Big Ten not done?
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I didn't think they were. I've mentioned Oregon (Nike) and Washington. probably not far off. Last summer I said I could eventually see up to at most 24 teams in a B10. First move to the west and then at the time of the ACC GORs expiration a move to the east that could potentially include ND.
It's a mini sports league with ultra premium inventory that can be chopped up among networks and would have inventory to satisfy Fox, ESPN, CBS, NBC, BTN and streaming.
Warren is a NFL guy and that would be sort of a mini NFL.
Oregon and Washington would be good additions. Lots of people saying Stanford and cal make sense…don’t see what cal brings at all.
I feel a very good chance for Oregon/Washington...less certain about Stanford/Cal. I think a ND could help pull Stanford in if ND wanted it.
Maybe 4? Oregon, Washington, Stanford, ND. Gets BIg Ten to 18. Then expand east, VA and NC? That gets 20
SEC poaches FSU, Miami, V Tech and Clemson to get to 20
that’s how I see it playing out. The ones left out form a 20-team league with Big 12, Pac leftovers
If the eventual end is 20 teams, I'm not sure Colorado would get in but if it were up to 24 then maybe.
I don't even know if majority would be enough, I'd wonder if it would have to be unanimous given the harm to those left behind.
Academics ... and the entirety of the state of California. It also collapses the conference and puts all of the remaining schools (Oregon, Washington, Colorado) in terrible positions because they are bad fits for the other superconference.
Well considering USC/UCLA left behind other Cali schools as of the news now, OU left Ok State and Texas left other Texas schools behind...I tend to think it won't be an issue given the history of other moves.
If a majority of the teams don’t want to be there, it’ll be tough to hold it together. It makes more sense for the B1G to continue taking AAU schools in new markets based on eyeballs. Think Stanford/Cal and Washington. Oregon/Nike is tempting and would probably get the invite too.
It's not that it would hold together long term but the financial penalties being so onerous would hold it together short term as in til the mid 2030s or so.
Colorado was a name being floated before the UCLA and USC news.
The top media markets that seem reasonable for the BIG to grab seem to be
LA
SF
Boston
Phoenix
Seattle
Miami
Denver
Charlotte
Raleigh
Portland
Salt Lake City
Do they make a run at the west coast media markets and have a true BIG WEST and BIG EAST
LA
SF
Boston
Phoenix
Seattle
Miami
Denver
Charlotte
Raleigh
Portland
Salt Lake City
Do they make a run at the west coast media markets and have a true BIG WEST and BIG EAST
IMO they were down the list from USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington..it would have to be a move to 20 now and 24 in total between the west and east expansion for Colorado to get in. Basically I could see them as option 5 from the PAC12 after those first 4 but even that I'm not as sure because of ND/Stanford connection and maybe AZ too.
Media markets will be irrelevant, more important will be number of fans willing to buy a streaming pass. This isn't 2010 when the Big Ten network was contractually obligated to be on basic cable getting $3-4 dollars per subscriber, whether they watched the channel or not.
This is something I mentioned in the other thread a week or so ago. Everyone assumed USC/UCLA joined at the hip and I agree on its face but didn't know if politics would prevent UCLA cause of the UC system and now we know they got over that hurdle. So if they got over it, I'd think Oregon/Washington and whatever else school in the country could too.
From an ESPN article:
"I was always of the opinion that UCLA couldn't leave Cal," a Pac-12 source told ESPN. "There's no more political state than that or system than that. That was very surprising."
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I wouldn't go that far. Too much talk in absolutes IMO. Media markets matter AND attractiveness of matchups and teams matter too. It all matters.
add Stanford ,California along with Colorado if the B1G wants to get to 20.
Utah could be the 20th, if the imitation Irish want to maintain their semi-independence in football
We'll see but you don't have to agree to accept the fact most cable companies wont sell cable tv anymore in the next 5-10years. They don't make money on it.
Yea linear tv is shrinking but I'd suspect it will plateau eventually and over time it will go the way of the dodo as older generations depart but you know YouTube TV, Hulu Live, etc.aren't much different and ad rates are probably affected too by the markets you reach.
No benefit of adding Cal, in my opinion. If adding Stanford
Cal is the bigger and popular NorCal school. I personally think they would never split up, but felt the same about Oklahoma and OSU. We live in interesting times.
BTW, Stanford's box office phone number is 1-800-Beat Cal.
package deal maybe. State says take one or none.
From an academic standpoint adding both of them would look good.
From a TV revenue standpoint, not so hot.
Sorry... i think ND has all but missed......
perhaps Nd/Stanford wb their very last shot..... and their arrogance won't allow it..
perhaps Nd/Stanford wb their very last shot..... and their arrogance won't allow it..
Missed what? A seat at the table? They will always have a seat at the table. Thing is finally circumstances of the college football landscape could force them to actually sit at someone's table now.
And they’d be right because whoever they call will take that call. It’s just a matter of them being willing and at the time of the ACC GOR expiration I think they will be forced. A tweet from Heather Dinich I posted didn’t even make it sound as onerous for them to leave now compared to other ACC schools but who knows. I always thought they had to join the ACC if they joined any conference before expiration.
Doubt it, as Stanford is not a state school.
Correct. The state would have no influence.
Stanford, though, may say this to keep rivalry intact. Who knows…
there goes another bad idea down the drain..
Now between Cal and Stanford along with partner Colorado or Utah ( long-shot) jumping on board with Oregon and Washington making a 20 program Super Big sized
IMO Cal/Stanford aren't high on the list. Stanford's lifeline would be if ND requested them and as a carrot but that's it
Oregon/Washington would be 3 and 4 IMO. I don't now if it goes as high as 20 now but I'd put Colorado/AZ/Stanford (because of ND) as next in line after if it did go that high.
I can see the State of California trying to block this(could only block UCLA) unless Cal is part of the deal or has a landing spot. Same would hold true if Oregon and Washington get invited. With Oregon State and Washington State being left out their State legislators may block any move.