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[atlkvb]

Without actually knowing it, my man @Boomboom521 let the cat out of the bag about the Democrat party's fraud when it comes to Black folks. I didn't actually catch it at first but re-reading a series of posts in the thread entitled "double standard" it hit me! @Boomboom521 admitted the Democrats care more about their re-election than the very people they are asking to vote for them!

Here's how it went down...I asked him why the silence on the Left over these spectacular jobs numbers? All time historic lows of Black unemployment (below 6% for first time in history) and no one on the Left (Democrats) has much positive to say about them except maybe Nancy Pelosi and how little impact they're having on the "struggling middle class" trying to make ends meet in Trump's poor economy.[eyeroll]

Anyway, here's the jist of the thread to bring you all up to speed, then I'll show you how @Boomboom521 spilled the beans on the Democrat fraud and deceit.

Hey boomer ....You're firmly ensconced on the Left...why do you suppose the Democrats have been so silent about these positive jobs numbers for Blacks? I mean we have never seen Black unemployment below 6%....ever!

Let's say this happened under Obama...the nation's first Black President...would the Left be this silent about it? Wouldn't they be parading Obama around like Jesus was on Palm Sunday?

Why their silence over these tremendous jobs numbers for their #1 constituency? Help a brother out boom?

I’m not entirely sure what your talking about. The numbers have been all over CNN and the like.....aren’t they “leftists” by your insanity? Are you referring to Democrat politicians? Are they to sing Trump praises on the eve of midterms?

Yes them. So you're admitting their political careers are more important than improving the lives of the very people they claim to be so much in support of promoting? Can't have it both ways boomer my Man. They need Black voters don't they? What are they saying to them if they can't promote these spectacular jobs numbers/gains for them? What does that say about your party's whole philosophy?

I’d like to know exactly what it is you’d like for them to say?

Admit it their ideology has failed Black people because it has. Tell me boomer...you being of the "enlightened" Social Democrat Progressive wing of the Socialist worker's party...what is the formula that's better than Trump's plan to simply cut taxes and let the American people do what they do best?

Earn and keep their own money?

The response was dead silence. Know why? boomer admitted all the Democrats care about is getting re-elected, NOT the improving economic situation of their core constituency! This also dovetails nicely into a debate we had the other day on if the Democrats breed dependence and don't really want Blacks to succeed on their own. Well right here you have your proof!

They're not talking about these jobs numbers because Blacks aren't depending on them to get hired! Blacks aren't asking for food stamps or Welfare. Blacks are getting hired, to earn their own money and being allowed to keep it under Trump and that has the Left so upset, they can't even congratulate the lowest Black unemployment in history? Because they don't control it! Blacks didn't depend on them for the jobs. This is why they hate Trump, and Black Conservatives who don't buy into the "dependence" narrative.

This confirms the whole argument, and is 100% proof provided by none other than @Boomboom521 himself that the Left cares more about creating dependence than economic success for Blacks. They care more about maintaining their political power to create a needy constituency than cheering any good news for them outside their control. If it was any clearer, it'd slap me upside by big fat Negro head!
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[Snow Sled Baby]

Without actually knowing it, my man @Boomboom521 let the cat out of the bag about the Democrat party's fraud when it comes to Black folks. I didn't actually catch it at first but re-reading a series of posts in the thread entitled "double standard" it hit me! @Boomboom521 admitted the Democrats care more about their re-election than the very people they are asking to vote for them!

Here's how it went down...I asked him why the silence on the Left over these spectacular jobs numbers? All time historic lows of Black unemployment (below 6% for first time in history) and no one on the Left (Democrats) has much positive to say about them except maybe Nancy Pelosi and how little impact they're having on the "struggling middle class" trying to make ends meet in Trump's poor economy.[eyeroll]

Anyway, here's the jist of the thread to bring you all up to speed, then I'll show you how @Boomboom521 spilled the beans on the Democrat fraud and deceit.











The response was dead silence. Know why? boomer admitted all the Democrats care about is getting re-elected, NOT the improving economic situation of their core constituency! This also dovetails nicely into a debate we had the other day on if the Democrats breed dependence and don't really want Blacks to succeed on their own. Well right here you have your proof!

They're not talking about these jobs numbers because Blacks aren't depending on them to get hired! Blacks aren't asking for food stamps or Welfare. Blacks are getting hired, to earn their own money and being allowed to keep it under Trump and that has the Left so upset, they can't even congratulate the lowest Black unemployment in history? Because they don't control it! Blacks didn't depend on them for the jobs. This is why they hate Trump, and Black Conservatives who don't buy into the "dependence" narrative.

This confirms the whole argument, and is 100% proof provided by none other than @Boomboom521 himself that the Left cares more about creating dependence than economic success for Blacks. They care more about maintaining their political power to create a needy constituency than cheering any good news for them outside their control. If it was any clearer, it'd slap me upside by big fat Negro head!
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that's an awful lot of info to digest this early.....there will be some liberal panties in a wad.......but actually I think Boom is a good guy......a little misguided politically...but a good guy

 

[atlkvb]

that's an awful lot of info to digest this early.....there will be some liberal panties in a wad.......but actually I think Boom is a good guy......a little misguided politically...but a good guy

You're right. He is OK...I'm just pointing out how in a brief moment of candor, he let us in on the whole Democrat Left's scam on my Black Brothers and Sisters.

I like boomer. Told him so. But I don't think he's willing to admit to this Democrat flim flam scam on Blacks. But...he did in that thread exchange Snow Sled Baby!

Very nice service he provided to the unwashedkay:

 

[mule_eer]

Without actually knowing it, my man @Boomboom521 let the cat out of the bag about the Democrat party's fraud when it comes to Black folks. I didn't actually catch it at first but re-reading a series of posts in the thread entitled "double standard" it hit me! @Boomboom521 admitted the Democrats care more about their re-election than the very people they are asking to vote for them!

Here's how it went down...I asked him why the silence on the Left over these spectacular jobs numbers? All time historic lows of Black unemployment (below 6% for first time in history) and no one on the Left (Democrats) has much positive to say about them except maybe Nancy Pelosi and how little impact they're having on the "struggling middle class" trying to make ends meet in Trump's poor economy.[eyeroll]

Anyway, here's the jist of the thread to bring you all up to speed, then I'll show you how @Boomboom521 spilled the beans on the Democrat fraud and deceit.











The response was dead silence. Know why? boomer admitted all the Democrats care about is getting re-elected, NOT the improving economic situation of their core constituency! This also dovetails nicely into a debate we had the other day on if the Democrats breed dependence and don't really want Blacks to succeed on their own. Well right here you have your proof!

They're not talking about these jobs numbers because Blacks aren't depending on them to get hired! Blacks aren't asking for food stamps or Welfare. Blacks are getting hired, to earn their own money and being allowed to keep it under Trump and that has the Left so upset, they can't even congratulate the lowest Black unemployment in history? Because they don't control it! Blacks didn't depend on them for the jobs. This is why they hate Trump, and Black Conservatives who don't buy into the "dependence" narrative.

This confirms the whole argument, and is 100% proof provided by none other than @Boomboom521 himself that the Left cares more about creating dependence than economic success for Blacks. They care more about maintaining their political power to create a needy constituency than cheering any good news for them outside their control. If it was any clearer, it'd slap me upside by big fat Negro head!
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I have a couple of points to make about this.

First, government assistance isn't proportionally dominated by minorities. That includes all government assistance programs to include Medicaid.

Second, nearly 100% of politicians are more concerned about their reelection than anything else.

 

[atlkvb]

I have a couple of points to make about this.

First, government assistance isn't proportionally dominated by minorities. That includes all government assistance programs to include Medicaid.

Second, nearly 100% of politicians are more concerned about their reelection than anything else.

Both true. My point was Democrats purport to be for the economoc advancement of Blacks in particular claiming Conservatives are against that, yet with a Conservative approach Blacks are doing better and no one on the Left acknowledges it or gives Conservatives credit for it.

If it were Left wing income redistribution programs that gave us 3.9% unemployment they would be touting it. Boomer exposed what you correctly pointed out in line 2 of your post...but the Left won't admit that's their ultimate objective....not helping Black folks. Only to the extent they(Black voters) keep them in power and depending on their benevelonce to stay there do they care.

That's why you're not hearing anything from the Left about these jobs numbers...they don't have anything to do with it.

 

[mule_eer]

Both true. My point was Democrats purport to be for the economoc advancement of Blacks in particular claiming Conservatives are against that, yet with a Conservative approach Blacks are doing better and no one on the Left acknowledges it or gives Conservatives credit for it.

If it were Left wing income redistribution programs that gave us 3.9% unemployment they would be touting it. Boomer exposed what you correctly pointed out in line 2 of your post...but the Left won't admit that's their ultimate objective....not helping Black folks. Only to the extent they(Black voters) keep them in power and depending on their benevelonce to stay there do they care.

That's why you're not hearing anything from the Left about these jobs numbers...they don't have anything to do with it.

Wasn't unemployment at 4.3% when Trump took office, and wasn't that a bogus statistic? Did they change how that was computed?

 

[atlkvb]

Wasn't unemployment at 4.3% when Trump took office, and wasn't that a bogus statistic? Did they change how that was computed?

As I remember it they kept reducing the unemployment number by refusing to include those folks who'd simply given up looking for jobs. I do know black unemployment particularly teenage unemployment, remained at or in double-digits for the majority of Obama's presidency.

 

[mule_eer]

As I remember it they kept reducing the unemployment number by refusing to include those folks who'd simply given up looking for jobs. I do know black unemployment particularly teenage unemployment, remained at or in double-digits for the majority of Obama's presidency.

Unemployment has never included those who aren't looking for work. No one changed how that rate was computed. You are thinking of the labor force participation rate. That's unchanged since 2014.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Unemployment has never included those who aren't looking for work. No one changed how that rate was computed. You are thinking of the labor force participation rate. That's unchanged since 2014.

Some on this board used to love posting about the LFPR and the national debt. That don't do it much any more.

 

[bamaEER]

Some on this board used to love posting about the LFPR and the national debt. That don't do it much any more.

And Biff floated a $4.5T budget. Obama's biggest was $4.1T.

...and crickets

 

[TarHeelEer]

Some on this board used to love posting about the LFPR and the national debt. That don't do it much any more.

I had ignored this thread until now. I guess I lost my red X at the bottom of my sig. That was as much for B&R as it was for my personal interest in the debt. I dislike this year's budget.

 

[atlkvb]

Unemployment has never included those who aren't looking for work. No one changed how that rate was computed. You are thinking of the labor force participation rate. That's unchanged since 2014.

The number of folks who were out of the work force (looking or not) was the LFPR, and as more people weren't counted as "out of work" the unemployment rate correspondingly dropped.

You are correct, they used to count those folks as part of the unemployed work force, but that changed under Obama as the effort was on to reduce the number of workers counted in the labor force in order to reduce the number of "unemployed".

If the econony was barely growing above 1% on average, how is it that the overall numbers of unemployed kept shrinking?

Meanwhile that number...the Labor force participation rate kept growing as the unemployment rate went down. Why?

 

[mule_eer]

The number of folks who were out of the work force (looking or not) was the LFPR, and as more people weren't counted as "out of work" the unemployment rate correspondingly dropped.

You are correct, they used to count those folks as part of the work force, that changed under Obama as the effort was on to reduce the number of workers counted in the labor force in order to reduce the number of "unemployed".

If the econony was barely growing above 1% on average, how is it that the overall numbers of unemployed kept shrinking?

Meanwhile that number...the Labor force participation rate kept increasing as the unemployment rate went down. Why?

That's always how the unemployment rate was computed. You are trying to make it sound like this was a special Obama formula. It wasn't. Also, the LFPR is unchanged since 2014. How is it that the unemployment rate is another half percent lower than when Trump took office, the LFPR is unchanged, and Trump has done something special and spectacular with the economy? I'm not denying that the economy is good. I'm saying that it was improving for a long time. It is still impoving. That's good news, but I don't think it's all due to some new policy.

 

[bamaEER]

I'm saying that it was improving for a long time. It is still impoving. That's good news, but I don't think it's all due to some new policy.

Trumpublicans are really starting to push the notion that the economy only turned around since Trump went into the WH.

Wrong.

 

[atlkvb]

That's always how the unemployment rate was computed. You are trying to make it sound like this was a special Obama formula. It wasn't. Also, the LFPR is unchanged since 2014. How is it that the unemployment rate is another half percent lower than when Trump took office, the LFPR is unchanged, and Trump has done something special and spectacular with the economy? I'm not denying that the economy is good. I'm saying that it was improving for a long time. It is still impoving. That's good news, but I don't think it's all due to some new policy.

There are fewer now counted as "refusing to look" For instance as jobless claims continue to drop, those folks are removed from the unemployed ranks who are no longer counted in the LFPR even if they are still not working. The Labor department did adjust how the unemployed were counted during the Obama years. Part time workers were counted as full time. (more than 20 hrs a week) sub contractors or temp workers were counted as full time employed, seasonal hires were counted as permanent full time replacements...they monkeyed with those numbers all the time because real full time jobs weren't being added in the numbers sufficient to drop the unemployment rates as dramatically as the statisistics were showing.

 

[atlkvb]

Trumpublicans are really starting to push the notion that the economy only turned around since Trump went into the WH.

Wrong.

There is nothing even approaching Obama's economy that compares to the performance we are seeing now. Obama never presided over 2 straight quarters of plus 2.5% GDP. Trump's already had 3 straight and is approaching 4% for the current quarter!

Obama never got even near 3%. WTF are you talking about?

 

[atlkvb]

That's always how the unemployment rate was computed. You are trying to make it sound like this was a special Obama formula. It wasn't. Also, the LFPR is unchanged since 2014. How is it that the unemployment rate is another half percent lower than when Trump took office, the LFPR is unchanged, and Trump has done something special and spectacular with the economy? I'm not denying that the economy is good. I'm saying that it was improving for a long time. It is still impoving. That's good news, but I don't think it's all due to some new policy.

I simply disagree. Businesses aren't operating under the same regulatory environment, we don't have the same tax structure even consumer and business confidence is changed.

This is NOT Obama's economy nor a continuation of his economic policies. Hell the individual/employer mandate on the ACA has been repealed! That's HUGE just by itself!

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[dave]

Second, nearly 100% of politicians are more concerned about their reelection than anything else.

This is most certainly a truth.

Since that is clear to all of us how do we then feel about one side declaring the other racist and their side being the knight born to save their entire race from the evil racist opposition.....

 

[atlkvb]

This is most certainly a truth.

Since that is clear to all of us how do we then feel about one side declaring the other racist and their side being the knight born to save their entire race from the evil racist opposition.....

Conservatives do not accuse those who vote Democrat of being "racist". Just stupid.