This is unfortunately largely true. We are a knowledge based economy and what is most valuable now is smart, educated people in close proximity to each other. There are going to be some cities with all the advantages in the world that screw it up through bad governance (looking at you places like Chicago) just like places like Detroit screwed themselves, but the cities that are going to benefit from that will largely be cities like Raleigh, that are still significantly ahead of where we are now.
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This is unfortunately largely true. We are a knowledge based economy and what is most valuable now is smart, educated people in close proximity to each other. There are going to be some cities with all the advantages in the world that screw it up through bad governance (looking at you places like Chicago) just like places like Detroit screwed themselves, but the cities that are going to benefit from that will largely be cities like Raleigh, that are still significantly ahead of where we are now.
Chattanooga was basically stagnant for a long time, but then some years ago they made a concerted effort to make something of the city and now they're doing quite well. They have one of the best aquariums around, pretty good for a not-large city. Their cause is helped considerably by being on I-75, the second busiest Interstate highway in the eastern US. They have some good tourist attractions as well.
As far as I know, they've only released estimated state populations (and maybe not all of those), not yet the cities. County level will be next, then cities. But the time city estimates are released, they'll be close to a year behind the stated July data date.
Something to keep in mind is that good paying jobs won’t help people as much as a good education. This is the problem with uneducated people who win the lottery: they’re too stupid to be responsible with their money. So better paying jobs help, but without being educated on how to be a responsible, productive citizen, it’ll do no good. This is why MS has a ton of trailers with $50k trucks/cars parked in front of them.
I have no such urge.
And until you quit electing good ol boy, same ol same ol politicians, and get the confederate flag off the state flag, I wouldn’t hold your breath expecting an influx of industry and businessses. And honestly, I think the majority of people are completely fine with the way things are, and looks at the rest of the country as doing it wrong.
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That actually has been happening for quite some time. My son started there in 1995 and had a full scholarship based on ACT/SAT scores, and high school courses and GPA.
Definitions vary, but here is the Census Bureau's definition, best I can tell: https://image.slidesharecdn.com/the...91/95/southern-states-4-638.jpg?cb=1431367393
Unfortunately, you are exactly right and that is the main problem. Education is the answer and it continues to be placed on the back burner of priorities.
Nope, no urge to go back for me. I'm proud to have been born and raised in Mississippi, sort of like I hear people who are proud to have gone through boot camp. And part of the culture--the hospitality, the music, the good story tellers, the southern sayings and great storytelling, the underdog spirit--is very special to me. But the worst of the culture--the racism, the good-ol we ain't done nothing wrong why's everybody keep pickin' on us mentality that keeps doubling down on embracing ignorance and being proud of it--it's just nice not dealing with it on a daily basis anymore.
I am what you would call a religious Christian and I completely disagree with HB 1523. To me it is just politicians using Christianity as a reason to discriminate against people they don’t like. Just gives a black eye to Christians and Mississippians alike. Stuff like this law will kill our state. If you want any evidence look at North Carolina and that ridiculous bathroom bill.
Let me preface
this w the statement that idgaf what's on the flag, but some confederate symbol being on it isn't why it's tough attracting business & industry.
this w the statement that idgaf what's on the flag, but some confederate symbol being on it isn't why it's tough attracting business & industry.
Funny, everywhere I live there is the “bad place”. Some worse than others. Orange mound, south side, trinity lane, brookville gardens
And yet even orange mound has great people.
The woe is me crowd that says their city is bad because of a demographic is quite fine never coming into contact with it.
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I think he was referencing bruiser and 512taylor’s comments on Memphis.
I do agree with wizard. I feel a connection and responsibility for Memphis and I live in the suburbs. I’m not sure Madison residents feel the same.
Memphis does have positive momentum at the moment especially downtown and in midtown. Yes tons of problems, but good things are happening in Memphis’s too.
It also sucks the money out of local economies, which is magnified in poor, rural areas. In these areas, a large portion of the local economy flows through convenience stores. A convenience store topically makes 30-40% off most sales, they make 1% off lottery sales. Most of the time lottery purchases are not additional purchases, they replace other purchases. The lottery will not help Mississippi at all
From my perspective, most
don't say a city is bad because of a demographic. Moreso because of statistics.
don't say a city is bad because of a demographic. Moreso because of statistics.
That's not the problem. That's the symptom of the problem. The true problem is that the people with all the power and influence in this state have given up, and decided to collect what's theirs', and take care of their cronies. Yes, it's tough to move the state forward, and yes, it'll take working together with others who don't necessarily agree with them, but they've just said the hell with it. That mentality creates all this other crap, like the flag and what not, and that's what the sheep blame it all on. They don't even know who they are blaming or who they are mad at, they are just mad. And yes, I'm talking about people who believe just like you.
To fix it, you have to overwhelm them with numbers. To do that, people who have to move back to the state. Chicken/Egg.
"Education". I see that all the time. What do you want to teach people?
If you really don’t believe that’s an issue, then you must be living under a log somewhere,
People in power have given up? That’s hilarious. They certainly haven’t given up, they just haven’t given up the status quo. There’s a lot more in your post that I disagree with, but I’ll just focus on this.
Wasn’t there a SPS poster saying his Mississippi company was removing ‘Mississippi’ from all of their lettering and websites after the Anti-LGBT law?
MS’ economic development guys have it rough.
MS’ economic development guys have it rough.
The confederate flag is a visible symptom of a root problem we are ignorant enough to flaunt in our self pity. It's not easily fixed because those with capital and power in MS don't want to fix it (or it would be fixed).
Lack of a
educated workforce is probably way farther up the list of important factors, when compared to some dumb flag.
educated workforce is probably way farther up the list of important factors, when compared to some dumb flag.
Great thread
1. The socioeconomic statistics of this state have long been a challenge for the major universities here. And the population that attends those universities often seek employment outside the state.
2. The numbers in having 3 major universities in a state this small is a problem for MSU and OM.
3. The lack of professional opportunity or major metropolitan areas continues to hinder growth and opportunity.
Now that has been said:
I actually think the 25 year outlook for MS is very positive. I think there will be personal demand within individuals to seek areas like Mississippi. That said, Mississippi will have to do its part. And that is what worries me. But I do think MS will experience a wave of growth due to a variety of factors in the next 25 years. I could ramble about that a bit. I may explain tomorrow when I'm not intoxicated. Then again, in the morning I may read this and think damn what was I thinking.
1. The socioeconomic statistics of this state have long been a challenge for the major universities here. And the population that attends those universities often seek employment outside the state.
2. The numbers in having 3 major universities in a state this small is a problem for MSU and OM.
3. The lack of professional opportunity or major metropolitan areas continues to hinder growth and opportunity.
Now that has been said:
I actually think the 25 year outlook for MS is very positive. I think there will be personal demand within individuals to seek areas like Mississippi. That said, Mississippi will have to do its part. And that is what worries me. But I do think MS will experience a wave of growth due to a variety of factors in the next 25 years. I could ramble about that a bit. I may explain tomorrow when I'm not intoxicated. Then again, in the morning I may read this and think damn what was I thinking.
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The flag is a statement that reflects upon the people that live within the state. As someone that has lived outside the South since I graduated from State, trust me, it reflects very poorly. Of course a piece of cloth in itself is utterly meaningless but it is definitely a statement from MS politicians, and therefore the people of MS, that they are unwilling to do even the small things to clean up their image. It’s a middle finger.
Actually, Greenville, SC is great. Great quality of living and great opportunities as well. Cities from all over the U.S. are coming to study the things that have been done there to turn around the area. Last year it was one of the 5 fastest growing cities in the U.S. with over 50k in population. The downtown gets rave reviews from the press. The upstate of SC has a 3.2% unemployment rate and they can't hire people in manufacturing fast enough. The shortage of workers has driven up wages. It's actually the complete opposite of Mississippi.
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Since you obviously live in utopia why don't just tell us "truck drivers" exactly where that is. Oh and for the record 17 your condescending ***.
Ha....no please, expound more on this. I really want some positivity to go with this topic
Surely you have a greater awareness of the controversy over the flag? It might be a non issue to you, but it’s certainly a big point of consternation for a whole lot of other people. I agree, it’s dumb, and it would be easy to change and give the rest of the country and world a signal that the state is moving forward.
I’ll openly admit that I voted to keep it, the first time it was put to vote in 2001. I’ll also admit that I’ve matured since then and realize it’s time to get rid of it. It’s a symptom of the attitude of most of the people in MS, and as I said before, most residents are content to keep things the way they are.
Look, the State is last in virtually every measurable statistic, there’s a reason for that, and it’s not everyone else’s fault.
ed: bcash explains it very well.
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If you believe
that big companies, when contemplating moving to MS, weigh some dumb flag with the same importance as the lack of trained, skilled workers then I got nothing for you.
that big companies, when contemplating moving to MS, weigh some dumb flag with the same importance as the lack of trained, skilled workers then I got nothing for you.
Yes, please expound. MS is in deep kimchi, it is only going to get worse without visionary leadership, and I don't see that on the horizon.
Actually, as of 2014, most states (with "educational" lotteries) DO NOT ...
use the lottery $$$ to dramatically impact their educational system.
View this from John Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PK-netuhHA
use the lottery $$$ to dramatically impact their educational system.
View this from John Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PK-netuhHA
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Honest assessments of schools? Ask a consultant who goes to a school to ..
help the faculty and the local administration. Specifically, ask a consultant that works with schools in multiple states.
I know two, they both say the MDE (EL-HI) school rankings aren't very reliable.
(Caveat: I realize two is not a large pool from which to draw.)
help the faculty and the local administration. Specifically, ask a consultant that works with schools in multiple states.
I know two, they both say the MDE (EL-HI) school rankings aren't very reliable.
(Caveat: I realize two is not a large pool from which to draw.)
You’re fighting a losing cause. The country has moved past this mentality. Who’s being ignorant when one doesn’t think businesses will invest in Mississippi because of bathroom law and flag. It most definitely has and will continue. As a lifelong Republican, I’m very disappointed in our leadership and see no hope or change If Reeves’s our next governor.
Shut your ***** mouth. Greenville, SC is the best small city in the SE. I've lived in nearly every southerners state and now reside in Seattle. Life is better outside of MS for many many people. I used to be one of the "let's rally" MS people, but it won't change. It's perpetually going down the toilet bowl.
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