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QuaoarsKing

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The US=Hotel California. Got it. So an individual can leave, but not a group of individuals. What are your thoughts on CHOP/CHAZ/whatever the name de jour?

Obviously they're grandstanding idiots. Did you actually think I would have a different opinion?

I don't think they're really comparable to the CSA though since it's a few week stunt rather than an actual attempt to form a separate country.
 

WilCoDawg

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I don’t know. They seem pretty serious to me. And they’re only being emboldened by the lack of pushback from the authorities.
 

Hump4Hoops

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They turned their backs on the US to preserve slavery. Traitors.

So how were they “traitors” to the US? They seceded. They didn’t betray the US. It’s no different than those pushing for Kalifornia’s succession. Or Vermont. Are those people traitors too? Should they be hanged at the gallows for treason?

"Kalifornia" is childish and only takes away from your post.

Average citizens "pushing for" succession is free speech, no matter how silly you or I believe it to be. It's also not treason and no one should be hanged for it, but you are fully aware of this. Using hyperbole as a substitute for a real argument is your shtick.
 
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SheltonChoked

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So how were they “traitors” to the US? They seceded. They didn’t betray the US. It’s no different than those pushing for Kalifornia’s succession. Or Vermont. Are those people traitors too? Should they be hanged at the gallows for treason?
They were Traitors because they committed treason. They did betray the US.

If they were not traitors, why were they pardoned for Treason?

President Andrew Johnson in 1868 issued pardons to all Confederate soldiers who fought in that conflict. The president extended “unconditionally, and without reservation ... a full pardon and amnesty for the offence [sic] of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late Civil War, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and the laws.”

Even more they all admitted it was treason.

Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. That means that, the people that were there at the time, that committed the act, admitted that the Civil War was treason. Making them Traitors...
 

thekimmer

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Might as well use the old magnolia flag which incorporates the bonnie blue as a canton on a white banner with a magnolia tree. The problem is this flag flew over the state exclusively during the WBTS. While something like this would have been readily accepted just a few years ago in today's world no flag is going to be acceptable that has any symbology remotely associated with the confederacy even though the initial issue with the CBF was its co-option by racist hate groups.
 

Hugh's Burner Phone

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I keep seeing supporters of the Confederacy tell people they need to read some history and have to wonder what history they want us to read. My guess is you want us to read the history that was invented by the widows of the Confederate dead when they started realizing that their husbands had died for a horrible cause. I have read Mississippi's statement of reasons for secession and know that the only reason the illustrious L. Q. C. Lamar put forward was that God had made Black people capable of standing the Southern heat and humidity so obviously God intended them to work in the fields and be owned by White people. Have you read it? I have read the Constitution of the CSA, which gives the lie to the BS that Southern planters were on the verge of freeing their slaves if Lincoln had just left them alone. Have you? I know that your user name was the first thing ardent racist Andrew Johnson took from the few recently emancipated Black people who had been lucky enough to receive it in the first place. Do you?

Quotes from Abraham Lincoln:

[FONT=&quot]I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists ... I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races.

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[FONT=&quot]My understanding is that Popular Sovereignty, as now applied to the question of slavery, does allow the people of a Territory to have slavery if they want to, but does not allow them not to have it if they do not want it.

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If I could save the union without freeing any slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that[FONT=&quot]

And then we have the Corwin Amendment which passed both houses of Congress and was ratified by some states at the onset of the Civil War.
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https://www.lib.niu.edu/2006/ih060934.html
 

WilCoDawg

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How about ask an honest question that your ****** *** doesn’t want to answer, and you’ll provided your typical stupid *** intellect?
 

WilCoDawg

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As if they really had any other option, you dumb 17. You really aren’t as stupid in person as you are on here, are you? Please say you aren’t and help us feel better about the world around us.
 

WilCoDawg

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Aren’t you the “slippery slope” lady? The one who said the rioters wouldn’t start going after statues of non-racist folks?

And how is people pushing for succession NOT treasonous, but doing it like the southern states is? I’m confused. Or is it just you double standard logic that’s nonsensical? I trust it’s the latter.
 

SheltonChoked

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They could have not committed treason. Or not accepted the pardon.

I’m not the dumb ************ saying that raising an army to fight the USA is somehow not treason.
 

SheltonChoked

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Ok. Because the reversed stars and bars would be an ugly ******* flag. And is more a csa symbol. Which if the whole ******* point of changing the racist white supremacy flag of Mississippi.
 
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It is not the flag of the Republic of West Florida. It is a flag used by the Confederate States of America. That is the primary association it has in Mississippi history. The Republic of West Florida existed for 2.5 months in 1810. If we're going to say that the Bonnie Blue Flag is the flag of the Republic of West Florida (and not a Confederate flag) because both are blue with a star we should also say that the Bonnie Blue Flag is the flag of Somalia.

If there is any doubt that the Bonnie Blue Flag is a Confederate flag, just look at the history of the CSA. When Mississippi seceded from the Union in January 1861 it was the Bonnie Blue that flew above the capitol dome. They didn't do that in reference to the Republic of West Florida, a republic that existed for 2.5 months over 50 years prior.

As far as compromise, no, we don't have to compromise on removing a Confederate flag as an official symbol of our state in the year 2020.
 

WilCoDawg

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TheY raised an army to protect their country. Damn, girl. Do you know anything about history?
 

WilCoDawg

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So how do you feel about the Texas flag since that’s where you live?