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[Kbe4]

The platform change removed a lot of posters, but beyond that, there's just nothing to be excited or post about. It's a program in purgatory and devoid of news, optimism, or change.

Heck, there's 67 P4 schools and Schiano has had longer tenure than all but NINE of them. The guy never had the ability to hit next the next level, but in this age, he literally has no value proposition. Recruiting / discipline / academics no longer matter as much and he's god awful on game day / scheme wise.

Actually, I'm excited to see what Duff and Raymond can do this year. And what the new OL coach can do with the offensive line. And what the new staff on defense can do with the transfers and the up-and-comers. And, of course, what happens at the qb position and replacing AK.

 

[Ru-baby]

Let’s see if you see these answers to your question or you’ll either ignore it or call it FAKE ANTI SCHIANO NEWS:

-Unable to beat teams like Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and other teams at their worse who Rutgers are supposed to be modeling their programs after.
-Unable to beat a UCLA team who just fired their head coach and was in near shambles as they were coming into Piscataway that week.
-Calling that timeout vs Illinois
-Hiring Robb Smith for the third time after failing twice
-Running a fake field goal with a kicker who runs like a newborn cow vs the one Penn State team that Rutgers could’ve easily beaten.

Let's see. It first jumps out that one has been asserted to be anti GS so often that that's the start of a merits position. Appears some truth may be there when analyzing the merits.

The rest identifies only one game (Illinois) in which GS specific game day coaching cost a game, which was the topic. The Illinois time out is stated as clear as the Townsend drop as if it's accepted as fact when it is not. The dback play on the 4th down td was way more of a concern than anything else.

Beating Wisc Neb and Iowa. Not much merit there to the point. Do you really believe RU was not at a talent differential last year, especially due to injuries? Any of those wins would have been a win above the mean. Can equally credit beating all toss up games with equal or greater talent.

UCLA--Bad D but did you not see what UCLA did during a few week period, including PSU? The fact they had a new coach invigorated. To cite the UCLA game really removes the question of whether bias exists in the points.

Hiring Robb Sm--agreed bad decision. But issue was game day coaching and that improved the last few games when Smith relieved. His hire was a program management issue and failure-agreed.

Fake field goal--didnt like the call--did like it usf and nc st.

So yes some missteps. But some blame without foundation too. Anyone who has been around for a few decades will know what a uniquely tough job RU has been, what was done with limited resources, and that we all hope it to become less of that and more a p4 B10 looked upon job so GS is not the only one to lead it forever. GS has certainly made program issues like R Smith and some game day errors. But to paint GS as an unknowing and incapable football mind is just incorrect, and the bias shines through and the arguments lose credence when they are REPEATEDLY presented as such-especially where limited or no foundation.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Let’s see if you see these answers to your question or you’ll either ignore it or call it FAKE ANTI SCHIANO NEWS:

-Unable to beat teams like Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and other teams at their worse who Rutgers are supposed to be modeling their programs after.
-Unable to beat a UCLA team who just fired their head coach and was in near shambles as they were coming into Piscataway that week.
-Calling that timeout vs Illinois
-Hiring Robb Smith for the third time after failing twice
-Running a fake field goal with a kicker who runs like a newborn cow vs the one Penn State team that Rutgers could’ve easily beaten.

you forgot Noah Vedral, Gavin, and forgetting about Joe at the goal line.

there is a litany of things to look at

 

[RUTGERS95]

GS 2.0 Record against P5 teams with winning season records 2021-2025

2021: 0-7 (plus a loss to 1-8 in B1G Northwestern)
2022: 0-6 (plus 2 losses to 3-6 in B1G Nebraska and 0-6 Michigan State)
2023: 2-6 (1-6 in B1G) (win against a mediocre Miami in Bowl Game)
2024: 1-4 (plus losses to terrible Wisconsin and UCLA Teams)
2025: 0-7

TOTAL 3-30.
2.0 era- 2 signature wins are against an 8-5 Northwestern in 2023 and an 8-5 Minnesota in 2024

sickening

if you posted this on the round table you'd be called a hater for not understanding his difficulties

 

[RUTGERS95]

Forget about NIL, transfer portal, etc., I think this program is just not built to survive a Chris Ash era. That destroyed any momentum with fringe fans and killed all the Big 10 hype.

lol
you can't imagine what people say about Greg and Rutgers when you get of your bubble. Only the die hards remember Ash, all anyone sees is Greg losing

 

[Bueller]

He's just not that good a coach. He's got a record that makes it perfectly clear.

Its the offensive "strategy" - the "condom" offense I call it. RU in between the 20s racks up yards with running and lots of safety passing to the sidelines. Get to the red zone and RU just cant stop being safe and vanilla - extremely predictable. I always see teams toss shovel passes to runners up the middle (college and pros - Mahomes good at it). That would be a cardinal sin in the condom offense. Just three shots of safe and predictable and then kick a FG. Thankfully GS has some tush-push (safe and effective). GS acts like he gave the offense to KC but RU offense was the same before him. RU has had no red zone aside from moments from Rice/Sanu. DCs have an easy week prepping for RU

 

[tico brown]

you forgot Noah Vedral, Gavin, and forgetting about Joe at the goal line.

there is a litany of things to look at

Thank you

 

[RUTGERS95]

Its the offensive "strategy" - the "condom" offense I call it. RU in between the 20s racks up yards with running and lots of safety passing to the sidelines. Get to the red zone and RU just cant stop being safe and vanilla - extremely predictable. I always see teams toss shovel passes to runners up the middle (college and pros - Mahomes good at it). That would be a cardinal sin in the condom offense. Just three shots of safe and predictable and then kick a FG. Thankfully GS has some tush-push (safe and effective). GS acts like he gave the offense to KC but RU offense was the same before him. RU has had no red zone aside from moments from Rice/Sanu. DCs have an easy week prepping for RU

Ron Earhardt played for field goals, Greg too

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Let's see. It first jumps out that one has been asserted to be anti GS so often that that's the start of a merits position. Appears some truth may be there when analyzing the merits.

The rest identifies only one game (Illinois) in which GS specific game day coaching cost a game, which was the topic. The Illinois time out is stated as clear as the Townsend drop as if it's accepted as fact when it is not. The dback play on the 4th down td was way more of a concern than anything else.

Beating Wisc Neb and Iowa. Not much merit there to the point. Do you really believe RU was not at a talent differential last year, especially due to injuries? Any of those wins would have been a win above the mean. Can equally credit beating all toss up games with equal or greater talent.

UCLA--Bad D but did you not see what UCLA did during a few week period, including PSU? The fact they had a new coach invigorated. To cite the UCLA game really removes the question of whether bias exists in the points.

Hiring Robb Sm--agreed bad decision. But issue was game day coaching and that improved the last few games when Smith relieved. His hire was a program management issue and failure-agreed.

Fake field goal--didnt like the call--did like it usf and nc st.

So yes some missteps. But some blame without foundation too. Anyone who has been around for a few decades will know what a uniquely tough job RU has been, what was done with limited resources, and that we all hope it to become less of that and more a p4 B10 looked upon job so GS is not the only one to lead it forever. GS has certainly made program issues like R Smith and some game day errors. But to paint GS as an unknowing and incapable football mind is just incorrect, and the bias shines through and the arguments lose credence when they are REPEATEDLY presented as such-especially where limited or no foundation.

People can complain about this call or that call, but the ultimate root cause of all our competitive issues is money. It is difficult to win when you don’t have elite players in the trenches or at quarterback.

What people really ought to look at is the capital expenditure on facilities because that drives recruiting, as well as NIL, which is also important. Our level is way below every one else. USC in particular, spent $13M on their high school recruiting class. We spent a lot less. USC likely spent close to $40M on their entire football team. We may have spent as much as $25M, in a best case scenario, but it’s likely much less. We will see the difference in September.

Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Iowa are similarly outspending us. All you need to do is compare the or transfer class to ours. 6 wins is going to be a push because we don’t have enough defensive talent.

 

[Knight Shift]

People can complain about this call or that call, but the ultimate root cause of all our competitive issues is money. It is difficult to win when you don’t have elite players in the trenches or at quarterback.

What people really ought to look at is the capital expenditure on facilities because that drives recruiting, as well as NIL, which is also important. Our level is way below every one else. USC in particular, spent $13M on their high school recruiting class. We spent a lot less. USC likely spent close to $40M on their entire football team. We may have spent as much as $25M, in a best case scenario, but it’s likely much less. We will see the difference in September.

Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Iowa are similarly outspending us. All you need to do is compare the or transfer class to ours. 6 wins is going to be a push because we don’t have enough defensive talent.

Indiana says hello. In 1 year, a new head coach turned the team around. The turnaround has nothing to do with money or studs. Year 1 was built on transfers from JMU
#CoachingMatters
#ExusesAreOldAndLame

 

[DJ Spanky]

I'm old enough to have seen Burns and Bateman coached teams. They played in that little stadium against small-time schedules.
Playing Colgate, Bucknell, and Princeton every year is a little different than playing in the top conference in the country with games against Michigan, Ohio State, and Pedd State.

I've had discussions with people about the trajectory of the football program. Some of them are old enough to cite the 1976 team to me, blah, blah, blah. The difference is that up until the late 70's we played 9-10 Div 1AA teams and 1 or 2 1A teams. Starting around 1979-1980, the pendulum swung the other way, we were down to 2 1AA teams in 1981, and by 1986 we weren't playing any.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Actually, I'm excited to see what Duff and Raymond can do this year. And what the new OL coach can do with the offensive line. And what the new staff on defense can do with the transfers and the up-and-comers. And, of course, what happens at the qb position and replacing AK.

You and me both. I think our OL is going to be a pleasant surprise this year, for the first time ever we appear to have significant quality depth. In years past we've had a top 5-7 then a steep falloff after that.

As for QB, don't be surprised if AJ is named the starter. Hearing really good things about him.

 

[RU#1fan]

Put all of his eggs into the Wimsatt Basket so much that he didn’t recruit a legit FBS QB for a year or two.

Clearly should not be a P4 Head Coach.
We see a huge difference whether it’s in 2027 or the following season.

 

[RU#1fan]

GS 2.0 Record against P5 teams with winning season records 2021-2025

2021: 0-7 (plus a loss to 1-8 in B1G Northwestern)
2022: 0-6 (plus 2 losses to 3-6 in B1G Nebraska and 0-6 Michigan State)
2023: 2-6 (1-6 in B1G) (win against a mediocre Miami in Bowl Game)
2024: 1-4 (plus losses to terrible Wisconsin and UCLA Teams)
2025: 0-7

TOTAL 3-30.
2.0 era- 2 signature wins are against an 8-5 Northwestern in 2023 and an 8-5 Minnesota in 2024

3-30 vs. winning programs
No HC in modern history keeps his job. Only at Rutgers. lol

 

[Knight Shift]

3-30 vs. winning programs
No HC in modern history keeps his job. Only at Rutgers. lol

Thought I saw somewhere that if he goes 6-6 this year, he gets an extension.

 

[tico brown]

Thought I saw somewhere that if he goes 6-6 this year, he gets an extension.

It’s from the same person who said only way Schiano ever leaves is under his terms.

 

[Knight Shift]

It’s from the same person who said only way Schiano ever leaves is under his terms.