Boomboom...

[atlkvb]

Most dont need help for things they need, they need help so they can have & do things they cant afford. More people than I care to say I know get government assistance & spend there own money on vacation & toys . People believe they have the right to be rich .... you only have the right to try & be rich

True compassion is best measured by how few people need the Government's "help".

The more self sustaining folks we have the better off as a society we are. Leftists see that equation exactly opposite. The more desperate & destitute folks in need of handouts from Government are, the happier Leftists get.

 

[roadtrasheer]

True compassion is best measured by how few people need the Government's "help".

The more self sustaining folks we have the better off as a society we are. Leftists see that equation exactly opposite. The more desperate & destitute folks in need of handouts from Government are, the happier Leftists get.

Democrats need needy people to survive. In order for Democrats to succeed & have a strong central government they have to make people believe they need the government.

 

[Boomboom521]

Maybe it wouldn't be such an eye sore if we weren't giving these benefits to illegal foreign nationals and giving them the right to vote in our country?

Maybe if there wasn't a push from the left to call it "voter suppression" to require voter IDs?

Some of us can put two and two together.

Open the borders and incentivize people from all over the world to come here illegally. Spread them around the country, in the cover of night, especially to Red states. Give them all of those benefits you just mentioned, paid for by tax-paying citizens. Free housing, welfare, education...etc. Talk about incentives.

Federal take over elections from the states.

Why is the left pushing for all of that? Take your blinders off.

I will agree that the best thing for our nation right not is to compromise on the voter ID laws. That voice deserves attention. The rest of what you said? Yeah, I dont think it is that simple to produce voters in that manner.

 

[Boomboom521]

The problem here is, they aren’t temporary. In a large percentage, they create generational dependency.

And the left is only increasing them and the bureaucracy needed, which creates more in the cycle and then more bureaucracy.

Cut em loose or evolve it to work requirements like the CCC used to be. Time phase it, here is a 6 months safety net, after 6 months, you can sign up to work at X or you don’t get your check. You want Government assistance? You work for it.

I would agree. 6 months seems adequate, but still a little short, imo. I would like to see better management, more efficiency, and that means less bureaucracy. Private executives could do the nation a service by running for office, serving a term or two to help but things in order, and never serving again. Term limits, i guess.

 

[Boomboom521]

People like boom makes me laugh. I have a very generous heart, my whole family does . People like him cant understand people get what they give & if they want more they can work more , there is some who does need help & a system to help those is a wonderful thing. I dont feel one bit sorry for several family members having nothing, they have nothing by choice. We all had the exact same opportunities & some had more than most but didn't make good choices, not my fault or mark zuckerberg's fault.

Exactly. It reminds me of my days in college. Several of my friends went to college with me. All were given the opportunity to go by government loans and one of them went totally for free based on the color of his skin. Once there, they all chose to go to the bar every night while most nights I stayed behind and studied. All of them failed out. I graduated. Should they earn in pay what I earn? To me, they had the same equal opportunity to get what I eventually did. It was their poor choices. It wasn’t racism. It wasn’t sexism. It wasn’t privilege. It was poor choices. As I always say, it’s taking Personal responsibility. Msm and Democrats cannot comprehend that.

The saying: when you’re young you think: “if you vote Republican, you dont have a heart” and when you mature you think: “if you vote democrat, you dont have a brain” ????

I can dig it, but i think the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

 

[atlkvb]

One thing I've always favored both as a means to wean folks off government dependency and make temporary social welfare more efficient is means testing. Not strictly by one's need for immediate financial assistance either (at one time or another we can all use a little financial help right?) I'm suggesting folks asking for help prove there are no other available means.

For instance, a disability. Permanent? Ability to work? Any restrictions? Family? Church? Any possibilities there besides asking the taxpayers to fill whatever financial void an applicant asking for assistance is temporarily facing?

Also to discourage long term chronic dependency which leads to laziness, I'd favor those receiving public assistance begin paying a portion of it back once they recover. The less aid you get, the less you'd have to repay. Long term dependency generates debt obligations to taxpayers with interest.

Again, the whole idea is to discourage coming first to taxpayers asking for help, and then to limit that assistance to as short a period as possible before one must assume their own personal responsibility for their financial needs.

 

[30CAT]

I will agree that the best thing for our nation right not is to compromise on the voter ID laws.

Wow. Many kudos to you!

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Yeah, I dont think it is that simple to produce voters in that manner.

It actually is. Increase the population, try to win the statehouses and the White House in 28. Benefit from the extra congressional seats and EC votes coming from the census. Seems pretty simple to me.

 

[roadtrasheer]

The saying: when you’re young you think: “if you vote Republican, you dont have a heart” and when you mature you think: “if you vote democrat, you dont have a brain” ????

I can dig it, but i think the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

Being compassionate & having empathy doesn't mean you have to be a fool.

 

[atlkvb]

Being compassionate & having empathy doesn't mean you have to be a fool.

Exactly! The first requirement asking for compassion is accepting responsibility for doing what you can do for yourself! Folks are always willing to help anyone who can't help themselves, but demanding someone just give you aid without your own skin in the game is not only foolish, but selfish.

 

[D. Denzil Finney]

So, you don’t like the results because it doesn’t fit your brainwashed ideaology? Good. Keep reading it. I’m pulling for your complete recovery.

That is a very perceptive and valid statement -- it applies to each of us regardless of our individual ideology.

 

[Boomboom521]

It actually is. Increase the population, try to win the statehouses and the White House in 28. Benefit from the extra congressional seats and EC votes coming from the census. Seems pretty simple to me.

We want to stop immigration?

 

[roadtrasheer]

We want to stop immigration?

Illegal immigration. Control who comes across the border

 

[Boomboom521]

Being compassionate & having empathy doesn't mean you have to be a fool.

Not at all, but I think everyone wants to most efficient gov possible, left and right.

 

[Boomboom521]

Illegal immigration. Control who comes across the border

But that was my point, i think it is a messy and uncontrollable strategy to flood the country with illegals, in an attempt to create LEGAL votes. Maybe as a strategy to receive funding from the businesses and corps that utilize the illegal workforce, but as a process to create votes?

Every American born in Cuba that i have met votes Republican. Dems are dumb, not that dumb.

 

[Brushy Bill]

You cannot be this naive. It's not possible.

 

[roadtrasheer]

But that was my point, i think it is a messy and uncontrollable strategy to flood the country with illegals, in an attempt to create LEGAL votes. Maybe as a strategy to receive funding from the businesses and corps that utilize the illegal workforce, but as a process to create votes?

Every American born in Cuba that i have met votes Republican. Dems are dumb, not that dumb.

Just think the government that you want to run our healthcare cant control our borders....let that sink in

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

We want to stop immigration?

Illegal immigration, yes. I don’t support human trafficking and enrichment of the cartels. I think supporting something that enslaves people and fosters an environment to enrich the cartels is bad. I’d assumed we were all against human trafficking, but no? People don’t cross the border without paying the cartels. They’re not just random people walking across on their own. They have to pay a “tax”.

I’m fine with targeted immigration based on a needs based system. We’re no longer a burgeoning country in need of tons of unskilled labor.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

But that was my point, i think it is a messy and uncontrollable strategy to flood the country with illegals, in an attempt to create LEGAL votes. Maybe as a strategy to receive funding from the businesses and corps that utilize the illegal workforce, but as a process to create votes?

Every American born in Cuba that i have met votes Republican. Dems are dumb, not that dumb.

Compare the numbers of Cubans vs. what comes across from Central and South America. It’s like 1000-1.

 

[Shirley Knott]

Wow. Many kudos to you!

You better find out which voter laws he references before offering kudos

 

[Gunny46]

For those that supported General Flynn you will appreciate. If you didn't care for him listen anyways. He talks about alot of things that has been common knowledge by many in the Military for 30 + years.