If you are not just trolling with this you are displaying an astonishing inability to comprehend a simple point. I'll try in good faith once again. What is your definition of an elite scorer? Do you contend we need elite scorers or not?
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If you were talking about McBride this would make sense. I see no scenario where anyone should be excited about Morton. He wasn't even a good mid major player. He was a minor rotation player on a terrible mid major team. He's an 11-12th man, practice player and emergency piece level guy. Easily replaceable by 100 other guys.
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The guy has 4 open schoolers left let's wait till he's finished before we declare this team DOA.
I actually do too. Athletically and skill wise I think we definitely upgraded from last year. I think people are way undervaluing B Hawthorne and Kam next year. Both are set up to break out, especially Kam. And Ndyie kid is really skilled too.
As I’ve said before I just worry about our physicality because what we’ve gained in skill it came in thin packages and today’s game has turned into a bruising mele aromas the basket. McBride may help there but need inte more big body down low.
There’s a pretty big difference in being the 6th man on an SEC team (like Aberdeen and Mo were) and being a starter at places like Furman and James Madison. Hard to believe you really think like that.
Physicality is one of my concerns too. We have a physical guard in Diallo and that's about it. McBride has some toughness, but I need some of these guys to step up as killers.
Says the pillow biterThe same garbage cries in every single thead like it gives them some type of LOD street cred. Funny bunch of pillow-fighters.
We shall see. I never said I expect it, I said the current roster has things year 1 didn't have.
I just don't want Kansas to pass us in wins, I want Kentucky to win every game, some fans want him to lose & get fired, I don't see how any true Kentucky fan could ever root for them to lose.
Márcio Henrique da Costa Santos is a brazilian born 23 years old that will be 24 in November. That‘s important to know because of the potential new ncaa eligibility rule. Uk will need to get him cleared asap.
he played professional basketball for 8 years(6 in Brazil , one in Germany and one Israel). It will be easier for him to adjust to life in USA, ncaa and sec basketball because he already moved twice away from his culture.
he is not going to be rattled by the away atmosphere in sec, which it feel like a walk in the park vs the atmosphere in eurolegue or Israel.
he went tried for nba in 2023 , went undrafted and played 5 games for summer for the hawks.
baskeball wise, at 6’8 he is rather undersized for center , but has decent athletic abilities. Skills wise he has a little but of everything, can pass, shoot some, decent footwork in the paint, and decent rebounding and blocking shots.
At this point , he is a more rounded player because of experience than MM .
here some video s from brazil time:
from Germany where the team played a lot of zoom action, which probably caught MP eye.
from Maccabi in Israel:
he is better that Jela and he will integrate better in Pope offense . A little undersized but decent athletic abilities. i am hoping he can be a poor man Broome provided to Auburn or Boozer for Duke on MP offense.
he played professional basketball for 8 years(6 in Brazil , one in Germany and one Israel). It will be easier for him to adjust to life in USA, ncaa and sec basketball because he already moved twice away from his culture.
he is not going to be rattled by the away atmosphere in sec, which it feel like a walk in the park vs the atmosphere in eurolegue or Israel.
he went tried for nba in 2023 , went undrafted and played 5 games for summer for the hawks.
baskeball wise, at 6’8 he is rather undersized for center , but has decent athletic abilities. Skills wise he has a little but of everything, can pass, shoot some, decent footwork in the paint, and decent rebounding and blocking shots.
At this point , he is a more rounded player because of experience than MM .
here some video s from brazil time:
from Germany where the team played a lot of zoom action, which probably caught MP eye.
from Maccabi in Israel:
he is better that Jela and he will integrate better in Pope offense . A little undersized but decent athletic abilities. i am hoping he can be a poor man Broome provided to Auburn or Boozer for Duke on MP offense.
We have lost the wins record before.. this really isnt as big of a deal as you think it is.
What were we missing last year the most? Backup point guards. This is a solid pickup.
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Promise I'm not trolling you. So for ELITE from what I see right now, we don't have that player who can go get his every day/night. We don't have that player, when you ask yourself who would you want to take the last shot to win the game. Scoring at a high clip but being efficient, player that can score it at all 3 levels.
People shoot crap at their a$$es on these board all the time. The perpetually depressed cannot be objective. It would be great to have a basketball conversation without the redundant trolling.
Let’s try.
The assumed starters on this team will still be relatively young, except for Diallo. Here is best case scenario:
PG - Diallo works his butt off knowing this may be his last year and he wants it to be his best. He is a very good PG. If he has his best year, we will all be happy.
SG - Wilkins does not have a soph slump and takes a leap. If that happens, he will be on NBA radars.
WF- Kam seemed to be getting it together when he got hurt last season. He has SEC experience now. He was dubbed an NBA prospect this time last season. If he puts what he learned into getting better, he could be seen as a second round prospect.
WF - B Hawthorne. If last year’s class was not so freaking talented, Hawthorne would have been a McDee. Seeing guys like Allen at Santa Clara wisely take a RS to build and improve gives me hope that Hawthorne will be the surprise of this team.
PF - McBride and NDiaye. NDiaye could be a real thrill ride or a frustrating matador. These guys together probably give us a combined solid 4. Probably overall better than last year at the spot. Santos could possibly play here, as well, if he signs.
C - Moreno needs to improve his game and his body. If he does that, he could be a first round NBA draft pick next season. Perhaps lottery pick.
Wilkins looked weak in video on defense but seems to handle contact well on offense.
Sounds just like last season.....and we all know how that ended....PATHETIC.
This is one opinion of our portal haul so far. 
27 wins? So with Pope’s least talented roster, going back to his 1st season at BYU, he’s going to get to 27, with a loaded SEC, and 5-6 other non conference games that’s almost guaranteed losses, when the guy has only won 25 games once (Covid year) in his entire career, going back before BYU?
Micro-dosing is your friend! You just can’t go wading into 3-5 grams of the stuff, likes it’s candy, crazy stuff might start ending up being posted here
So you are insisting that scoring average is not indicative of anything and this must be determined by subjective measure based on total opinion? If objective facts or numbers are not to be considered then any logical conclusion to this debate is not really possible. I can advocate for the abilities of current players but you have obviously made up your mind they aren't good enough and nothing I say will change that so why bother?
Can you at least finally concede the logic that based on scoring average the 2012 team is proof that you do not truly need multiple elite scorers (which was the claim that started all of this) to compete at a high level? The 2012 team averaged 77.4 ppg. Do you honestly believe this upcoming team does not have a legitimate chance to even be near that number? The last two seasons have been 84.4 and 80.5.
What truly set the 2012 team apart was the defense holding opponents to 60.6 ppg. If you were arguing that we have little chance of matching that or even getting anywhere near that I would have no argument. That was never what this discussion was about however. It has all been about the singular claim that you must have multiple elite scorers.
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I don't get the big deal with keeping an all time wins record. Winning Percentages is what the records books promote...and UK is solid there. I mean I guess St Augustus Gloop college could have started playing basketball in 1518, and cleaned a ton of clocks to hold the all time wins record and lost a bunch to be at .485
The 2012 team had it all they didn’t need ELITE scoring they had it all agree defense was SUPERIOR. You comparing any of these players against AD, MJG, Lamb, jones, Teague and Miller would get smoked by 25 plus on a bad night. You’re not even comparing the same thing. Just compare the greatest Bulls Team to the worse Bulls team.
I have never compared these players to those players in any way. That is total delusion on your part. At least you finally admitted that you do not indeed need multiple elite scorers to compete at a high level. That was after all my entire point and you just conceded it even though you didn't seem to realize it. Trying to invoke the Bull's is just foolish nonsense on your part. Are you going to argue that Jordan did not qualify as an elite scorer?
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You are comparing the 2012 NCAA champion team against this team. You did bring up AD and elite is anyone who can get their anytime the starting 5 again would hammer this team.
you are comparing a fourth degree burn 2012 team to a little blister to next years team
I never compared them. The claim was made that you had to have multiple elite scorers to compete at a high level. I pointed out that was not true unless you considered 12.3-14.2 ppg elite scorers. I have spelled this out repeatedly. It should not be that difficult to understand. Can you comprehend that I had to pick a highly successful team to meet the criteria of the initial claim? That team was the most obvious that immediately came to mind.
To state this as simply as possible using the 2012 team as an example of a highly successful team that did not require elite scorers is in no way making a comparison to our upcoming team. It simply dispelled one specific claim.
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Diallo is going to be a Junior for UK. He was in the Cooper Flagg class. So he could play 2-3 years more of college basketball depending on the 5 in 5 rule change.
Elite players can get there’s ANY TIME and you did compare you are absolutely the most Narcissistic person o have ever encountered. Just remember all this when the season begins against real competition not the fluff teams
I don't think you even know what that term means. It is not my fault that a very simple point has repeatedly gone over your head for days. You guys are the one's that determined they had no elite scorers not me. I even tried to concede that they could in fact be considered elite scorers and was immediately chastised. I don't know what it is you want me to remember when the season starts as I have not actually made any claims. Whatever actually occurs this season has no bearing on the simple point that I made.
You seem to think that applying logic and trying to hold the debate to that standard equals narcissism.
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Elite it’s a combo of skill, IQ, scoring, defense it’s the ultimate basketball player with a variety of these plus many others. Again I personally don’t see it with this team.
While I strongly prefer we land a volume three point maker to be the third guard/wing. I can probably live with Morton as the 5th after Wilkens, Diallo, Kam, and Hawthorne if it comes to it.
He'd hopefully just would pitch in about 15 mintues or so spelling the other two guards with occasional spot minutes covering foul trouble or gimpyness at the 3 even if bumps one of the others up.
He has at least sort of jeweled himself up a bit over his carrer so maybe he can take a little step again and more or less give similar deficiency in the SEC as a role guy.
I don't think anyone is pitching a star or anything here but I don't think it takes much squinting to see a solid relief guard that makes his free throws, can handle the ball solidly and doesn't stop it, and can make a couple threes for us.
Not sure I would use the term "BOOM" to describe this committment. It is a muffled "pop" at best. This is a fella we are bringing in to occupy the 11th-15th spots on the roster. He's a guy that will get very limited clock and can hopefully knock down an open three here and there. But a significant contributer? No.
Elite wasn't the term I was referring to it was narcissist. I would have thought the last sentence which I isolated for you would have made that clear enough. Are you having an emotional meltdown when you read these posts or something?
Can we both agree we hope Pope needs to succeed next year with what he has signed and recruited or it’s over. I mean come on Paul any of us on this site wouldn’t miss on 30 plus recruits
The second sentence was not necessary to throw in there but as for the first one I am happy to agree and let things subside for now.
Good lord Paul anyone with a pulse couldn’t miss on this many recruits come on man. Really just realize unfortunately he wasn’t ready for this.