Buh?
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Talk about starting rumors.
And now with this thread and because people believe everything on the internet is true, it will be taken as fact.
The answer is no to your question.
And now with this thread and because people believe everything on the internet is true, it will be taken as fact.
The answer is no to your question.
If that's what it takes to win, he can do it all year. Keep him as DC and get a new HC.
We have several eye witnesses saying they watched Ash take the defensive chart from Buh at the start of the second quarter and never return it.
Buh has failed at every stop in his coaching career. It is unrealistic to think that he’ll give RU a schematic advantage.
Ash is an example of the Peter Principle. He’s a competent DC- not so much a HC.
Ash is an example of the Peter Principle. He’s a competent DC- not so much a HC.
Buh signed a two year deal worth $1.075 million dollars. If what you’re saying is true, then... wow.
I don't know if the rumor is true or not...but regardless coaches in general really need to have the guts (and frankly sense) to be willing to look outside their bubbles of contacts, friends, etc...
It's sensible and there's nothing wrong with using your past associations, co workers, etc. just as a pool to call upon as with any profession but if someone hasn't shown the acumen in their history why would you call upon them just because you know them. Gundy is good like that...willing to go outside his bubble for coaches from time to time. Was just reading about Norvell and Memphis' poor defense and he hired Adam Fuller from Marshall who he'd never met or coached with before and was doing a solid job at Marshall...only 1 game but nice job against Ole Miss and Rich Rod's offense yesterday. Cast a wide net...friends, contacts and beyond and pick the one with the best acumen and work history available.
It's sensible and there's nothing wrong with using your past associations, co workers, etc. just as a pool to call upon as with any profession but if someone hasn't shown the acumen in their history why would you call upon them just because you know them. Gundy is good like that...willing to go outside his bubble for coaches from time to time. Was just reading about Norvell and Memphis' poor defense and he hired Adam Fuller from Marshall who he'd never met or coached with before and was doing a solid job at Marshall...only 1 game but nice job against Ole Miss and Rich Rod's offense yesterday. Cast a wide net...friends, contacts and beyond and pick the one with the best acumen and work history available.
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Not sure about this but the issues on the first 21 pts were not all on the D schemetically. The 3rd TD was a schematic issue becausebghey spread our D backs and our D line was lined up outside of the guards leaving one LB to be blocked by 2 OL on the draw play. Lunor had dropped in coverage but was way outside and almost made a play. Alignment was an issue there for sure.
The first drive was 2 penalties. Face mask was a bad call from the replays but whatever: then we throw a pick and they run overload on us and our corner missed a tackle. That play the D had just been on the field for a long drive extended by 2 penalties and then we throw a bad pick into triple coverage.
I’m not ready to blame Buh for any of the early start but if Ash wants to take over I’m ok with that after last year.
The first drive was 2 penalties. Face mask was a bad call from the replays but whatever: then we throw a pick and they run overload on us and our corner missed a tackle. That play the D had just been on the field for a long drive extended by 2 penalties and then we throw a bad pick into triple coverage.
I’m not ready to blame Buh for any of the early start but if Ash wants to take over I’m ok with that after last year.
As someone watching on TV, there were multiple camera shots when the RU defense was on the field of Buh. In the 2nd and 3rd quarters Ash was standing so close to him their elbows were practically rubbing. I don’t know if he took over but from what I saw on TV it didn’t look like he was letting Buh lead the D. Based on the results, I am fine with that.
Heck, if the D is better I don’t care if he wants to take over the waterboy’s job. I only care about results.
Bye
(It’s the only correct response)
Although we would have accepted a meme or .gif...
(It’s the only correct response)
Although we would have accepted a meme or .gif...
Ash took over the D at the end of last year and they performed well as a unit. He needs to do the same this year.
Bye
(It’s the only correct response)
Although we would have accepted a meme or .gif...
Agree. Honestly, don't know why he even bothered hiring a DC this year. Take control, mold the defense, then bring in someone in 2020 if he's still here.
In an offseason interview Ash said it’s not ideal for a HC to also be acting DC. I don’t care. If he has to stick his arms up Buh’s arse and puppet his mouth to get the most out of this D, then he’s has got to do it.
I don't know who was calling the plays but it seemed the UMass scheme of playing fast and speeding up the tempo caught the defense off guard - leading to at least 1 TO because we were trying to substitute.
If only that secret information had leaked out somewhere....
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ru-running-more-spread-o.171318/#post-3964360
If only that secret information had leaked out somewhere....
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ru-running-more-spread-o.171318/#post-3964360
I want Coach Ash to know what he’s good at be good at it.
If he does nothing but handle discipline and logistics, but takes over the D I’m good with it.
I heard a story from Brian Billick:
Basically he said, you want your OC/DC to wake up in the middle of the night and have one worry. One thing they are constantly thinking about.
If you are HC/DC, it complicates that.
Obviously, the HC/OC has become a normal occurrence - especially in college.
Ash admitted in preseason he would stay involved with defense. Buh’s value is teaching on fundamentals and techniques Ash wants. He is not a strong schematic person based on prior stops.
Mike Leach Lincoln Riley come to mind. Malzahn back in the saddle calling plays as HC after a couple years off. I wanna say Gary Patterson calls the D for TCU but I’m not a 100 percent sure of that.
Secondly, nothing wrong with delegating duties but make sure you hire good people not just someone who is a friend or co worker from the past with a not so good a track record.
OK here's what my group saw. A little background, we sit 15 rows behind the defensive sitting area so we're close and have a great view just over the players. We are a group of 6 who all played football some in college, one at Rutgers and some are now coaches. Are we experts on the game, no. Do we have a lot of knowledge between us I'd like to think so. Pregame we identify each coach. Once a play is complete all eyes go to the coaching staff to see interaction. We don't chit chat about world politics between plays or who's going to get little Johnny dip n dots. Rather discuss football.
After the third TD. A heated exchange happened between Ash and Buh. Myself and another in the group saw this.(we thought you guys would see it on TV and thought there would be a big discussion here but there wasn't) I don't know anything about a play card. Next defensive series, now I didn't see this but others in our group did. When the D was looking to the sideline at Buh for the call he pointed to Ash who proceeded to make the call. At this point our D became much more aggressive. After this the D continued to look at Ash for the call. Buh was still in communication with upstairs but at this point was not motioning toward the D any longer. So if he was yelling to them you would have seen the body language. You could see it from Ash. There's no other way to communicate to them as we don't have a guy miked up and he's not doing it through telepathy. Ash commanded every defensive huddle at this point. Buh took a back seat during these. So take this information how you want, it's just what we observed. All observations led us to believe Ash had taken control of the D.
After the third TD. A heated exchange happened between Ash and Buh. Myself and another in the group saw this.(we thought you guys would see it on TV and thought there would be a big discussion here but there wasn't) I don't know anything about a play card. Next defensive series, now I didn't see this but others in our group did. When the D was looking to the sideline at Buh for the call he pointed to Ash who proceeded to make the call. At this point our D became much more aggressive. After this the D continued to look at Ash for the call. Buh was still in communication with upstairs but at this point was not motioning toward the D any longer. So if he was yelling to them you would have seen the body language. You could see it from Ash. There's no other way to communicate to them as we don't have a guy miked up and he's not doing it through telepathy. Ash commanded every defensive huddle at this point. Buh took a back seat during these. So take this information how you want, it's just what we observed. All observations led us to believe Ash had taken control of the D.
I wonder why they went away from the no huddle up-tempo game? They didn't go back to it until they switched in Brito as QB.
He didn’t have a great rep with the Cal base either. Good techniques teacher, but maybe not strong schematically. May be exact reason Ash brought him here. Get players fundamentally solid and he (Ash) can help scheme to have Buh have it executed. Of course, don’t know if that is it and would be fair to wait a couple of games to see how it plays out.
Ok, two things:
(1) Who the eff gets little Johnny his dip n dots then? What kind of fathers are you?
(2) If this is what happened, thank god Ash didn't wait 'til six games were done to take over again. Listen, there are plenty of people here who think Ash is worthless, but there's no way you can do what the defense did at Wisconsin and Ohio State (give him a break on the one year at Arky) without being good at that job. If that's what he has to do to get this band of misfits functioning, then that's what he's got to do. It might get a little toxic, but Buh can leave if he wants to.
Ash should know by now it's not ideal to get *** kickings every week as well. When he was heavily involved with the D last year it was encouraging. If I'm Ash, I'm the D coordinator this year. I listened to Buh in his presser the other day, didn't get a warm and fuzzy.
Little Johnny is now old enough to get his own dip n dots. His dad chucks him a $10 spot and told go yourself, God gave you two good arms and legs.
Like I said these are just observations we made as we have a bird's eye view of this and many don't or don't look for it. We see it as the game within the game. We came to a conclusion, others can draw their own conclusions from the information I provided. Hell they can say maybe Buh was pointing to the water boy as he was thirsty and not Ash. But it didn't seem that way to us.
Another observation was the interaction between Ash and Okruch. Right before a third down play on D Ash went over and talked to Okruch. He must have wanted to set up for a potential fake punt. The punt return team started sending out the wrong personnel and was late getting on the field. This is the punt where we lined 9 off the ball. Ash went over and really laid into him. Ash was pretty pissed off this game. One thing is he kind of let's McNulty do his thing. But special teams and D. He was all over top of those.
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Saw that post after I posted. May be desperation but good for Ash for putting his foot down and doing what those guys saw him do. I'm not a Greg Guy but the HC/DC thing has been done before and if this is how it has to be, so be it. Maybe they improve and get rolling earlier this season than in 2018.
