Bond was a crappy passer.....
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His passing wasn't the only thing high all the time he was here. He cost us the Georgia game when we played Hershel Walker here. Bond sucked as a passer and that's being nice.
Man, the refs were really trying to give that game to Bear....
..and the MSU defense just wouldn't let them. I remember hearing the story where Bear called a timeout, with 4th and 2 around midfield. Cooks and Glen Collins (I think) were taunting Bear, daring him to go for it, saying, "You're the Bear! You're supposed to go for it!"
They went for it and got stuffed. Cooks, Collins, Miller, George, Johnson, Gillikin, etc. that defense was a DEFENSE OF MEN!!
..and the MSU defense just wouldn't let them. I remember hearing the story where Bear called a timeout, with 4th and 2 around midfield. Cooks and Glen Collins (I think) were taunting Bear, daring him to go for it, saying, "You're the Bear! You're supposed to go for it!"
They went for it and got stuffed. Cooks, Collins, Miller, George, Johnson, Gillikin, etc. that defense was a DEFENSE OF MEN!!
You can make the same statement about every State quarterback and you'd be right ninety percent of the time.
But that was the era of the wishbone. That was in the middle of a spell where running backs won the Heisman twelve straight years.
But that was the era of the wishbone. That was in the middle of a spell where running backs won the Heisman twelve straight years.
Who in the world taught JB how to carry a football while running? He fumbled multiple times in that 80 Bama game and its a wonder he didn't fumble more. Never seen anyone carry the ball one handed about 2 feet away from his body like JB did.
Who recovered the fumbled snap on the last play of the game??.. if that game was played now, they would have given Bama the ball at the 1 with 3 seconds on the clock....
I think what actually happened.
The Bama nose guard slapped the ball. The refs just ended the game.
The Bama nose guard slapped the ball. The refs just ended the game.
It wasn't a fumble. They slapped the ball out of Hull's hand before he snapped it. That's why the refs left and didn't even try to see who recovered it.
Yeah those Bellard teams fumbled all the time. For instance, the 83 wind blown field goal Egg Bowl game. We had a 23-7 lead in second half and fumbled three times in a row, in our territory, giving them a 24-23 lead. Never should have come down to the field goal.
It wasn’t a fumble, the bama noseguard cheated and slapped the.ball before it was snapped. Hull had kicked his *** all day and he
was butt hurt. It should have been a penalty on Bama and game over.
was butt hurt. It should have been a penalty on Bama and game over.
Considering that Donald Ray King recovered the ball on the 1/2 yard line, I seriously doubt it.
Besides, if Alabama had recovered it in the end zone and the refs ruled that it was a legit fumble, they wouldn't gotten out of Mississippi Veterans Memorial Stadium alive.
Besides, if Alabama had recovered it in the end zone and the refs ruled that it was a legit fumble, they wouldn't gotten out of Mississippi Veterans Memorial Stadium alive.
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Correct. I heard the ref for the game interviewed about that exact play and said they ended the game regardless of who recovered. Had Bama recovered in the endzone they would have not awarded the TD. It was a dirty play done in obvious view of officials.
Well, it makes sense in a wishbone offense that you hold the ball like a loaf of bread near the line of scrimmage when you are deciding what to do with the ball but once you are 5+ yards past the line of scrimmage into your run its time to put the ball away. And I sure couldn't tell that Bond was looking for anyone to pitch to down the field in that 80 Bama game.
Bond had one game in 1980 where was 6-9 passing against LSU for 142 yards with a thing of beauty to Marty Mcdole for 69 yards and a td. We beat themn 55-31. Haddock had 90 + yards rushing. We beat them 5 years in a row starting with that game. My problem with Bond’s passing was not the over thrown ball as much as his throwing it in the dirt on an option sprint out at the receivers feet. He just didn’t have the touch control that a passer has to have. He was the same size and speed as Schrader; 5 pounds heavier and 4.5 speed. If he turned that corner you weren’t going to catch him. Probably his best game was beating Jim Kelly and Miami at Miami 34-31 then again 14-10 in ‘81. Think Kosar beat us the third game.
I remember the UGA game in 82....
He pitched to the trailing back about 30 yards downfield who took it to the house.
He pitched to the trailing back about 30 yards downfield who took it to the house.
He was a fantastic option QB and he had a fantastic year in 80 but he could not throw the ball with much accuracy. Of course that was hard to do with the pass rush bama put on him.
and if my memory is correct, first play of the game, a pass over the middle to David Ellis for a touchdown. Completely stunned LSU............Bellard caught them with pants down.....
According to one of our offensive linemen who was interviewed by Rick Cleveland for a story he wrote on the 25th anniversary of the game in 2005, the side judge actually did throw a flag on the last play against Alabama, but since we recovered the fumble anyway and the clock ran out, it was picked up and the refs left the field.
Bond was a great wishbone QB, but Sleepy Robinson was probably as good as Bond. Never will forget when Sherrill and Watson Brown installed the wishbone with Sleepy Robinson at LSU in '91, and LSU couldn't stop it.
He wanted to be ready, just in case. Bond did have a lot of turnovers, and it was always blamed on the wishbone offense, which I guess was mostly true. I cannot tell you how many times I thought Bond was tackled, and then some other guy was running with the ball because he had pitched it at the last second.
I attended the 1981 Bama game in Tuscaloosa (I was not at the 1980 game, although my dad was). A lot of people say that was one of the hardest hitting, violent games they ever saw. IIRC, there were 11 turnovers in that game; 7 by us and 4 by the Tide. Bond threw an interception in the endzone at the end of the game and we lost, 13-10, but we had every chance possible to make it 2 in a row. All the articles after the game just said that turnovers were the risk with the wishbone offense.
I attended the 1981 Bama game in Tuscaloosa (I was not at the 1980 game, although my dad was). A lot of people say that was one of the hardest hitting, violent games they ever saw. IIRC, there were 11 turnovers in that game; 7 by us and 4 by the Tide. Bond threw an interception in the endzone at the end of the game and we lost, 13-10, but we had every chance possible to make it 2 in a row. All the articles after the game just said that turnovers were the risk with the wishbone offense.
I completely agree. I was at that game as well. I’ve never seen so many players (both State and Bama) being carried off the field. It was like after every other play. Looking back, I think that game took a lot of wind out of sails.
If we had run the ball instead of trying to throw to Jerry Price, the odds are better that we would have scored and likely won 17-13. Also remember the SEC took a TD away from us earlier in the game.
It is funny to watch the video and see how they just kind of check the pile halfheartedly and then run off the field.
Can you imagine a game ending like that today and the officials not digging into the pile to make sure they knew who recovered it?
I attended the 81 game with my roommate and we sat about 10 rows from the field. Hardest hitting game I've seen. We messed around the entire game until the final drive. We caught fire and Bond led us down the field opposite from where we were sitting. No jumbotrons in that day so it was hard to tell what was going on down at the far end of the field. No overtime so we went for the win. Bitter loss. Both defenses were stout.
The visitors seats in old Bryant Denny were crap. Corner of the endzone and down low. We were in the 3rd or 4th row. Denny stadium was astro turf back then, and the feild had a huge crown down the middle. We couldn't see players' feet when they were on the other side of the field, and we couldn't see what was going on when there was a scrum for a fumble. I was told that Bear ordered up the huge crown because of the wishbone offense; the halfbacks would be running downhill in either direction. It was great game, but I felt like I only saw half of it.
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