Big Ten has Embarrassed themselves.

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They love being the first mover and the trend setter but this time they whiffed miserably when the 3 other big conferences called their bluff. They didn’t expect the massive pushback public ally and now they are embarrassingly scrambling to figure out a new season sooner. They are being sued by players and parents of the conference. High school football, travel youth sports are all able to be played in these same states. Totally clueless and leaderless. The presidents are as much to blame.
A black eye for the conference.
 

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There was absolutely no reason to cancel so soon - should have waited to see where this all goes (which no one knows right now but all indicators say late September we will see other conferences playing safely).

Whitmer made the call for obvious political reasons. The Presidents are weak and without Delaney there was no one to push back. No way this happens with Delaney in charge and the power vacuum created when he retired is real, damaging and costing schools millions.
 

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They love being the first mover and the trend setter but this time they whiffed miserably when the 3 other big conferences called their bluff. They didn’t expect the massive pushback public ally and now they are embarrassingly scrambling to figure out a new season sooner. They are being sued by players and parents of the conference. High school football, travel youth sports are all able to be played in these same states. Totally clueless and leaderless. The presidents are as much to blame.
A black eye for the conference.
It’s an election year don’t forget that aspect.
New poll out that says 75 percent of college football fans agree with the Big 10 decision to cancel.
So , if the actual % age is ( 75) explain why the ACC- B1G 12 and SEC are still scheduling for the season.... 3/4 of fans are in dissent but yet the non existent PAC and B1G are the only ones as of this moment waiting until a vaccine or additional testing improvements occur.... or is it because the vote ( 8-6 ) is from the actual state breakdowns by party in charge?
 
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They love being the first mover and the trend setter but this time they whiffed miserably when the 3 other big conferences called their bluff. They didn’t expect the massive pushback public ally and now they are embarrassingly scrambling to figure out a new season sooner. They are being sued by players and parents of the conference. High school football, travel youth sports are all able to be played in these same states. Totally clueless and leaderless. The presidents are as much to blame.
A black eye for the conference.
How are your Yankees doing, pal? You have been quiet in the Mets thread. 🤣
 

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It’s an election year don’t forget that aspect.
So , if the actual % age is ( 75) explain why the ACC- B1G 12 and SEC are still scheduling for the season.... 3/4 of fans are in dissent but yet the non existent PAC and B1G are the only ones as of this moment waiting until a vaccine or additional testing improvements occur.... or is it because the vote ( 8-6 ) is from the actual state breakdowns by party in charge?
It's from fans all over the country.
 

RUBOB72

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It's from fans all over the country.
Greg it can’t be 75% ... because most of the B1G and PAC fans want to play ... it’s a politics game... check the vote totals ( 8-6) and who runs those states in the B1G ...At this point I don’t care whether there is football, baseball, BB all I wish for is health and better days for the country ... Those are a crap shoot right now.
 

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New poll out that says 75 percent of college football fans agree with the Big 10 decision to cancel.

Do you have a link to this poll?

Also, I would be more interested in seeing a poll of 3-5 star prospects as those are the ones we need to convince it was the right call.
 

RUBOB72

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Greg this polling was done by whom , when and how many people were counted ... was it 10 k , 100k or 10 mil ? Anyone can say well the people want to shut it down...
 

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That's kind of dumb, because the Presidents made the decision, not the Big10 Commissioner.
You just proved my point. The presidents panicked and there was no leadership from the commissioner's office to calm them down. Delaney was a strong leader with capital to use as needed.
 
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No issue with the Big Ten Presidents deciding not to play Fall Sports (football included). They received guidance from their medical experts and the decision was made based on the information at that point in time.

With the Virus gaining steam on college campuses across the nation where some schools are sending dorm students home, I find it ironic that a school would consider a football player a hardship status, thus, can remain on campus to continue to play football. Other students are not permitted to live on campus, much less gather for activities, thus, the same treatment should also apply to student athletes.

We'll see if these schools playing football get through a season and play all their games.

Where the Big Ten has fallen down is in their communications. There's way too much bad rumors, speculation and false stories which leads the average meatball head college football fan to come to incorrect conclusions and pass it on. That's on Commissioner Warren and hopefully in the future he'll get better at building consensus, tightening any leaks, whether accurate or inaccurate, and overall more timely communications.

The rest of it is just an inconsequential side show (i.e. player petitions and lawsuits, a few parents showing up to an empty Big Ten headquarters to protest). The same player that files a lawsuit to play would also file a lawsuit if he came down with a severe case of the Virus, due to a football related activity, and it damaged his career.
 

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New poll out that says 75 percent of college football fans agree with the Big 10 decision to cancel.
Swing and miss.


"As we have previously noted, Atlanta, Georgia-based strategist Robert Cahaly was the only one who correctly predicted Trump’s Michigan win – and one of the only pollsters who predicted Trump would win the White House."

"So … where are swing voters when it comes to college football?
According to Cahaly, they overwhelmingly want the games to be played.
We see a large majority in Michigan – over 65 percent – of those that are undecided or unenthusiastic about their candidate, 65 percent are on the side of playing football,” he told Smerconish. “In Wisconsin it’s a little bit below that – it’s 55 percent – but it’s a significant percentage of those people that swing one way or the other.”
And why does this matter?
“In both states we show the numbers close enough that whoever wins those swings is going to be the winner of those states,” Cahaly said."
 

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Greg where is the poll ? myself and others want to actually see the numbers, where the poll came from and the number of people polled.I think you would agree it would help solve the # ‘s question if 75%.
 

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Swing and miss.

"As we have previously noted, Atlanta, Georgia-based strategist Robert Cahaly was the only one who correctly predicted Trump’s Michigan win – and one of the only pollsters who predicted Trump would win the White House."

"So … where are swing voters when it comes to college football?
According to Cahaly, they overwhelmingly want the games to be played.
We see a large majority in Michigan – over 65 percent – of those that are undecided or unenthusiastic about their candidate, 65 percent are on the side of playing football,” he told Smerconish. “In Wisconsin it’s a little bit below that – it’s 55 percent – but it’s a significant percentage of those people that swing one way or the other.”
And why does this matter?
“In both states we show the numbers close enough that whoever wins those swings is going to be the winner of those states,” Cahaly said."
This is why we laugh. Trump pays this guy, and the polls are rated C-. The guy literally is anti lockdown and not a non bias poster. You didn't dispute my poll from my A rated pollster. Sad!!!!
 

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Greg where is the poll ? myself and others want to actually see the numbers, where the poll came from and the number of people polled.I think you would agree it would help solve the # ‘s question if 75%.


2200 polled
 

RUBOB72

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Greg how many people actually were polled ? It could be 10 -100 10mil... Noah needs to legitimize his polling percentage by saying “ we polled 20 k fans in the B1G,SEC etc. hell anyone can put up a poll and say see... this what the people want or are calling for... polls are far from accurate as we all have seen and learned.
 

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Greg how many people actually were polled ? It could be 10 -100 10mil... Noah needs to legitimize his polling percentage by saying “ we polled 20 k fans in the B1G,SEC etc. hell anyone can put up a poll and say see... this what the people want or are calling for... polls are far from accurate as we all have seen and learned.
2,200 people
 

RUBOB72

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2,200 people
And so you accept 2200 as a way claim they don’t want to play... one thing we all have learned is numbers are manipulated by whomever needs to....this for me is a minute number to call it 75% of the country... Now perhaps 22 k would be more indicative of factual voting...
 

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They love being the first mover and the trend setter but this time they whiffed miserably when the 3 other big conferences called their bluff. They didn’t expect the massive pushback public ally and now they are embarrassingly scrambling to figure out a new season sooner. They are being sued by players and parents of the conference.

If B1G didn't shut they would also have been sued by players and family
 

RUBOB72

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Newsweek isn't MSM. Ir's a poll from morning consult a well known poster.
Greg : Newsweek lost it’s luster a long time ago ... most periodicals have lost readers and a way to have people trust their reporting and articles... At one time I would read like others the following daily...WSJ, NYTimes , Barron’s, LATimes , Washington Post, NY Tribune and then the internet occurred... and the world changed not for the better... I’m not saying you aren’t correct but it seems illogical the 75% of those conferences based upon 2000k pollsters.
 

RUBOB72

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Newsweek isn't MSM. Ir's a poll from morning consult a well known poster.
See you automatically assume someone doesn’t realize that... You need ... as you journey along the trail of life get away from constantly (at least on the surface) making it seem you are attacking every reply or that people are not as bright as you... temper as you have told me ( this angry old man) and that is good advice... but the poll figures don’t equate ...