Bring back option and power running
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do not upset the pass happy skybox crowd. we only won 3 NC's in 4 years with running the ball. it just doesn't work, we are much better off recruiting against everyone else for the pass happy players we will never get. plus if we go 3 and out passing we can leave our defense on the field all game in bad situations..
Well a career .500 coach managed to win more than 5 here so I'd say that statement is false.
Don't be stupid. Young has been playing with an injury most of the season. With Newby out he has to play. Period.
It's important to remember that great old school option coaches are a dying breed. We aren't going to find them at Navy and Air Force. We can find smash mouth football coaches but the glory of the option is a thing of the past.
Why why why #9 killing us so keep throwing how about run at him a little wear him out. But let's keep throwing I like it
Zone read is not your typical option. The triple option as you know it is dying with the old school coaches who ran it.
OMG we didn't run the true triple option back in the day and zone read is what read the De and if he collapse keep it and if he doesn't hand it off. That is option. Nebraska used the fullback to lead block and occasionally run the trap very rarely did they run true triple option
So you're saying lead option was a bigger weapon? Obviously no one play made that offense purr but to say the TO was never used is wrong.
There are entire breakdowns of that Nebraska offense on the internet with frame by frame discussions about the triple option. I don't see any reason for the discussion about something an offense very rarely ran. Osborne once said it wasn't triple option based on the call in the huddle, true or not I don't know but you don't have the fullback hitting the A or B gap on an option if he's playing lead blocker. Either way the coaches you're begging for run a true triple option offense which was kind of my point.
You also complained about spread offenses earlier and now you're hailing the zone read?
Yeah it's an option but it's just not played the same way. A speed option out of the gun is about as old school as it gets these days unless you look towards the service academies.
We don't need the option to be successful but I do think we need a physical run focused offense with an efficient passing game. When we're passing the damn football on 3rd and 2 then there is a problem, this isn't the freaking NFL people...
We were wrong. Bo stopped recruiting for all intents and purposes 3 years before he left.
You are assuming that better athletes will result in a better record and I think you're right. However, i don't think this staff will ever have championship caliber teams, even with better talent. Having said that Riley gets to stay as long as he wants IMO. He's just such a good ambassador for NU football and thats pretty important too.
Yep. There's probably only one person that I can think of that would know how to coach it properly and it's not Paul Johnson.
Wow I thought my post was double top secret and encrypted to boot. The right answer is he "might". Nothing more.
Scheme is hardly the problem. As Bob Devaney once said, " I have yet to see a jockey win a horse race." You gotta have the thoroughbreds to win today. We don't have 'em right now. For that we can thank Mark Pelini.
Thats cute...you think we used to have three plays in our playbook. You havent got a clue.
Btw i agree we cant go back to option offense. A power run offense, however...
Ok i may have misunderstood a previous post i commented on because this is on point.
I domt think we have the talent to compete for a B1G championship this year or last year.
I do feel we have the talent to not have lost to purdue and illinois or byu last year, and to not get blown out in the 2nd worse loss in school history or by 30 to 7-4 iowa. Thats middle ground.
We dont have the talent to win championships, but we do have the talent to expect better than the above. I dont think thats a crazy thing to say.
This.
We are emulating them when we should be emulating Stanford. We can recruit better than stanford. Their identity has worked quite well the past five years.
Actually, we should wait at least one more year. That way, we could have 3 years of recruiting drop-back passing QB's. Then, we could fire Riley and bring in an option oriented coach. We'd lose for 2 or 3 more years as we wait for that coach to get his players in place - losing patience as we go. Then, fire the option oriented coach just as we fill the QB depth chart with the next batch of Tommy Armstrong/Taylor Martinez types as we transition back to a passing oriented offense.
UM, PSU, Wisky, tOSU, MSU have brick wall DL's.. Nebraska.. nor any of the teams mentioned will simply overpower a schedule like that via the run. PSU took down OSU and they are not even at full strength.. and Iowa steeled up vs. UM.. you are in a tough league and at least 2/3 teams are going to have more raw talent than Nebraska.. so you need a great coach..
I agree. Paul Johnson's offense is doing just fine and has proven that the option can still be very effective. Unfortunately his defense is ****. The option is fun to watch, and I wish more teams ran the traditional option.