That could happen too, especially if its a big jump in money. If I were him, I wouldn't go back there unless I was the head coach.
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That could happen too, especially if its a big jump in money. If I were him, I wouldn't go back there unless I was the head coach.
Not sure Pitt lost its entire team.
Sure 9 players have asked for a transfer because Pitt did not have an announced coach.
Now that they do some players may be asked to stay and play for Jeff Capel.
Will have to see how this selection evolves but from reading the comments on the Duke Board I was encouraged because he was highly regarded/respected by many posters. Some even thought he could be Coach K replacement which he still could be if successful at Pitt.
Time will tell.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Inman was selfish and should have been kicked off the team. Same goes with griff.
Hill was a disaster that f'd up Inman and Griffin not to mention other players. All the blame lies on him
I’m not a FHJ fan, but his choices were let Inman do whatever and Keep the talent on the team or kick him off and lose by way more than he was. Inman was a bum
Griffin was particularly awful. One of the most selfish players I can remember....never passing and firing up shots from anywhere and everywhere.
Starting to wonder maybe we should just hire a jay Williams type to be the face of the program and recruit. Then hire a veteran assistant that actually coaches the team
Like those other former stars killing it in recruiting? Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing and others.
Unfortunately, Guys with 20 million in the bank don't outwork hungry coaches. They think they can just show up and recruits will follow them. Most 16 or 17 year old don't even know them.
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Oh I must have missed jay Williams being a former star . Tell me did he play on the dream team like Ewing and Mullin? If not, I am sure he was a heck of an nba player. Right ?
College teams that think they can just hire a former star... College or PRO, are destined to fail. It never works out as easy as you might think, it rarely works out. You may be able to name a handful in the last 30 years.
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JR was 12 and 7 for FHJ his soph and junior seasons. Would guess FHJ wanted JR to be something he was not--a big banger and rebounder. But assume you have some personal knowledge of the situation, instead of rumor and twitter?
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Actually, Plum, Jay Williams was an excellent basketball player. Picked second in the NBA draft by the Bulls, but tore up his leg in a serious motorcycle accident that ended his NBA career before it started.
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Jay Williams might have been the best point guard I have ever seen playing in college. He could do everything.
Hill screwed them all off...remember under Waters all 3 of them were very solid players and people
2 solid players. Inman/Farmer had very good sophomore/junior seasons... Griffin never seemed to break through. He certainly wasn't shy about missing threes.
He also was a outstanding high school player at St.Josephs where I watched the crossover dribble in amazement.
Plum, would guess you are talking about Gary Waters and Fred Hill, Jr. GW took us to three NIT's during his tenure, but he wasn't trendy enough. Too old, talked about God too much, didn't make the NCAA's. Mulcahy was sure that if he didn't hire FHJ, Seton Hall would snap him up as their HC. So when RU had a losing record, he hired FHJ as chief assistant, and Tattler in Chief so he could get enough on GW to justify firing him without paying him off. There was a drumfire of posts on the board from posters who were never seen before or since demanding that GW be fired yesterday and FHJ made HC. RU made the NIT for the third time under GW, but it made no difference. There was a pretext: GW was to be honored at Kent State on Sunday. RU had a game scheduled on Monday. A freak snowstorm stranded GW and he missed the game. FHJ stepped in; RU won and all the newbies said SEE! FHJ CAN coach as well as he recruits. Mulcahy wanted to make the change right then, using the freak absence as an excuse for not paying him. Waters' lawyers just laughed; he left at the end of the year, got his money, signed with Cleveland State, and a couple of years later, took them to the NCAA's. At the regional in Florida, with me--and the rest of the crowd-- rooting for them, Cleveland State knocked off Wake Forest which had three future NBA regulars playing for them.
FHJ didn't need any help. He was exceptionally bad at handling players. Each year, he would sign The Next Great RU Player, cr*p on the guy he had anointed last season, and give the new guy free rein to do anything he wanted on the court. Do some research on Gil Birutas and why he transferred. He had an eye injury and FHJ was so unconcerned that he couldn't remember which eye it was. Birutas was not one of his chosen. Nor was JR Inman. To say that class got two coaches fired is plain wrong. I wouldn't let FHJ coach a Y team.
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First of all, bob may had influence but it was waters who made the final call to put him on staff . Look back at the news stories at the time. Did those journalists completely miss the story?
Bottom line the FIG class didn’t so anybjng and neither has any other recruiting class here in a long, long time. Hoping better days are ahead, we all deserve it.
These boards have become a mob mentality. I do not agree with FIGs particular opinion on this topic but some of the comments attacking him and his opinion are totally unwarranted. He is a good poster and if you unable to have a discussion because you disagree then maybe you cant handle message boards.
I see some of the more argumentative football posters who have an aneurism every time you don't compliment the program have made their way into this thread as well.
I see some of the more argumentative football posters who have an aneurism every time you don't compliment the program have made their way into this thread as well.
I think it has more to do with the fact that Greenrice-FIG is never not negative. It’s always a ***** and moan about something.
Plum, in a perfect world, FHJ would have done the recruiting and GW the coaching. But you can read between the lines. GW was forced to hire him, because Mulcahy was sure SHU would grab him. FHJ was Mulcahy's spy, directed to gather evidence of GW's failures as a coach. And why would FHJ not? If GW were fired, he would have that job--even though he had interviewed for some number of lesser programs and never been hired.
The circumstances surrounding FHJ's departure were quite instructive. He had screwed up royally, but Mulcahy had sprung for a contract. RU was unwilling to dismiss him because he was still owed money--and the new AD couldn't spring for another coach while still paying off FHJ. So he was actually getting more time to turn it around, thanks to the largesse of Mulcahy.
Then FHJ did something terminally foolish. He went to his Dad's RU baseball game vs Pitt, and launched a profanity-laden tirade
at the Pitt coaches. They complained. AD Pernetti called FHJ in and told him to stay away from the two games remaining in the series. So FHJ follows the directive, right? No. He showed up in a hat and fake mustache at the next game, slouched down in his car. A childish, willful stunt that got him fired without his money. And that stunt defines the man. He is an assistant at SHU and at 58, will never ever have another HC job.
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