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itseasyas1-2-3

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Just stop already. All the internet has done is allow snake oil salemen to spread their crap to a bigger audience. In the old days they would eventually get run out of town once everyone figured out the scam. Now we have millions of geniuses out there who are experts at things that take years to try and understand. Every non-clinician/researcher who thinks you know anything about Medicine/vaccines—please knock on the pilot’s door during your next flight and tell him/her how you know best how to fly a plane because you read Twitter posts from ‘aviation insiders’ who really know what’s going on…..
Why do you think the airline industry is a complete mess? They can't get enough pilots and crew to fly planes.

You don't have to be a genius to figure this **** out doc. Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. During the whole run up and beyond, they did a ton of damage to people.

I already heard enough your crap the first go 'round.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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The vaccine never did work. Please supply data showing it did.

The boosters were only tested on mice, no humans. https://nypost.com/2022/08/28/lates...be-released-before-human-testing-is-complete/

Or this one about countries who paused vaccines because of heart issues https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-europe-moderna-idUSL1N2RE22K

Answer these questions:
Why won't they release what is in the vaccines?
Why weren't treatment methods explored for covid and properly tested. Don't tell me ivermectin was clinically tested because it was not but look now. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Or that the vaccine never did prevent spread of the virus nor was it affective against the virus because it changed too rapidly which they already knew. https://www.michigancapitolconfiden...-vaccine-was-never-meant-to-stop-transmission

How can any reasonable person not see what is going on.
Way too much good, proven data here. Why do people think Pfizer wanted to bury the ingredients for 75 years?
If the concoction was good and intended for good, they would have gladly released it for unbiased, un-paid off medical experts to analyze.
 

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Since the COVID-19 pandemic began, heart attack deaths across all age groups have become more common in the U.S., according to a September 2022 study by Cedars Sinai hospital in Los Angeles.

The age group hit the hardest? People between 25 and 44, who saw a 29.9% relative increase in heart attack deaths over the first two years of the pandemic (which means the actual number of heart attack deaths were almost 30% higher than the predicted number).
 

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Since the COVID-19 pandemic began, heart attack deaths across all age groups have become more common in the U.S., according to a September 2022 study by Cedars Sinai hospital in Los Angeles.

The age group hit the hardest? People between 25 and 44, who saw a 29.9% relative increase in heart attack deaths over the first two years of the pandemic (which means the actual number of heart attack deaths were almost 30% higher than the predicted number).
today show

LMAO

as my nurse wife said this morning: "they're saying healthy people can have heart attacks now?"

it's a joke and you're the punchline, apartment dweller
 

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To be fair it's small amount that will tie the Vax to anything. Hell I'm surprised Tony Bennett, Sinéad and Mitch weren't all tied to Vax related health issues
Tony Bennett probably not. Mitch maybe, Sinead definitely not.
 

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Since the COVID-19 pandemic began, heart attack deaths across all age groups have become more common in the U.S., according to a September 2022 study by Cedars Sinai hospital in Los Angeles.

The age group hit the hardest? People between 25 and 44, who saw a 29.9% relative increase in heart attack deaths over the first two years of the pandemic (which means the actual number of heart attack deaths were almost 30% higher than the predicted number).
Not only in the area of deaths, but the disability and potential life long pain of dealing with this.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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today show

LMAO

as my nurse wife said this morning: "they're saying healthy people can have heart attacks now?"

it's a joke and you're the punchline, apartment dweller
We're expected to be stupid and just believe what makes no sense. Of course, healthy people can have heart attacks. But, what are the actual percentages? Miniscule.
 

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Why do you think the airline industry is a complete mess? They can't get enough pilots and crew to fly planes.

You don't have to be a genius to figure this **** out doc. Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. During the whole run up and beyond, they did a ton of damage to people.

I already heard enough your crap the first go 'round.
“Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. “

You literally no nothing about health care, clinicians, or evidence based medicine. And just proved it. The vast majority of ICU, ED, ID, and hospital medicine clinicians who actually took care of covid pts are, by definition, , skeptics who question everything. Unlike specialists who only take care of one organ, these clinicians HAVE to keep an open mind to get to the right answer. Always right? Hell no, taking care of patients is freaking hard work. Always questioning? Hell yes (or they don’t last very long based on poor peer review findings).
 

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“Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. “

You literally no nothing about health care, clinicians, or evidence based medicine. And just proved it. The vast majority of ICU, ED, ID, and hospital medicine clinicians who actually took care of covid pts are, by definition, , skeptics who question everything. Unlike specialists who only take care of one organ, these clinicians HAVE to keep an open mind to get to the right answer. Always right? Hell no, taking care of patients is freaking hard work. Always questioning? Hell yes (or they don’t last very long based on poor peer review findings).
I know enough to know they don't fix anything, that's why its called a practice.

They give you an injection or a pill which does nothing but mask the condition and then adds to the list of side affects.

You guys aren't as important as you think you are.
 

dinglefritz

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dingle, you guys have lost the narrative.
I haven’t lost sight of the facts. I’m a conservative against mandating COVID vaccination who also knows there was real value for millions of people in receiving said vaccine. The narrative pushed by some that it had no value is driven by extremely poor statistical knowledge.

I also understand that we had extremely poor leadership in dealing with COVID. I think there’s one guy who should be completely disgraced for his role.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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I haven’t lost sight of the facts. I’m a conservative against mandating COVID vaccination who also knows there was real value for millions of people in receiving said vaccine. The narrative pushed by some that it had no value is driven by extremely poor statistical knowledge.

I also understand that we had extremely poor leadership in dealing with COVID. I think there’s one guy who should be completely disgraced for his role.
My only thing is: it's not a vaccine. It's all synthetic.

I don't think that one guy should be disgraced, I think he should be hanged.
 

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If the government says something is absolutely safe, it isn't.


I continue to be happy that I thought for myself and didn't sheep up.
 

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“Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. “

You literally no nothing about health care, clinicians, or evidence based medicine. And just proved it. The vast majority of ICU, ED, ID, and hospital medicine clinicians who actually took care of covid pts are, by definition, , skeptics who question everything. Unlike specialists who only take care of one organ, these clinicians HAVE to keep an open mind to get to the right answer. Always right? Hell no, taking care of patients is freaking hard work. Always questioning? Hell yes (or they don’t last very long based on poor peer review findings).
Remember when Dr. Rob took to twiiter and compared the unvaxxed to flat earthers?

Can't wait for the next pandemic inspired tik tok dance routines.
 

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Fvcking humans. Immediately connecting the vaccine to this is why social media and the internet should be eradicated from the earth. That Thanos was on to something as well.
Yeah. Censorship is always the answer.😑
 

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Fvcking humans. Immediately connecting the vaccine to this is why social media and the internet should be eradicated from the earth. That Thanos was on to something as well.
Imagine being pro censorship.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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“Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. “

You literally no nothing about health care, clinicians, or evidence based medicine. And just proved it. The vast majority of ICU, ED, ID, and hospital medicine clinicians who actually took care of covid pts are, by definition, , skeptics who question everything. Unlike specialists who only take care of one organ, these clinicians HAVE to keep an open mind to get to the right answer. Always right? Hell no, taking care of patients is freaking hard work. Always questioning? Hell yes (or they don’t last very long based on poor peer review findings).
Evidence based medicine? They gave, and continue to give people Remdesivir, put them on the ventilator and they DIE. That's your evidence!

You don't get to change history.

It's the hospitals' protocol, that's why you won't see me in any fuvking hospital anytime soon. I'll take my chances.
 
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"It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince him that he has been fooled."
Mark Twain

This is even truer when admitting one has been fooled would mean accepting that your actions/agreement/cooperation contributed to the persecution, injury, disability, and death of millions of people.
 

TampaBaySkers

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"It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince him that he has been fooled."
Mark Twain

This is even truer when admitting one has been fooled would mean accepting that your actions/agreement/cooperation contributed to the persecution, injury, disability, and death of millions of people.
Heck I can admit it. I took the “vaccine” after getting bullied into it by my employer. Lucky I’m 40 (6’2” 185lbs) and go for light jogs, gym 4-5 days a week and golf is my only sport so not too worried about my heart crapping out, but I would can say with great certainty that I was fooled into taking it. I would certainly not do it again.

Disclaimer - If you are high risk then you should take the “vaccine.”
 
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Heck I can admit it. I took the “vaccine” after getting bullied into it by my employer. Lucky I’m 40 (6’2” 185lbs) and go for light jogs, gym 4-5 days a week and golf is my only sport so not too worried about my heart crapping out, but I would can say with great certainty that I was fooled into taking it. I would certainly not do it again.

Disclaimer - If you are high risk then you should take the “vaccine.”
 

dinglefritz

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My only thing is: it's not a vaccine. It's all synthetic.

I don't think that one guy should be disgraced, I think he should be hanged.
It is in fact a vaccine. It stimulates your immune system to produce immune defenses to a pathogen. That said the highest number of adverse reactions were actually to the traditionally manufactured vaccines. Moderna’s was actually much safer and more effective.
 

dinglefritz

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"It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince him that he has been fooled."
Mark Twain

This is even truer when admitting one has been fooled would mean accepting that your actions/agreement/cooperation contributed to the persecution, injury, disability, and death of millions of people.
I’m a person in my 60s with asthma and an immune disease. NOBODY fooled me in to taking the vaccine. My risks from getting vaccinated were minuscule compared to my risk from getting COVID. It’s not an all or none topic. There were very good reasons for millions of Americans to get vaccinated and it was largely safe and effective for the vast majority.

Yes antigenic drift decreased the effectiveness but not one person I know who got the whole series in a timely manner became I’ll with COVID. Not one. The flip side of that is that one friend of mine who had zero comirbidities contracted COVID before the vaccine was available, spent a month on a ventilator then died a horrible death.

It’s true that the government exaggerated the fatalities from COVID IMO but don’t confuse that with the value of vaccination for at risk people. IMO mandating vaccination was more about trying to build a population immunity than protecting the people forced to get vaccinated. It was BS.
 

dinglefritz

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Evidence based medicine? They gave, and continue to give people Remdesivir, put them on the ventilator and they DIE. That's your evidence!
You don't get to change history.

It's the hospitals' protocol, that's why you won't see me in any fuvking hospital anytime soon. I'll take my chances.
Man I love you and there were mistakes made but that’s not a wise attitude for someone of similar age to me.
 

Mrs.Jeans15

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“Doctors that just accepted the government narrative, bought their ******** lies hook, line and sinker. “

You literally no nothing about health care, clinicians, or evidence based medicine. And just proved it. The vast majority of ICU, ED, ID, and hospital medicine clinicians who actually took care of covid pts are, by definition, , skeptics who question everything. Unlike specialists who only take care of one organ, these clinicians HAVE to keep an open mind to get to the right answer. Always right? Hell no, taking care of patients is freaking hard work. Always questioning? Hell yes (or they don’t last very long based on poor peer review findings).
Hospitals and the govt exaggerated Covid deaths numbers.

It was a sht show.
 
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I did the double Pfizer jabs at the time I was going back to Thailand and had to just to get in the country. In hindsight I would have never got. These dummies that keep going back for 5 or 6 boosters are utterly insane. I had Covid and it was nothing. The only real downside was losing taste and smell. I couldn't taste my Bourbon. That sucked.
 

dinglefritz

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I did the double Pfizer jabs at the time I was going back to Thailand and had to just to get in the country. In hindsight I would have never got. These dummies that keep going back for 5 or 6 boosters are utterly insane. I had Covid and it was nothing. The only real downside was losing taste and smell. I couldn't taste my Bourbon. That sucked.
Pfizer’s vaccine was not as effective as Moderna’s. That said there is a possibility that you would have been sicker if you hadn’t gotten vaccinated. There’s just no way to know for sure on a case by case basis.

My spouse did her due diligence and we both got Moderna’s as soon as possible. Fortunately for I me was considered an essential worker so I was among the first vaccinated in our area. We’ve both had 5 doses now with zero adverse effects and neither of us have ever tested positive despite numerous exposures no doubt by now. We’ll get the updated Moderna’s vaccine when it’s available.
 

dinglefritz

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The vaccine never did work. Please supply data showing it did.

The boosters were only tested on mice, no humans. https://nypost.com/2022/08/28/lates...be-released-before-human-testing-is-complete/

Or this one about countries who paused vaccines because of heart issues https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-europe-moderna-idUSL1N2RE22K

Answer these questions:
Why won't they release what is in the vaccines?
Why weren't treatment methods explored for covid and properly tested. Don't tell me ivermectin was clinically tested because it was not but look now. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Or that the vaccine never did prevent spread of the virus nor was it affective against the virus because it changed too rapidly which they already knew. https://www.michigancapitolconfiden...-vaccine-was-never-meant-to-stop-transmission

How can any reasonable person not see what is going on.
A vaccine was taken off the market in both Europe and the US because of too many adverse reactions. The myocarditis in a very small percentage of people vaccinated in the US resolved within 3 days in virtually every person in the US statistically. The number of people with heart issues post vaccination was statistically the same as the unvaccinated population.
 

dinglefritz

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As it turns out, the connection from the vaccine was correct in this case.
Young athletes were suffering cardiac arrest in sports long before there was a COVID vaccine. Personally I developed myocarditis after a respiratory infection about 3 years before COVID.
 

TampaBaySkers

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I did the double Pfizer jabs at the time I was going back to Thailand and had to just to get in the country. In hindsight I would have never got. These dummies that keep going back for 5 or 6 boosters are utterly insane. I had Covid and it was nothing. The only real downside was losing taste and smell. I couldn't taste my Bourbon. That sucked.
That’s when ya just stick to benchmark. No need to waste your Blanton’s.
 
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That’s when ya just stick to benchmark. No need to waste your Blanton’s.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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I’m a person in my 60s with asthma and an immune disease. NOBODY fooled me in to taking the vaccine. My risks from getting vaccinated were minuscule compared to my risk from getting COVID. It’s not an all or none topic. There were very good reasons for millions of Americans to get vaccinated and it was largely safe and effective for the vast majority.

Yes antigenic drift decreased the effectiveness but not one person I know who got the whole series in a timely manner became I’ll with COVID. Not one. The flip side of that is that one friend of mine who had zero comirbidities contracted COVID before the vaccine was available, spent a month on a ventilator then died a horrible death.

It’s true that the government exaggerated the fatalities from COVID IMO but don’t confuse that with the value of vaccination for at risk people. IMO mandating vaccination was more about trying to build a population immunity than protecting the people forced to get vaccinated. It was BS.
The whole government narrative was a big lie.

My sister was in good health, took the jab and was dead 9 days later.

My first cousin in Jacksonville was in tip-top shape, took the jab and died 11 days later.

Safe and effective, my ***.

I'm glad you took the jab and boosters and feel it helped you. Can't say the same for 2 loved ones who were killed by it.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Evidence based medicine? They gave, and continue to give people Remdesivir, put them on the ventilator and they DIE. That's your evidence!

Man I love you and there were mistakes made but that’s not a wise attitude for someone of similar age to me.
I have a lot of respect for you too, dingle. We just have opposing views on the whole thing, and we both stick to our guns, that's how it should be.

To say I don't trust hospitals, would be an understatement.