Brakefield to duke

bigblue1971

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Dook already has three big forwards. They had three better ones last year and flamed out again. K is gonna sell them on FOUR big forwards now? I think this development helps us with Kuminga. And even better, Barnes, who I thought was ungettable, is back in play. UKs class could still wind up historically good.
Agree. I'd be very surprised if Cal doesn't get at least 1-2 out of this group in the fall period and who knows who could pop up in the spring and summer. I'm still not sold that Banchero doesn't reclass after summer league.
Kuminga
Cunningham
Brown
Barnes
Todd
Jackson
Askew
Omoruyi
Banchero
 

JASUN74

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He’s easily more than a 2 year guy has very limited offensive skill set. Rebounder and fouls he will be recruited over and get 5 minutes a game if he’s lucky
He’ll end up being pretty good i believe. Those kids work hard down there and he’s got a lot more skills than you’re giving him credit for in my opinion. He’s a really good athlete and their staff will help him grow and get better. I’ll just wish him the bast and move on to our kids now. Thanks
 

bigblue1971

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Who would preclude Kuminga from picking Duke and starting at the 4 spot?
Kuminga would start and be Dukes best player but you know that's not gonna sit well with Coleman or anybody else they may bring in at the 4 spot. I'm guessing Kuminga wants to play the 3 more than anything and Johnson has that locked down. Alot of big time players don't like a crowded position, we saw that with McDaniels.
 
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Agree. I'd be very surprised if Cal doesn't get at least 1-2 out of this group in the fall period and who knows who could pop up in the spring and summer. I'm still not sold that Banchero doesn't reclass after summer league.
Kuminga
Cunningham
Brown
Barnes
Todd
Jackson
Askew
Omoruyi
Banchero
Well I’ll take Cunningham and Kuminga and Banchero in the spring.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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They are a lights out program. Clearly the top school for kids to go, I'm glad they don't make Final 4's tho lol


I literally just got out of surgery for an inguinal hernia. I’m on my way home and still pretty loopy but even I can tell you cup the taint of coach K and duke.

Duke does have their own board ya know...
 
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JC CATS

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We all know Duke will end up #1 class, they can get the very Top talent as we seen the past 3 years. Plus UK has two 4 stars which is low to our standards.
They may be low standards but would you have turned away Tyler Herro, SGA, Devin Booker? 4 star guys can play
 
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So you think they will "back off" Askew? lol
I was wondering the same thing about Askew, if he takes an official visit to Memphis after visiting UK and having just visited there Thursday, I would think that won’t sit well with Cal. Maybe Cal will start to focus else where
 
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Amazing Coach K can still reel in these classes. Cal has some work to do to finish out this class.
Let's not get carried away this guy wanted an offer to Uk and wanted to lay here, but Cal passed. I believe Cal has bigger fish to fry and Dook is taking whoever they can get at this point and are happy with not putting energy into the Top 10 players Cal is still after. Probably because Dook doesn't have a chance with any of the remaining Top 10 and they know it so they are scrambling.
 

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I dont care where UK's class is ranked. Honestly dont. Cal has proven he can develop and win with supposedly lower ranked kids.
Used to really care. It's all subjective anyway.
 
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This isn't the Dook we are used to. Think of it like this. JJ was someone everyone wanted, but he committed really early to Dook. After Roach got hurt we stopped contact. We never gave Steward or Coleman a sniff. After Brakefiled made his list he said he would add UK if he could get an offer, but it never came. Dook isn't in our way for anyone the rest of the way and it's early Oct. except maybe a reclass and they have 5 now and probably 6 after Williams and they will return a lot more than us next year. They are stealing from U6 if anything. They are #1 right now, but it won't last long. K is recruiting scared if you ask me.

They are just putting butts in the seats we are still involved with big-time talent. Cade, Askew, Todd, Brown, Paolo, Maker, Jackson just to mention a few. We get 2 of these guys and we skyrocket past them. Really the only thing helping them with that #1 class is the BS ranking of Clarke at 13th. We are going to have an epic class compared to their 2nd, third-tier team.
 
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Plus Dook is adding a lot of 2+ year guys and with what they will return from this year's team what will they have for 2020 3-4 schollys to offer. I know they can run some guys off, but they are filling up for 2 years with the middle of the road.
 

FrankUnderwood

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This isn't the Dook we are used to. Think of it like this. JJ was someone everyone wanted, but he committed really early to Dook. After Roach got hurt we stopped contact. We never gave Steward or Coleman a sniff. After Brakefiled made his list he said he would add UK if he could get an offer, but it never came. Dook isn't in our way for anyone the rest of the way except maybe a reclass and they have 5 now and probably 6 after Williams and they will return a lot more than us next year. They are stealing from U6 if anything. They are #1 right now, but it won't last long.

They are just putting butts in the seats we are still involved with big-time talent. Cade, Askew, Todd, Brown, Paolo, Maker, Jackson just to mention a few. We get 2 of these guys and we skyrocket past them. Really the only thing helping them with that #1 class is the BS ranking of Clarke at 13th. We are going to have an epic class compared to their 2nd, third-tier team.


Excellent post!
 

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UK is out recruiting Duke this year . Duke literally has 1 player I would want in our class out of 5. And this is huge for Kuminga as there is another center Duke is going get so that will give them 4 bigs already in thier class and you slice it anyway you want but that isn't attractive to a recruit. It was like when people were aruging that the VT center Blackshear should come here because EJ , brooks and Sestina are PF not C but in the end they are bigs and UF had fewer bigs who were talented so he went there . I am pretty hyped about this news of brakefield committing as A. it gives Duke an average player and B. makes things easier for us to get Kuminga .
 
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caneintally

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This isn't the Dook we are used to. Think of it like this. JJ was someone everyone wanted, but he committed really early to Dook. After Roach got hurt we stopped contact. We never gave Steward or Coleman a sniff. After Brakefiled made his list he said he would add UK if he could get an offer, but it never came. Dook isn't in our way for anyone the rest of the way and it's early Oct. except maybe a reclass and they have 5 now and probably 6 after Williams and they will return a lot more than us next year. They are stealing from U6 if anything. They are #1 right now, but it won't last long. K is recruiting scared if you ask me.

They are just putting butts in the seats we are still involved with big-time talent. Cade, Askew, Todd, Brown, Paolo, Maker, Jackson just to mention a few. We get 2 of these guys and we skyrocket past them. Really the only thing helping them with that #1 class is the BS ranking of Clarke at 13th. We are going to have an epic class compared to their 2nd, third-tier team.
Bingo ! We are ballin after big time names and they are getting commitments from guys I could care less about ( minus Johnson) .
 

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I was wondering the same thing about Askew, if he takes an official visit to Memphis after visiting UK and having just visited there Thursday, I would think that won’t sit well with Cal. Maybe Cal will start to focus else where
We’re his last official visit!
 
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Kuminga would start and be Dukes best player but you know that's not gonna sit well with Coleman or anybody else they may bring in at the 4 spot. I'm guessing Kuminga wants to play the 3 more than anything and Johnson has that locked down. Alot of big time players don't like a crowded position, we saw that with McDaniels.

But K often plays his 4s like 3s. He did it with Zion, with Wislow, with Parker, etc.

I can't buy stock in the idea that Kuminga only wants to play the 3. I mean, I respect your position about positions being overstocked with good players, but Coleman is going to play the 5 for Duke and Brakefield is likely irrelevant when it comes to Kuminga's decision.

If K sells JK on playing the face-up 4, I don't think it would be much a stretch to think it wouldn't work for them.

I think this one ultimately has less to do with any positional personnel impediments and more to do with which coach Kuminga prefers more.

Hopefully it's Calipari.
 

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Those of you guys who have been promoting a narrative that Duke's recruiting "is down" might want to reconsider that thesis.
 
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Those of you guys who have been promoting a narrative that Duke's recruiting "is down" might want to reconsider that thesis.
They have 5 guys, 3 we didn't want or offer and 1 we stopped contact with after his injury. The past 5 years it has been us and them battling over players and that isn't the case for 2020 so they might be doing just fine, but they aren't in our way and that's a nice change if you ask me.
 

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But K often plays his 4s like 3s. He did it with Zion, with Wislow, with Parker, etc.

I can't buy stock in the idea that Kuminga only wants to play the 3. I mean, I respect your position about positions being overstocked with good players, but Coleman is going to play the 5 for Duke and Brakefield is likely irrelevant when it comes to Kuminga's decision.

If K sells JK on playing the face-up 4, I don't think it would be much a stretch to think it wouldn't work for them.

I think this one ultimately has less to do with any positional personnel impediments and more to do with which coach Kuminga prefers more.

Hopefully it's Calipari.
Duke is heavily favored to land Mark Williams and/or Hunter Dickerson. One or both of them will be their 5 spot. Coleman is a 6'7" PF the only way he plays much 5 is if they miss on both and K plays small ball. I think Williams will commit soon.
 

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Is this a Kentucky board or a Duke one? Why the love-fest for Coach K and the doubt for Coach Cal. We will have the best class and the best team.
 
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If this were a loss, he'd have been a Cat 12 months ago.

We were in the drivers seat for the entire recruitment until we pulled over and left the car on the sidewalk. Kid just never developed.

Duke is reaching, and it never goes well. It's when they end up with the Duvals of the world.
 

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Duke is heavily favored to land Mark Williams and/or Hunter Dickerson. One or both of them will be their 5 spot. Coleman is a 6'7" PF the only way he plays much 5 is if they miss on both and K plays small ball. I think Williams will commit soon.
They’re not favored for Hunter that’s a Purdue/ Michigan battle!
 
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They will get Williams another 30 something guy and that's 6 and with what they will have to return next year they ain't gonna have many schollys left unless K pulls the old thanks for the memories after one year you're out, he's in. Like I said they haven't gotten but one guy we really wanted and the will only have room for one after Williams if that. Then in 2021 they will be very limited. Joey Baker ain't going pro after this year along with a lot of their other players. They may have 3 go pro or at least 3 that should.

Who would you guys trade off our 2020 team for there's after JJ? I think Clarke is as good as him and they don't have anyone after that I would trade for Boston. You also have to remember they are finishing up their recruiting because they aren't involved with any other Top 15 kids and they know it. We could still land two of those and blow their class out of the water. 3 of their 5 guys we never wanted and Roach we never contacted much after he got hurt and not at all way before he picked Dook.

Askew is coming maybe 2021, but I think we land at least one of Brown, Todd or Paolo. Plus I can't see Jackson picking Bama over us. We are in good with a good deal of the best players left and the top possible reclasses. I mean we pulled away from Christopher and he still says we are in his top 5 as of today. We ended things with Green and never offered Brakefield who was dying for an offer from UK. Let's panic because they are getting a bunch of guys we never recruited, but U6 did LOL.We good.

Dook is having to steal from U6 because they can't from us this year. Going by Rivals Top 20 there are 11 guys undecided. Dook is recruiting scared. We have Clarke 4th and Boston 17th and they have JJ at 5th and that's the only Top 20 guy they will get unless a reclass. Rivals have their next Roach at 24th. Dude should have dropped out of the 20s after not playing for a year. ESPN is the only one giving Dook a #1 class with their whack rankings. When they put Clarke at 13th I knew I couldn't use them anymore after he had just been in an article about the Top 10 players in HS regarding any class LMFAO.
 
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Purely speculation but my guess is K doesn't want to get caught short handed like last year. Injuries did affect their team last season and they didn't have much talent on the bench regardless of their high school rankings. These kids could all get "Bagley'd" and find themselves watching the first year as Duke over-recruits them. Kuminga/Green or any other elite will not be afraid to go there and place those other guys on the bench.

This also gives me one more opportunity to discuss how bad of a job K did with last year's team. He allowed them to shoot 818 3s at an inefficient clip of 30.2%. CRAZY.. you have Zion that is shooting over 70% from 2 and you allow Barrett/Reddish and the gang to bomb 3s. Cal would have never let that team fail like that. He would have force Barrett/Zion to drive and only allow Reddish to shoot open 3s. He would have hidden Barrett/Reddish's weaknesses (shooting) and NBA scouts wouldn't have as large of a sample size on their outside shot..thus their stock wouldn't have taken a dip like it did. (I know, I know, they were still drafted high and are millionaires, but they did lose money going to Duke)
 

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Cal passed on Baker for a reason. Put another name on this class for Duke, and it's a top 5 at best.
 

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Now watch them get Kuminga. Banchero and or Patrick Baldwin will probably reclass and go there as well. And, of course, like it always seems to happen, the year when we're loaded 20-21, Duke and UNC may be even more loaded. Our luck it always works out that way since Cal's been here.
 
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The 2020 Duke class is very good but nowhere near the Barrett, Zion, Reddish, and Jones class. With all that talent last year , Duke and UK ended up at exactly the same spot in the tourney.

I’m not going to worry about Duke- I know they will be good and will always be the national media’s sweethearts but UK isn’t going anywhere.