Big time WBB HC job opening perhaps imminent....

[thekimmer]

Buzz in knoxville is that UT faithful has finally had enough of Pat Summitt protege Holly Warlick after 7 years of underachievement. Rumor is the sacking could happen mid-season after dropping 4 straight SEC games and falling like a stone from top 10 to possibly unranked this week. Probably a no-doubter if this trend continues and they still have us, USC, and ND on their schedule.

Reading UT message boards Vic Schaefer is at the top of many of the fan's lists which is understandable as I would expect him to be high on anybody's list. Conventional wisdom though is that in deference to Summitt's legacy they likely would look to stick with a female HC. My impression of that is its the same kind of thinking that got them in the position they are in right now.

What does the pack think? Would UT go after Vic? If they did would Schaefer give them a look if they did come calling?

 

[dawgstudent]

I don't know why he would leave. He is the highest paid coach in the SEC and he has taken this program to the ultimate level.

 

[patdog]

Tennessee was the premier program in the country. Was. He's at a better program than Tennessee today and he has arguably his best recruiting class ever coming in.

 

[thekimmer]

I don't know why he would leave. He is the highest paid coach in the SEC and he has taken this program to the ultimate level.

I don't disagree with you. I just put it out there for discussion.

Vic built it himself at State similar to what Summitt did at UT. Whoever inherits the UT program will inherit a program that has enough of a reputation to help with recruiting but would walk into a pressure cooker that is still living too much in the shadow of a legend and this will make hard for any coach to live up to, much like the first few saps to follow the bear. The only reason UT has stayed so long with Warlick is it was a way to kind of vicariously keep Pat around though her long time assistant and hand picked successor. The next one in the chute won't get nearly that much grace.

 

[dawgstudent]

Congrats to Tennessee on their history.

 

[baddawggy]

Congrats to Tennessee on their history.

for anyone even to suggest Vic would go to Tenn is pure ignorance and needs there *** wooped worse than the refs at the saints game.

 

[patdog]

Congrats to Tennessee on their history.

That was my point. Their history is one of the top 2 programs ever. But they're not anywhere near that level today and haven't been for a long time. They haven't been to the Final Four in a decade.

 

[thekimmer]

That was my point. Their history is one of the top 2 programs ever. But they're not anywhere near that level today and haven't been for a long time. They haven't been to the Final Four in a decade.

True. They are still in the top 5 for attendance but they are now averaging about 9k per game down from about 15K in their heyday (in a 22K seat arena). I never really thought about it like this, but I can see where their history could also be a negative because no established coach (outside the PS inner circle) wants to work in that shadow and an up-and-comer won't likely be given the time needed. Just think about the person who has to follow Geno.

 

[G-Dawg]

I read VolNation and The Boneyard (UCONN website) quite a bit. And VolNation has had several posts that the powers that be will not hire a man to coach the Lady Vols. Sounds ridiculous to me, but where there's smoke.... who knows. Have read Nikki (Caldwell) Fargas, Kara Lawson, etc. The fans want a former Lady Vol. Like a previous poster said, that's kinda short sighted. Remember when Alabama football only would hire Bear proteges?

 

[HotMop]

Congrats to Tennessee on their history.

I remember when Louisiana Tech had a solid women's program, what happened there?

 

[Go Budaw]

That was my point. Their history is one of the top 2 programs ever. But they're not anywhere near that level today and haven't been for a long time. They haven't been to the Final Four in a decade.

I think Women’s BB has always been coach-driven as far as how the programs are perceived as historical greats. You ask anyone who the Top 2 Women’s programs of all time are, and everyone is going to say UConn and Tennessee. But is that really true? Or is it that Geno and Pat Summitt are just 2 of the all-time coaching greats, and those are the schools where they just so happened to spend the duration of their careers?

Basically, there are no Alabama football type programs in WBB that are going to be able to consistently win NC’s under multiple coaches due to resource / spending superiority. You get an elite coach, keep said coach, and you have an elite program. Much more simple formula than a lot of the other sports. I’d be curious to see a list of WBB programs that have made it to the Final Four under two different coaches. I’ll bet it is a pretty short one.

 

[Joe Schmedlap]

Reading UT message boards Vic Schaefer is at the top of many of the fan's lists which is understandable as I would expect him to be high on anybody's list. Conventional wisdom though is that in deference to Summitt's legacy they likely would look to stick with a female head coach.

Warlick is a man, baby.

 

[GloryDawg]

Maybe he likes where he is.

 

[thekimmer]

Now that you mention it.....

I think Women’s BB has always been coach-driven as far as how the programs are perceived as historical greats. You ask anyone who the Top 2 Women’s programs of all time are, and everyone is going to say UConn and Tennessee. But is that really true? Or is it that Geno and Pat Summitt are just 2 of the all-time coaching greats, and those are the schools where they just so happened to spend the duration of their careers?

Basically, there are no Alabama football type programs in WBB that are going to be able to consistently win NC’s under multiple coaches due to resource / spending superiority. You get an elite coach, keep said coach, and you have an elite program. Much more simple formula than a lot of the other sports. I’d be curious to see a list of WBB programs that have made it to the Final Four under two different coaches. I’ll bet it is a pretty short one.

I can't think of any that has done this. My first thought was Van Chancellor with UM and LSU but he never made it past the elite 8 with mississippi although he made it to that round 4 times.

 

[PineGroveBully]

He's already got a John Deere tractor, what else does he need?

 

[StarkVegas Steve]

Like most have stated I don't think Tennessee is the job it was with Pat. And even if it was Vic has built this program into a consistent top 10-15 program that is on the doorstep to break into that top 6 or 7 programs that regularly compete for NCs. The only job people should ever be worried about is when A&M comes open and I'll be honest it may already be too late. A&M hasn't been the same since Vic left. Now they'll throw a ton of money at him and they CAN and WILL outbid us if they think that's what it'll take, but I really feel with what he's built here he may never want to leave. I think if they'd have come calling in 16 or maybe even 17 he would've gone, but I really believe he wants to be here and bought into the idea if coaching here until he retires.

 

[Len2003]

I think she just signed a contract extension, but that might not mean much. I think she'd have to thoroughly disgrace herself by not making the NCAA tournament to get let go before her contract is up.

 

[StarkVegas Steve]

I think she just signed a contract extension, but that might not mean much. I think she'd have to thoroughly disgrace herself by not making the NCAA tournament to get let go before her contract is up.

She did, but I think by doing that it lowered her buyout. I could be making that up, but I seem to remember reading that somewhere

 

[Duke Humphrey]

And Larry Templeton too

Remember when Alabama football only would hire Bear proteges?

Nm

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

We can’t lose Vic. We are too fragile at the moment. Of course it’d be months ahead, but we will be too fragile then also.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

The only place I ever see Vic going would be back to TAMU to retire

 

[goodknight]

All I know is he just bought a big spread east of town complete with horse barns if I’m not mistaken. This is the house that Vic built, ie MSU WBB. Not sure the lure of the UT job is what UT fans think it is. I’d have a hard time believing he’d leave after what he’s personally built at MSU.

 

[13thEagle]

I remember when Louisiana Tech had a solid women's program, what happened there?

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[Misfit]

Considering they won the first ever NCAA women's tournament in 1982 and another one before the decade ended, "solid" may be a tad short.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

They should hire Dawn Staley

 

[Len2003]

Wow, they just lost to Arkansas. Arkansas is not very good. They aren't Ole Miss level bad, but they're on the rung above them. She might actually be on the way out.

 

[ToxicTimberDawg]

NM

DELETE

 

[Bulldogg31]

I read VolNation and The Boneyard (UCONN website) quite a bit. And VolNation has had several posts that the powers that be will not hire a man to coach the Lady Vols. Sounds ridiculous to me, but where there's smoke.... who knows. Have read Nikki (Caldwell) Fargas, Kara Lawson, etc. The fans want a former Lady Vol. Like a previous poster said, that's kinda short sighted. Remember when Alabama football only would hire Bear proteges?

So men need not apply? That’s racist.

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[PineGroveBully]

Seems like around 97-98 we beat a top 3 La Tech team. That may have been a year or 2 prior to Latoya Thomas coming on board. They definitely had a solid program back then.

 

[MedDawg]

Tennessee is no Delta State. **

Buzz in knoxville is that UT faithful has finally had enough of Pat Summitt protege Holly Warlick after 7 years of underachievement. Rumor is the sacking could happen mid-season after dropping 4 straight SEC games and falling like a stone from top 10 to possibly unranked this week. Probably a no-doubter if this trend continues and they still have us, USC, and ND on their schedule.

Reading UT message boards Vic Schaefer is at the top of many of the fan's lists which is understandable as I would expect him to be high on anybody's list. Conventional wisdom though is that in deference to Summitt's legacy they likely would look to stick with a female HC. My impression of that is its the same kind of thinking that got them in the position they are in right now.

What does the pack think? Would UT go after Vic? If they did would Schaefer give them a look if they did come calling?

nm

 

[thekimmer]

No, that's sexist not racist...

So men need not apply? That’s racist.

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Gotta name your prejudices correctly.**