By the numbers

[HagginHall1999]

Oh **** ... my bad. That's a facepalm for me. I've heard this past season referred to as the "COVID year" so many times now I forget the season before was the tourney cancelling COVID year. Thanks for the clarification, makes perfect sense.

Nah, I fixed it...could see how you could mix that up.

I am willing to give him a pass as I've stated before not that I in anyway think it was acceptable I just think the restrictions put on teams last year hurt UK/Duke more than anyone. That is his own doing with roster turnover (no one could predict whatever the hell we are in now) but he took a goose egg for last season on my research.

 

[STL_Cat]

Nah, I fixed it...could see how you could mix that up.

I am willing to give him a pass as I've stated before not that I in anyway think it was acceptable I just think the restrictions put on teams last year hurt UK/Duke more than anyone. That is his own doing with roster turnover (no one could predict whatever the hell we are in now) but he took a goose egg for last season on my research.

All fair. Nicely done, this is a good thread. Not that you need my approval. lol

 

[HagginHall1999]

All fair. Nicely done, this is a good thread. Not that you need my approval. lol

Appreciate it.

 

[yoshukai]

I did a quick little exercise on all of our coaches since Rupp. Basically assigned points as follows:

0- no tournament
1- first round
2- second round
3- SS
4- EE
5- FF
6- Runner up
7- NC

Didn't hold it against Pitino for probation, Cal for COVID year ('19-'20 no tourney)...also no way to factor in condition of program when the coach took over. Lastly, field didn't expand to 64 until 1985 but didn't hold against Hall or as a plus for him...if you didn't make tourney you got 0 points for the season.

Here are the scores.

4. Hall- 39/13 years= 3, avg SS

5. Sutton-8/4 years= 2, avg second round

1. Pitino- 28/6 years= 4.66, avg EE bordering FF

3. Tubby- 33/10 years= 3.3, avg SS

6. BCG- lol

2. Cal- 40/11 years= 3.63 avg SS bordering EE

The argument for Pitino over Cal or vice versa has been back and forth for me over the years...Cal has some work to do now. The COVID year hurt but he's done himself no favors since 2016. For the most part it shook out about how I would have thought but per the rankings based off this data... I would only flip Hall over Tubby.

1. Rupp
2. Pitino
3. Cal
4. Tubby
5. Hall
6. Sutton
7. BCG

How do you rank our coaches?

I would rank Hall above Tubby but everything else looks right. Hall had 1 championship, 2 runner ups and 3 final fours. Tubby took a team that Pitino built, and did an EXCELLENT job of coaching them to the championship.

 

[KyFaninNC]

I should have clarified. I threw out '19-'20. We couldn't play in the tournament because there wasn't one....so he didn't get a 0 for that year, it was just tossed out similar to Pitino (Sutton) probation years He got a 0 for last year both literally/figuratively.

I will say that probably hurt Cal losing the tourney for '20. Some will disagree but that team was built for a tourney- jmho.

With or without Hagans? Not sure I can agree with you on that.

 

[HagginHall1999]

With or without Hagans? Not sure I can agree with you on that.

With. We will never know and you are correct that was an issue but that team had intangibles that I liked. A big who could score. 3 pt shooters and daggers at the foul line.

It's a moot point now but I think they would have been a tough out in NCAA.