophy towards the NBA should change now, right? Players First could take on an entire different meaning. Depending on the money at stake, convincing kids to stay might be more lucrative. Thoughts?

Actually, he can’t. That would be a violation.

 

[NoDef]

Cal made the comment the other day that the NIL may allow more kids to stay that may not be ready for the NBA life. He said kids that are at the very top of the draft may still need to go, but those fringe kids or ones even lower in the lottery, may not have to go if they don't think they are ready.

You have to keep in mind that a lot of these kids have experienced generational poverty and taking care of their family is a necessity. They may of not wanted to leave, but who is willing to have your mom and dad live in a single wide or inner city apartment for another year when you could be a millionaire tomorrow and get them out of that? I don't want to stereotype and really I'm not, because we have thousands in Appalachia that live in the same conditions right here in Kentucky. If you have not lived it, its hard to judge. The NIL will allow them to provide while they are here.

 

[mebeblue2]

He can now “change lives” and pull kids out of poverty and set them up for “generational wealth” via the NIL.

His philosophy towards the NBA should change now, right? Players First could take on an entire different meaning. Depending on the money at stake, convincing kids to stay might be more lucrative. Thoughts?

so far i have not seen any NIL deals that have produced “generational wealth”
if you know of any please provide a link

 

[track42]

Cal made the comment the other day that the NIL may allow more kids to stay that may not be ready for the NBA life. He said kids that are at the very top of the draft may still need to go, but those fringe kids or ones even lower in the lottery, may not have to go if they don't think they are ready.

You have to keep in mind that a lot of these kids have experienced generational poverty and taking care of their family is a necessity. They may of not wanted to leave, but who is willing to have your mom and dad live in a single wide or inner city apartment for another year when you could be a millionaire tomorrow and get them out of that? I don't want go stereotype and really I'm not, because we have thousands in Appalachia that live in the same conditions right here in Kentucky. If you have not lived it, its hard to judge. The NIL will allow them to provide while they are here.

Kids like Sharpe at the top of the draft need to still go?

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Kids like Sharpe at the top of the draft need to still go?

Sharpe's case is a bit different. It's the "sure thing" if he goes now versus betting on himself that he can improve 7 to 10 spots in a year. The money is significantly better if he improves his stock, but I'm not sure I'd risk it in this day in age when war seems imminent and the economy is shaky. Go get paid now, and if the bottom drops out, even a few million could set him up for life.

 

[chroix]

Cal made the comment the other day that the NIL may allow more kids to stay that may not be ready for the NBA life. He said kids that are at the very top of the draft may still need to go, but those fringe kids or ones even lower in the lottery, may not have to go if they don't think they are ready.

You have to keep in mind that a lot of these kids have experienced generational poverty and taking care of their family is a necessity. They may of not wanted to leave, but who is willing to have your mom and dad live in a single wide or inner city apartment for another year when you could be a millionaire tomorrow and get them out of that? I don't want to stereotype and really I'm not, because we have thousands in Appalachia that live in the same conditions right here in Kentucky. If you have not lived it, its hard to judge. The NIL will allow them to provide while they are here.

This is it. It can allow the timeline for development to change by allowing the kids to provide for themselves and their families without having to commit to pro ball.

 

[UK90]

He can now “change lives” and pull kids out of poverty and set them up for “generational wealth” via the NIL.

That lingo was always just Cal’s marketing bunk anyways.

Those wealthy men Cal claims credit for still would’ve become wealthy regardless of what college coach they chose. In reality, they were the ones making Cal crazy rich, not the other way around.

 

[NoDef]

That lingo was always just Cal’s marketing bunk anyways.

Those wealthy men Cal’s claims credit for still would’ve become wealthy regardless of what college coach they chose. In reality, they were the ones making Cal crazy rich, not the other way around.

I have to disagree a little. Cal's players seem to make a faster transition than a lot of other programs. That equals more money down the road. Duke has comparable recruiting rankings but how is the comparison of pro success?

I found this from 2019.
The Wildcats are currently worth over $900 million in NBA contracts, over 25 percent more than No. 2 UCLA, who checked in at a little over $657 million and 34.4 percent more than North Carolina at No. 5 with $595 million. Duke is No. 3 at $636 million, followed by Texas at No. 4 with $617 million.

 

[Catsfan29]

That lingo was always just Cal’s marketing bunk anyways.

Those wealthy men Cal’s claims credit for still would’ve become wealthy regardless of what college coach they chose. In reality, they were the ones making Cal crazy rich, not the other way around.

The top tier players for sure bit I don't think that applies to all players.

Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Knight, Davis, MKG, Noel, KAT, Fox, Monk, Maxey.

Everyone else, who knows?

Booker is a star now but if he went elsewhere would he have jumped to the league after one year? Would he have been the star he is today if he didn't play at UK?

Ulis had a short time in the league but would he have made the NBA if he went elsewhere? Would he have been a poty candidate?

SGA wasn't expected to be a OAD player and now he's a future star. I don't think this happens if he didn't attend UK.

WCS played football...had to throw that in there. Would he have made thr league if it weren't for being at UK?

Harrelson wasn't making the league without Cal.

Orton likely wouldn't have been a 1st round pick if he played elsewhere.

Miller likely doesn't play in the league.

There are many more examples of kids going pro early or in general that likely wouldn't have happened if they played elsewhere

Players better off elsewhere?

Skal might be one of the few players who would've been better off playing somewhere else.

Kyle W. & Juzang also come to mind.

Harrison twins possibly but they're a toss up.

 

[ruppsrunt1]

The cal EGO will force him to continue HIS need to promote HIS nba players.

his EGO will prevent an end to moving players into the pros before some want to.

rr

 

[UK90]

I found this from 2019.
The Wildcats are currently worth over $900 million in NBA contracts, over 25 percent more than No. 2 UCLA, who checked in at a little over $657 million and 34.4 percent more than North Carolina at No. 5 with $595 million. Duke is No. 3 at $636 million, followed by Texas at No. 4 with $617 million.

Well, that’s not surprising at all if you look at our unbelievable recruiting run between 2009 to 2015, by far the greatest recruiting run in the history of the sport. And those are the guys who were in the NBA in 2019.

But that’s not because of what Cal did after they got here. He just landed by far the most recruits who were destined for the NBA regardless of where they went. Guys like Wall and AD were already projected the No. 1 pick out of HS, Cal didn’t make it happen, it would’ve happened anyways.

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[kyjeff1]

Cal never needed the NBA, he just wanted it.

 

[UK90]

Everyone else, who knows?

Booker is a star now but if he went elsewhere would he have jumped to the league after one year? Would he have been the star he is today if he didn't play at UK?

Ulis had a short time in the league but would he have made the NBA if he went elsewhere? Would he have been a poty candidate?

SGA wasn't expected to be a OAD player and now he's a future star. I don't think this happens if he didn't attend UK.

WCS played football...had to throw that in there. Would he have made thr league if it weren't for being at UK?

Harrelson wasn't making the league without Cal.

Every school has those cases of guys who exceed expectations. Dwyane Wade and Victor Oladipo were unknown low rated recruits who became NBA All-Stars, does that mean Tom Crean is a genius at player development?

And if we’re gonna give Cal credit for those guys, shouldn’t we detract it for all those five stars who saw their stock crash while here (See BJ Boston, EJ Montgomery, Ashton Hagans, Marcus Lee, Khalil Whitney, Devin Askew, Alex Poythress, Skal Labissiere, Dakari Johnson, Hami Diallo, etc.). It cuts both ways.

Most players who exceed expectations would’ve done so regardless of where they went. Same goes for most players who are disappointments. The coaches claim and get way too much undeserved credit for it.

 

[NoDef]

Well, that’s not surprising at all if you look at our outrageous unbelievable recruiting run between 2009 to 2015, by far the greatest recruiting run in the history of the sport. And those are the guys who were in the NBA in 2019.

But that’s not because of what Cal did after they got here. He just landed way way more recruits who were destined for the NBA regardless than any other coach. Guys like Wall and AD were already projected the No. 1 pick out of HS, Cal didn’t make it happen, it would’ve happened anyways.

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Jamal Murray, SGA, Tyler Herro, Quickley, Bam, Fox , Maxey etc....says we have put some pretty good guys in the league after that.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Totally jmo but I think it's pretty clear cal was basically blackballed from the NBA by LeBron/Wes.

I think cal agreed to take that cavs job after the randle season. I think rex was right about the move just wrong about the team. After losing that game, he had so many coming back and knew he had a legit shot at going undefeated so he backed out.

Think about it. Since that season there's been a rift with Nike, no more chummy pics or social media interactions with LeBron, no more Wes or talk of him. And no more legit rumors of NBA interest.

 

[Catsfan29]

The cal EGO will force him to continue HIS need to promote HIS nba players.

his EGO will prevent an end to moving players into the pros before some want to.

rr

So you don't think Cal should promote UK players in the NBA?

How is this beneficial to the program?

 

[CatScratch9]

I think there has to be a sweet spot here, and I believe it COULD be advantageous for UK. That sweet spot being those fringe first-round guys that typically leave and frustrate us all to no end potentially coming back because NIL money is equal or more to what they would make their first year in the league. It’s basically a no lose situation for them to return.

Now, instead of Cal saying “hey, you have to make the decision that’s best for you and your family” (typically knowing that they’ll choose to leave, debatable I know) he can say with certainty and confidence “you should 100% come back” because the financial side of it is no longer a factor. Will Cal do that?

 

[Tim Higgins]

Calipari would love to have players stay if it made sense for them. The problem is, alot of times staying here doesn’t make sense for the player (who is a human with a family and not some toy in your collection).

So maybe it can work out to have more of them stay now

 

[tls]

Sharpe's case is a bit different. It's the "sure thing" if he goes now versus betting on himself that he can improve 7 to 10 spots in a year. The money is significantly better if he improves his stock, but I'm not sure I'd risk it in this day in age when war seems imminent and the economy is shaky. Go get paid now, and if the bottom drops out, even a few million could set him up for life.

War seems imminent. Lol

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

War seems imminent. Lol

Russia/Ukraine.

China/Taiwan.

Have you been in a coma for the last few months?