2014, we were the 8 seed, played #1 overall seed Witchita State, then defending national champions Louisville, then Michigan fresh off their runner up finish. Where do y'all get this stuff from?
Cal giving Mitch credit..
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I love how people praise Cal for how he talks about the bad seeds, locations, etc., but when he talks about how our AD has zero role in seeding UK and how Cal thinks he's done a great job, people all of a sudden don't believe what Cal says.
We may have the most knowledgeable fans but at the same time we have to have the dumbest fans in the country.
We were also an 8 Seed. Got the weakest number 1 seed and was a bubble team as the SEC tournament began that year. Oy vey. The only comparable to these last 2 draws was 2011. Back to back years of bad draws
I live around Knoxville. I can't say I ever hear from the Tennessee athletic director about anything other than new hires, bad pr, or new facilities. So, it's not like Mitch is doing something different. I imagine few athletic directors speak out against officiating. It's just not a common thing as you seem to think it is.
What’s your point? When Mitch is in the room, you think he’s the only one in the room? There are many folks in on these seedlings. What’s he supposed to go? Go Chuck Norris on the rest of them if he doesn’t agree?
Every year some teams get into the tournament that will help CBS' ratings and assist in creating 'storylines' for them to promote. This year it is Oklahoma and Trae Young. No way they should have got in over OK. State. But, Trae Young vs. Dook is a better 'story' and so it happened.
Don't tell me the selection committee is above reproach and does everything exactly by the book. There are agendas in there just like everywhere else in the world.
Don't tell me the selection committee is above reproach and does everything exactly by the book. There are agendas in there just like everywhere else in the world.
You're right and the OK/Duke example is spot on. Yet the committee chair went on CBS last week and went out of his way to deny they went with storylines. Don't piss on my boots and tell me it's raining; it all comes back to ratings and money.
I'm consistent, I believe little if anything Cal or any other coach says, coachspeak, a language all its own
When it comes to Barnhart, there's a Duke/UL hate level that goes crazy.
Lee Todd stated flatly that Todd nixed the first go round with Calipari.
Calipari states flatly Mitch had nothing to do with the seeding.
All lies. Everything has to be Barnharts fault.
It's gotten to the stupid level.
Lee Todd stated flatly that Todd nixed the first go round with Calipari.
Calipari states flatly Mitch had nothing to do with the seeding.
All lies. Everything has to be Barnharts fault.
It's gotten to the stupid level.
Whats so hard to understand about Mitch being in the room discussing what seed and placement teams like Arizona got?
Interesting because Cal also said Vando's injury was day to day......... and now its going to be a 2 week injury at least
Point is.... Cal tells white lies
UK fans want UKAD to pull strings with the committee to get a better seed, better location and easier match-ups.
Imagine, if you will, the nuclear meltdown that would occur amongst UK fans if word got out that any other AD on the committee pulled strings to get their team a better seed, better location, or easier match-ups. They'd all march to NCAA HQ carrying torches and pitch forks.
Imagine, if you will, the nuclear meltdown that would occur amongst UK fans if word got out that any other AD on the committee pulled strings to get their team a better seed, better location, or easier match-ups. They'd all march to NCAA HQ carrying torches and pitch forks.
These people are special, they will never get it no matter how many times it's explained to them.
The cognitive dissonance here is astounding. I guess it comes with the territory of having such a large fan base. It's just easier to project and vent than it is to sit calmly and observe the facts.
Yes they do. But some posters can’t get it thru their thick heads. Anytime UK is being discussed he leaves the room.
I absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt believe Mitch had nothing to do with the seeding. I believe we could have sent the team manager instead of Barney
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My point is the 2018 NCAA Tournament Selection Committee seeded a team that has absolutely no reason being seeded the 10th overall team in this year's tournament and a #3 seed when there isn't one poll or metric stating they are one of the top 12 teams. Since Mitch Barnhart was part of the Selection Committee, a simple question on how Texas Tech received the 10th overall seeding should be pretty easy to answer.
From your response, you must have some inside knowledge that Mitch was against seeding Texas Tech the #10 overall seed. How do you know?
but he is probably allowed to stay in the room while the other 60 or so schools are discussed...at least I would assume it works like that
How many votes does Mitch Barnhart have?
How many are on the committee?
Does the SELECTION committee also do the SEEDING?
Did Mitch vote NO on U6?
Did Mitch have a big say on Duke getting an unusually tougher bracket?
Apparently, if Arizona is the worst 4, UK is the best 5.....So did Mitch insist UK
was really the number 17 team in the nation rather than the last poll's 28????
Let's go ahead and slam away but let's have the right questions first.
How many are on the committee?
Does the SELECTION committee also do the SEEDING?
Did Mitch vote NO on U6?
Did Mitch have a big say on Duke getting an unusually tougher bracket?
Apparently, if Arizona is the worst 4, UK is the best 5.....So did Mitch insist UK
was really the number 17 team in the nation rather than the last poll's 28????
Let's go ahead and slam away but let's have the right questions first.
Once again, do you think we got a fair draw last year? If like 99.9% of the base, you would answer no, then Mitch would disagree with you. Mitch said they did a good job and it was a fair draw for us last year.
So at BEST, hes really out of touch. At worst, well just read the thread.
Yep but there are lots of folks on the committee. A lone voice can only do so much.
No, that was not my point at all. I’m saying if he or any other members had been against it but the bulk of the committee members had been for that seed, what do you expect? A fist fight? Tech is where they are because that committee put them there. Not Mitch, alone.
You imply that you have inside knowledge that he was in favor of Tech’s seeding. Fact is, we have no idea what he his opinion is except the members likely all publicly support the committee decision regardless of what their personal opinion might be.
Have almost none of you EVER served on any committee? It’s not the biggest baseball bat wins. If you want a scape goat to make yourself feel good, then I guess Barnhart is good as any. That said, only a fool would think one guy is going in there and revolutionize that SCREWED up process they have.
You want to know how those seedings and pairings are done, follow the money and TV ratings trail. Bashing Barnhart is just stupid.
Wise up. You think any of those committees members is going to come out of there with a significant disagreement? He’s supporting the party line. Do anything else and don’t get invited back.
The funniest part of this video is how long it takes for the media guys to figure out Cal is not asking them questions to get answers, he's asking facetiously every time, yet they keep answering him to try and help him. Hilarious.
I believe there are 34 games they have to seed. Kentucky is just 1 of those. That means he is in the room for 97% of the bracket being discussed. Even if he has to leave because of discussions about our 2nd or 3rd round potential opponents, he is still in there a substantial amount of time. He either has 0 power in there to point out that the brackets are jacked up or he doesn't say anything at all. He needs to discuss with the rest of the committee to drop all of the stupid geography crap for the first 2 rounds. That is what is screwing up the bracket every year. It isn't like the opening rounds sell very well as it is.
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UK has been getting the shaft a lot longer then just the past two years. Can't blame Mitch for that. It has always been Us vs all them for years. We've known for years we were going to get the tuffest draw, while duke hasn't left the state of NC for the first round, and play the worst teams to make the tournament year in and year out. (and losing to them too)
Where did I imply Mitch was in favor of Texas Tech's seed? Where was I bashing Mitch? My original post was to ask Mitch if he was in the room when they mis-seeded Texas Tech. If so, how can a team be seeded 10th overall and not have one poll or metric that confirms the seed.
ok Mitch has to leave the room and he and we accept what ever they give us and just say ok. But if that is the case and as 100's of people have said over the years Duke got another easy bracket (maybe not this year) so how is it year after year they get that kind of bracket. Do all the other AD's give them an easy bracket or what kind of deal are going on. Maybe we needs Dukes AD