Blowing whistles

TigerGrowls

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I don't know HOW MANY FREAKING TIMES I have to say this. I don't give a crap about Hillary, Biden, or Obama at all. If they did something wrong, investigate them and throw them in jail. I have no problem with that.

Trump should be held to the same standard. It is NOT OK for an American President to enlist the aid of foreign countries to get dirt on his political rivals. It's a felony and everything. Period. Do you really think it's "just coincidence" that Trump is investigating Biden? Name 3 other non political Americans that Trump has asked other countries to investigate.

Google, Facebook, Exxon.. All these companies are doing really nasty things around the world and getting fined for it. But ODDLY enough, Trump ONLY investigates Biden. I'm just shaking my head here.

This has nothing to do with a campaign....you need to grasp that. Trump absolutely constitutionally and ethically has the right to ask that Biden be investigated. Running for President is not a get out of jail free card.
 

Lakeshow85

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Hes funneling the crooked money through his kids dude. Biden and others using public office to get rich. Trump made his money and went in rich and doesnt owe no one and is doing it for America. Trump cant be bought!
I really hope you are trolling. Trump got millions and millions from his dad yet he still managed to file for bankruptcy six times. Did you graduate from Trump university? So did you compare the Trump and Biden tax returns yet I mean every major candidate since 1976 has released them. I can’t imagine why one wouldn’t release them unless they were trying to hide something.
 

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appalachiatiger

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so the bidens are involved in this larger corruption campaign.

apparently, the demsmare saying that a presidential candidate is above the law.

so no one has interviewed the "handful" of first hand witnesses from the hearsay document, but they are calling it credible without any research.

that usually gets an F if a paper for a college class.
 

appalachiatiger

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hey did schiff say anything about the time he tried to get naked pictures of trump from russian operatives?

he didnt seem to think that was illegal.
 

wmnesbitt

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The Dems continue to grasp at straws. It was OK for Hilary to use a brit to fabricate a report about Trump and use the intel agencies to try and trap him and his staff in some Russian conspiracy all the while she was the one receiving all of the russian donations.

Biden brags about getting a Ukranian investigator fired to protect his son and his millions of dollars “earned”. Yet a second or third hand hear say whistle blower report is somehow more credible than a corroborated 3 agent 1st hand transcript of a call.

Hillary deletes and scrubs confidential emails from an unclassified non protected personal server, yet people freak out because Trump actually moved some conversations to a more secure server.

Trump may be a jackass. But there is no way Hilary or Biden should be given a pass for any of their admitted or proven illegalities.

I mean come on. This is just pathetic on the Dems part right now.

Put the thing to vote. Lets make it formal. And of course they wont, because then the Reps will be able to subpoena as well. And that will lead to opening some opportunity for this whole thing truly backfiring on the Dems.

It would be awesome if Congress would just start fixing crap like the inprovements needed in immigration and possibly gun control. I know they cant do that because fixing things will actually look good for Trump. And of course them.

And Schiff really just has a face that screams it wants to be punched.
 

TigerGrowls

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I really hope you are trolling. Trump got millions and millions from his dad yet he still managed to file for bankruptcy six times. Did you graduate from Trump university? So did you compare the Trump and Biden tax returns yet I mean every major candidate since 1976 has released them. I can’t imagine why one wouldn’t release them unless they were trying to hide something.

Trump is a multi billionaire. Quit acting ignorant please. Trump has many different businesses under the umbrella of his control and like any smart businessman when an individual venture is not successful he closes it down. You are just talking crap and more than likely do not even believe what you are saying. Just talking crap like a yellow belly democrat.
 

firegiver

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What’s it like when you lose the ability to think for yourself and believe nothing but lies and propaganda. Did you get these talking points from Hannity or Alex Jones. Just please don’t actually drink the kool aid when Trump gets beat next November. It might take you Trump followers a little while to get there but I’m confident most of you can eventually be deprogrammed.
Political tribalism is the fvcking worst. Trump in charge of the Republican party is only feasible with mob mentality and blind loyalty. They hate the other side more than they love their own works.
 

firegiver

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Trump is a multi billionaire. Quit acting ignorant please. Trump has many different businesses under the umbrella of his control and like any smart businessman when an individual venture is not successful he closes it down. You are just talking crap and more than likely do not even believe what you are saying. Just talking crap like a yellow belly democrat.
You have no proof of your claims because Trump wont release any evidence to prove the claims of his wealth. Be honest with everyone and dont pretend to speak with authority you dont have.
 
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TigerGrowls

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You have no proof of your claims because Trump wont release any evidence to prove the claims of his wealth. Be honest with everyone and dont pretend to speak with authority you dont have.

Just as you have no proof that he isnt a billionaire. I will state that I choose to believe that he is a billionaire. I know he is not taking his presidential salary and has it donated to worthy charities. Whatever the amount of money he is worth.............its a lot!
 

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Just as you have no proof that he isnt a billionaire. I will state that I choose to believe that he is a billionaire. I know he is not taking his presidential salary and has it donated to worthy charities. Whatever the amount of money he is worth.............its a lot!
He didn't say Trump wasn't a billionaire, he said we don't know. If you choose to just believe he is a billionaire pure on his word. Well, that says more about you than @firegiver
 

firegiver

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Just as you have no proof that he isnt a billionaire. I will state that I choose to believe that he is a billionaire. I know he is not taking his presidential salary and has it donated to worthy charities. Whatever the amount of money he is worth.............its a lot!
"People are saying trump is worth a lot". Owning hotels can make you wealthy, despite horribly failed other ventures. Can anyone name a successful trump business venture besides hotels and tv?
 

TigerGrowls

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"People are saying trump is worth a lot". Owning hotels can make you wealthy, despite horribly failed other ventures. Can anyone name a successful trump business venture besides hotels and tv?

Yes. I can name one.....President of the United States. Hes doing pretty damn good at that one.
 

TigerGrowls

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He didn't say Trump wasn't a billionaire, he said we don't know. If you choose to just believe he is a billionaire pure on his word. Well, that says more about you than @firegiver

Look up the word inference. I know your over arching genius can figure this one.
 

firegiver

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Yes. I can name one.....President of the United States. Hes doing pretty damn good at that one.
Being POTUS is a business venture!?!?! LOL ... Yah we all know he's making money off of being the POTUS. Thats the joke, you just stepped in it. Its illegal for a president to do that. But hey, you think the emperor's clothes look great and can't wait to tell us all about it.
 

TigerGrowls

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Being POTUS is a business venture!?!?! LOL ... Yah we all know he's making money off of being the POTUS. Thats the joke, you just stepped in it. Its illegal for a president to do that. But hey, you think the emperor's clothes look great and can't wait to tell us all about it.

The comedians are out tonight.
 

appalachiatiger

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Being POTUS is a business venture!?!?! LOL ... Yah we all know he's making money off of being the POTUS. Thats the joke, you just stepped in it. Its illegal for a president to do that. But hey, you think the emperor's clothes look great and can't wait to tell us all about it.

every single politician has leveraged their power for financial gain for themselves, their families, and or their friends.

what trump is doing is he is throwing big rocks in a swamp creating ripples, that family members and friends spread out from washington to new york that has gained unethical and illegal financial gains from the politicians and hired dept officials. alot of the guys in the press has beach houses and european condos in the balance if the truth gets out.

republicans and democrats alike are all guilty of fleecing american taxpayers.
 

appalachiatiger

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you know for years, many of who followed foreign policy always wondering why we always gave up more than we got.

now we know. biden and clinton families are not the only ones who committed treason for financial gain.
 

firegiver

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every single politician has leveraged their power for financial gain for themselves, their families, and or their friends.

what trump is doing is he is throwing big rocks in a swamp creating ripples, that family members and friends spread out from washington to new york that has gained unethical and illegal financial gains from the politicians and hired dept officials. alot of the guys in the press has beach houses and european condos in the balance if the truth gets out.

republicans and democrats alike are all guilty of fleecing american taxpayers.
Its like you live in a fairy tale fantasy world.
 

hopefultiger13

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This has nothing to do with a campaign....you need to grasp that. Trump absolutely constitutionally and ethically has the right to ask that Biden be investigated. Running for President is not a get out of jail free card.

OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. How many other American citizens has Trump asked a country to "investigate" for corruption? Please. Trump, crusading for international justice, one criminal at a time right?

Just like paying off that hooker during the election in 2016 was all about not embarrassing his wife and had NOTHING to do with the campaign.

If a Dem did HALF the stuff Trump does, you'd be freaking out. Trump was right. He could go out in the street and shoot someone down and you guys would cheer him on.
 

appalachiatiger

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OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. How many other American citizens has Trump asked a country to "investigate" for corruption? Please. Trump, crusading for international justice, one criminal at a time right?

Just like paying off that hooker during the election in 2016 was all about not embarrassing his wife and had NOTHING to do with the campaign.

If a Dem did HALF the stuff Trump does, you'd be freaking out. Trump was right. He could go out in the street and shoot someone down and you guys would cheer him on.


trump is making america great too!

i will take trump getting a blow job from a hooker for his policies.

democrats were ok with blowjobs with children by clinton. precedent has been set.

o remember kennedy used to sneak hookers into the white house.
 

appalachiatiger

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Being POTUS is a business venture!?!?! LOL ... Yah we all know he's making money off of being the POTUS. Thats the joke, you just stepped in it. Its illegal for a president to do that. But hey, you think the emperor's clothes look great and can't wait to tell us all about it.


How is Trump "making money" off being the president?

"Illegal to do exactly" what?

what kinda clothes you wear?
 

appalachiatiger

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"People are saying trump is worth a lot". Owning hotels can make you wealthy, despite horribly failed other ventures. Can anyone name a successful trump business venture besides hotels and tv?

have you ever failed in a business venture @firegiver ?

seems like hotels are a winner. a board game thinks hotels are pretty valuable.

tv- well dont most kids dream of being famous? do you tell your kids that being on tv is????

and the answer to your question is

drum roll

please.......


the presidency of the united states of america.

in the last 24 hours-

veterans can see doctor of their choice. out of the VA network. and the taxpayers, meaning those who have jobs, will be more that proud to pick up that tab.

seems like the chinese signed a very lucrative deal. sounds like an american agricultural expansion is under way.
 

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OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. How many other American citizens has Trump asked a country to "investigate" for corruption? Please. Trump, crusading for international justice, one criminal at a time right?

Just like paying off that hooker during the election in 2016 was all about not embarrassing his wife and had NOTHING to do with the campaign.

If a Dem did HALF the stuff Trump does, you'd be freaking out. Trump was right. He could go out in the street and shoot someone down and you guys would cheer him on.

Geez man. Trump asked the guy to reopen the investigation that had already begun before Trump was even POTUS and that Biden had shut down by blackmailing the Pres of Ukraine! Also, how is it that dems children can get away with ****, but Trumps kids get anal exams.
Yeah, he paid off a hooker from something that happened 12 years earlier. Doesn't matter what his reasons were. How is it that Congress keeps a 20 Million slush fund to do the same thing, but we rarely hear about it. At least he used his own money and not tax payer money.
Ukraine involves a lot more than just Biden. Pelosi' son, Mitt Romney's son and others, all making bank by propping up a corrupt gov't.
If a dem did half the stuff Trump does...
The reason the dems are freaking out now is because we are about to find out what the dems, (and some repubs) were doing. Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strzock, Page, the Ohrs and on and on. That's right. They used foreign intel assets to set up Trump associates to overthrow a duly elected POTUS; when they couldn't beat him fair and square.
 
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appalachiatiger

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Its like you live in a fairy tale fantasy world.


so now im back up the fantasy land comment. assume thats in response to me stating all politicians use their positions to enrich their families and friends.

you have no evidence that any politician has ever began a career and ended a career in less net worth.

or do you?

and hose caught are examples. im talking about those who finish without getting caught.
 

TigerGrowls

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OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. How many other American citizens has Trump asked a country to "investigate" for corruption? Please. Trump, crusading for international justice, one criminal at a time right?

Just like paying off that hooker during the election in 2016 was all about not embarrassing his wife and had NOTHING to do with the campaign.

If a Dem did HALF the stuff Trump does, you'd be freaking out. Trump was right. He could go out in the street and shoot someone down and you guys would cheer him on.

This is significant crimes committed by Biden and was related to the 2016 election as a sub part related to what Barr and Durham are investigating. This is part of the great awakening and draining the swamp. Trump doesn't need any help to whoop Biden's *** anyway.
 

appalachiatiger

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they were investigating trump while he was running for the office.

no reason that any of the candidates running now cant become part of an investigation.
 

hopefultiger13

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This is significant crimes committed by Biden and was related to the 2016 election as a sub part related to what Barr and Durham are investigating. This is part of the great awakening and draining the swamp. Trump doesn't need any help to whoop Biden's *** anyway.

Like I said. If this was business as usual for "justice warrior" Trump. Show me. Where has he asked other governments to investigate businessmen organized crime figures? I've looked and couldn't find a single other instance. Show me. Of course it wouldn't matter right? IF Trump did pressure a country to attack Biden and affect the election, you'd still be 100% behind him. He's above the law.

AsTrump said in that famous speech of his: I could walk out onto 5th ave and and shoot someone and not lose a voter.



You seem like one of these folks.
 
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TigerGrowls

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Like I said. If this was business as usual for "justice warrior" Trump. Show me. Where has he asked other governments to investigate businessmen organized crime figures? I've looked and couldn't find a single other instance. Show me. Of course it wouldn't matter right? IF Trump did pressure a country to attack Biden and affect the election, you'd still be 100% behind him. He's above the law.

AsTrump said in that famous speech of his: I could walk out onto 5th ave and and shoot someone and not lose a voter.



You seem like one of these folks.


Ok smart guy, you show me when a US VP took an interest or thought it part of his job to go and have a prosecutor from another country removed from office to the point of threatening to pull a billion in US aid? Biden is on video bragging about this and I know youve seen it. Anything related to a prosecutor in a foreign country is not US business and certainly not a VP level business, but somehow miraculously Joe Biden shows up to get this prosecutor fired who is investigating the company thats paying his sons 6 figures a month.....WOW!!
 
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Ok smart guy, you show me when a US VP took an interest or thought it part of his job to go and have a prosecutor from another country removed from office to the point of threatening to pull a billion in US aid? Biden is on video bragging about this and I know youve seen it. Anything related to a prosecutor in a foreign country is not US business and certainly not a VP level business, but somehow miraculously Joe Biden shows up to get this prosecutor fired who is investigating the company thats paying his sons 6 figures a month.....WOW!!

Good God man. How many times do I have to say it. I don't give a crap what Biden and son did. Put them in jail and I wouldn't bat an eye. MY POINT is that the President of the US doesn't involve himself in stuff like this. Trump certainly hasn't (except for THIS case). And again, he just HAPPENED to hold up the foreign aid a couple of days before he asked a foreign government 8 TIMES to investigate a guy running against him.

You will believe that thousands of Government employees are involved in a plot against Trump with no evidence but Trump's wild accusations, but you'd NEVER believe "straight shooter" Trump would break the law. Even after he essentially admits that he asked a foreign government to dig dirt on his political opponent. Which is against the law. So the best deal maker in the world (just ask Trump), didn't even realize that holding up aid for the country and then asking for a "favor" wouldn't look above board? The stable genius? The smartest man in any room. He knows more about deals than anyone (again by Trump's own mouth). But he didn't realize that? Right.

Trump could shoot a kid down in the street and you'd be here talking about what a bad person the kid was and probably deserved it. I'm personally waiting for you to tell me how Hillary and Obama got the Kurds killed by removing US Troops. Trump's going to blame someone else in just a couple of days. So get ready for that.
 

TigerGrowls

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Good God man. How many times do I have to say it. I don't give a crap what Biden and son did. Put them in jail and I wouldn't bat an eye. MY POINT is that the President of the US doesn't involve himself in stuff like this. Trump certainly hasn't (except for THIS case). And again, he just HAPPENED to hold up the foreign aid a couple of days before he asked a foreign government 8 TIMES to investigate a guy running against him.

You will believe that thousands of Government employees are involved in a plot against Trump with no evidence but Trump's wild accusations, but you'd NEVER believe "straight shooter" Trump would break the law. Even after he essentially admits that he asked a foreign government to dig dirt on his political opponent. Which is against the law. So the best deal maker in the world (just ask Trump), didn't even realize that holding up aid for the country and then asking for a "favor" wouldn't look above board? The stable genius? The smartest man in any room. He knows more about deals than anyone (again by Trump's own mouth). But he didn't realize that? Right.

Trump could shoot a kid down in the street and you'd be here talking about what a bad person the kid was and probably deserved it. I'm personally waiting for you to tell me how Hillary and Obama got the Kurds killed by removing US Troops. Trump's going to blame someone else in just a couple of days. So get ready for that.

You are trying to frame it wrong. The investigation is of corruption at that highest levels and has nothing to do with a campaign....good try though with left wing talking points. Just because you have heard of Biden only does not at all mean its the only investigation. Pelosi, Kerry, and Romney children have also been pulling money from Ukraine serving on boards.

OH....and please actually answer my question....What business does Biden have messing with a prosecutor in the Ukraine. The US VP doesn't even mess with prosecutors in the US.
 
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