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konaki

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I not sure I really need to post this but it's that quiet time for Nebraska football and thought I would get some thoughts on Nebraska personnel.

Better or worse in your opinion:

2021 QB group or 2022
2021 WR/TE group or 2022
2021 RB group or 2022
2021 OL group or 2022
2021 DL group or 2022
2021 LB group or 2022
2021 DB group or 2022

Coaches
OC Frost/ Lubick or Whipple
OL Austin or Raiola
QB Frost/ Verduzco or Whipple
RB Held or Applewhite
WR Lubick or Joseph
DL Tuioti or Dawson

I put this post in because for myself I believe this team has been upgraded top to bottom. I don't expect everyone to chime in for every question so pick and choose where you have the strongest feelings.

For this reason I think we finally have a breakthrough season as far as record goes. We played most every opponent close last year and that was with below average coaching in my opinion. Now that our roster and coaching staff have been upgraded I feel 2022 will be a good year finally for the BIG RED. lmo
 

TruHusker

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While it is fashionable to trash the departed coaching staff (I admit I was not a fan of Austin from day 1 just watching kids at UCF and Nebraska) I think to be fair, I will wait and see what is produced on the field.

Right now there is lots of excitement about new guys and new coaches, but is just fluff talk or not? We will see.
 

Redscarlet

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SF thought he could run the same type offense he ran in the American Athletic Conference..

He found out the hard way that the Big 10 had better defenses and he didn’t inherit the same offensive talent he had at UCF..

I wasn’t sold on some of his assistance mostly on offense and Trev made him blowup his offense staff for good reason..
 

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I'm not convinced we'll be better at QB, OL, DB, or WR. At OC, it's really is Whipple/Frost better than Frost? I think it's a yes, but it might not be.

At DL, it's can we hold up in the interior?

The fact is that we lost some pretty good players - both Cams, Allen, JoJo, Toure, both safeties, and some beef on the DL.

Martinez, for all his faults, bailed out some garbage OL play that CT probably isn't capable of doing, which is why I'm not sure we'll be better at QB.

Think RB and RB coach is an upgrade, WR coach is a massive upgrade, OL coach is wait and see though it prob cant be worse, QB coach is massive upgrade, DL coach is probably a wash.
 

Huskerfan2112

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I'm not convinced we'll be better at QB, OL, DB, or WR. At OC, it's really is Whipple/Frost better than Frost? I think it's a yes, but it might not be.

At DL, it's can we hold up in the interior?

The fact is that we lost some pretty good players - both Cams, Allen, JoJo, Toure, both safeties, and some beef on the DL.

Martinez, for all his faults, bailed out some garbage OL play that CT probably isn't capable of doing, which is why I'm not sure we'll be better at QB.

Think RB and RB coach is an upgrade, WR coach is a massive upgrade, OL coach is wait and see though it prob cant be worse, QB coach is massive upgrade, DL coach is probably a wash.
Im betting Purdy makes some noise at qb all season. I think he is getting overlooked.
 
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SF thought he could run the same type offense he ran in the American Athletic Conference..

He found out the hard way that the Big 10 had better defenses and he didn’t inherit the same offensive talent he had at UCF..

I wasn’t sold on some of his assistance mostly on offense and Trev made him blowup his offense staff for good reason..
I think this is true for the most part, but his UCF offense looked pretty good against Auburn in the bowl win.
 

inWV

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I not sure I really need to post this but it's that quiet time for Nebraska football and thought I would get some thoughts on Nebraska personnel.

Better or worse in your opinion:

2021 QB group or 2022
2021 WR/TE group or 2022
2021 RB group or 2022
2021 OL group or 2022
2021 DL group or 2022
2021 LB group or 2022
2021 DB group or 2022

Coaches
OC Frost/ Lubick or Whipple
OL Austin or Raiola
QB Frost/ Verduzco or Whipple
RB Held or Applewhite
WR Lubick or Joseph
DL Tuioti or Dawson

I put this post in because for myself I believe this team has been upgraded top to bottom. I don't expect everyone to chime in for every question so pick and choose where you have the strongest feelings.

For this reason I think we finally have a breakthrough season as far as record goes. We played most every opponent close last year and that was with below average coaching in my opinion. Now that our roster and coaching staff have been upgraded I feel 2022 will be a good year finally for the BIG RED. lmo
QB - 2022
WR/TE 2022
OL wash
RB 2022
DL 2021 (possible wash)
LB 2022
DB 2021
OC/QB Whipple
RB Applewhite
OL idk
WR Joseph
DL Tuioti
 
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I'm not convinced we'll be better at QB, OL, DB, or WR. At OC, it's really is Whipple/Frost better than Frost? I think it's a yes, but it might not be.

At DL, it's can we hold up in the interior?

The fact is that we lost some pretty good players - both Cams, Allen, JoJo, Toure, both safeties, and some beef on the DL.

Martinez, for all his faults, bailed out some garbage OL play that CT probably isn't capable of doing, which is why I'm not sure we'll be better at QB.

Think RB and RB coach is an upgrade, WR coach is a massive upgrade, OL coach is wait and see though it prob cant be worse, QB coach is massive upgrade, DL coach is probably a wash.
Yep. I am not drinking one sip of koolaid until I see them play. Sure we have an infusion of new talent that looks good on paper. But will these guys mesh and play as a team and are not just out to pad their own resume for the NFL? If all you needed was talent then Texas, Florida State, and Miami would not have fallen on hard times. You can fill your roster with four and five star guys but unless they can mesh as a true team and buy into the system then you can still suck. And yes, we have a bunch of new and exciting coaches on offense, but standard wisdom is that it usually take two years for new coaches to truly get things going their way. I am still not sold on our overall talent on both lines, we have big question marks at the safety position, injuries at Tight End, and a new QB with new receivers which also takes time for chemistry between them to develop. Given our easier schedule I would not be shocked if we went 9-3. But I also would not be shocked if we went 4-8 or 5-7.
 

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SF thought he could run the same type offense he ran in the American Athletic Conference..

He found out the hard way that the Big 10 had better defenses and he didn’t inherit the same offensive talent he had at UCF..

I wasn’t sold on some of his assistance mostly on offense and Trev made him blowup his offense staff for good reason..
No he did not, Trev had no say in the firings or hirings as both of those were all Frost and it's not the ADs job to dabble in those things and he had no hand in it. He was not told by Trev, your gonna fire these guys and then hire these guys. It don't work that way. Trev even said it was all Frost and the firings surprised him.
 

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Here’s the thing… if we play KSU in a bowl game, the only way we lose is if Martinez is injured. If he is the starter, he will give the game to us at some point in the 4th quarter.

Guaranteed.
 

Redscarlet

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No he did not, Trev had no say in the firings or hirings as both of those were all Frost and it's not the ADs job to dabble in those things and he had no hand in it. He was not told by Trev, your gonna fire these guys and then hire these guys. It don't work that way. Trev even said it was all Frost and the firings surprised him.
Never insinuated that Trev did the hiring..

Can’t imagine Trev not mentioning to SF about making changes on the offense side of the ball with staff changes when they discussed SF contact..
 

Wyldcard

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Never insinuated that Trev did the hiring..

Can’t imagine Trev not mentioning to SF about making changes on the offense side of the ball with staff changes when they discussed SF contact..
He did and said the firing were all done by Frost which surprised him as he didn't expact that
 

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Better or worse in your opinion:

QB group - 2022 by far
WR/TE group - 2022
RB group - 2022
OL group - hard telling... But better overall I think
DL group - 2022 if we count Mathis here
LB group - probably 2021 just because of Jojo
DB group - 2021, o be pleasantly surprised this year

Coaches
OC - Whipple
OL - Raiola
QB - Whipple
RB - Applewhite
WR - Joseph
DL - Dawson (never cared for Tiouti and he became a traitor anyway)
 

10Trvln

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No he did not, Trev had no say in the firings or hirings as both of those were all Frost and it's not the ADs job to dabble in those things and he had no hand in it. He was not told by Trev, your gonna fire these guys and then hire these guys. It don't work that way. Trev even said it was all Frost and the firings surprised him.
Trev MAY have said that. If he did, it was political. Frost was made well aware that things needed to change for him to remain. He was also made well aware of where he should start making changes if he wanted to remain as HC.
If you want to believe Trev had no say in the firings and hirings, you are wrong. To what degree he gave input, I can’t say for sure.
It was actually pretty savvy on Trev’s part that changes were made and Scott’s buyout was reduced.
 

mikecanale

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I not sure I really need to post this but it's that quiet time for Nebraska football and thought I would get some thoughts on Nebraska personnel.

Better or worse in your opinion:

2021 QB group or 2022
2021 WR/TE group or 2022
2021 RB group or 2022
2021 OL group or 2022
2021 DL group or 2022
2021 LB group or 2022
2021 DB group or 2022

Coaches
OC Frost/ Lubick or Whipple
OL Austin or Raiola
QB Frost/ Verduzco or Whipple
RB Held or Applewhite
WR Lubick or Joseph
DL Tuioti or Dawson

I put this post in because for myself I believe this team has been upgraded top to bottom. I don't expect everyone to chime in for every question so pick and choose where you have the strongest feelings.

For this reason I think we finally have a breakthrough season as far as record goes. We played most every opponent close last year and that was with below average coaching in my opinion. Now that our roster and coaching staff have been upgraded I feel 2022 will be a good year finally for the BIG RED. lmo
For me it's mainly about The OL. If it can protect the QB better and open up some space for our RB, we will have a potent offense that will win some games on their own even when the defense struggles.
 

10Trvln

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QB - 2022
WR/TE 2022
OL wash
RB 2022
DL 2021
OL idk
WR Joseph
DL Tuioti
I almost said the exact thing.

QB - 2022 - Agree. Coaching infinitely better. Players and depth better. I also like Purdy as much or a little better than CT.
WR/TE 2022 - Agree. Coaching better at WR, wish we still had Toure, other than that big upgrade on WR. TE - wasn’t used enough last year to tell. SHOULD be better. The injuries don’t help.
OL wash - Losing Cam will hurt. Combo of players and Better Coaching make this year better.
RB 2022 - Definitely much better
DL 2021 - Was biggest concern before the Portal guys. I think 2022 will be better
OL - 2022 better
WR Joseph - ABSOLUTELY!!!
DL Tuioti - Maybe as far as Recruiting. I do think Dawson is solid at Coaching
 

HominidHusker

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Offensive coaching is a clear upgrade, minus Raiola who has a lot to prove- but the bar has not been set very high.
Don’t leave out Busch leading special teams- a major and important upgrade.
Dawson/Tuioti is perhaps a toss up.

I’m curious to see what our defense can become: nervous, but wanna stay optimistic. There’s potential there, but they need to gel fast.
My random comment is that our 2021 safeties were experienced and not awful, but also nothing exceptional.

Excited to see new QB play.
TE situation needs to solidify.
Offense goes as the OL goes- critical position group.
Offense also needs to gel quickly.
 

TruHusker

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Never insinuated that Trev did the hiring..

Can’t imagine Trev not mentioning to SF about making changes on the offense side of the ball with staff changes when they discussed SF contact..
The minute an AD starts to meddle in who to fire and who to hire, he/she is toast. Not a single person in the department will trust them. The AD is results driven, not personnel at the lowest level, head coaches, yes. After that, the coaches are the responsibility of the HC.

What is so hard to understand about all that?
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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The minute an AD starts to meddle in who to fire and who to hire, he/she is toast. Not a single person in the department will trust them. The AD is results driven, not personnel at the lowest level, head coaches, yes. After that, the coaches are the responsibility of the HC.

What is so hard to understand about all that?
SF was neutered. Why would he arbitrarily fire 4 of 5 offensive coaches and take a Million a year pay cut? Had he felt keeping those same coaches would result in the same lack of wins would not have threatened his job, he likely would have kept them. Another 3-9 season without having making changes would have got him walked right out the door.

At the end of the day, the AD does make the decision to hire and fire the head coach. It doesn't make any sense that SF would agree to a million dollar pay cut if he felt they could turn this program around and still keep his job.

Coaches don't take 20% paycuts unless it's a budgetary issue, at NU, that's not the case. I suppose if Moos were still the AD, he would have given Frost another pay raise and contract extension. Trev Alberts is not that guy.
 

Redscarlet

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The minute an AD starts to meddle in who to fire and who to hire, he/she is toast. Not a single person in the department will trust them. The AD is results driven, not personnel at the lowest level, head coaches, yes. After that, the coaches are the responsibility of the HC.

What is so hard to understand about all that?
I think a AD telling the head coach you might want to make some changes because it clearly isn’t working and possibly asking him why hasn’t been working isn’t meddling when the head coach wants to stick around another year or longer..
 

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What was happening on offense filled a stat sheet nice enough but not on pts and wins. In hindsight, the prior guys weren’t up to the job in the B1G. In the main, the present staff is an improvement over last year. The new (and old) staff did a better than expected job at addressing needs in the portal and closed with a decent class. Let’s see if they can put the parts together.
 
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SF thought he could run the same type offense he ran in the American Athletic Conference..

He found out the hard way that the Big 10 had better defenses and he didn’t inherit the same offensive talent he had at UCF..

I wasn’t sold on some of his assistance mostly on offense and Trev made him blowup his offense staff for good reason..
The offense worked. We were one of only 5 teams in the conference that gained over 5,000 yards. We had 500 more yards than Wisconsin and Penn State, and 1,000 more than Iowa despite those three playing an extra game. And only Ohio State averaged more yards per game.

We were in the top 5 for passing yards per game and despite the troubles were
5th in rushing yards. Infact our rushing yards per game just beat Ohio State (181 to 180) for 4th in the Big Ten. We were 6th in scoring just beating out Wisconsin in both points and points per game.

We reached the endzone 53 times, about 4.4 times per game. Which is pretty solid but not elite. and enough to win most games. The problem is that we only got points on 41 of those trips. That is one redzone trip per game that got no points.

We had problems in the play calls from time to time, our line was prone to multiple mistakes in short bursts the tackles were awful and we couldn't run when we had to... and we were still a top 5 offense in the conference and if they could just not fck up one extra drive a game they would be really good. I don't think Whipple changes everything. I think he gives it a few new additions, maybe adds a concept or two to the picture but the things that are the biggest adjustments that will make the difference is 3 Things. a kicker that can get 3 points, a line that can hold for 3 seconds and a quarterback that doesn't look like he is shooting a 3 when trying to throw in the Redzone.



That said almost every one of those is a huge upgrade, the only one I could argue is the secondary being better. I think it's possible because I think it will get more picks than last year but I think it gives up a little more too. I think I have to say that is a slight decline but could see how it ends up either way.
 
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The minute an AD starts to meddle in who to fire and who to hire, he/she is toast. Not a single person in the department will trust them. The AD is results driven, not personnel at the lowest level, head coaches, yes. After that, the coaches are the responsibility of the HC.

What is so hard to understand about all that?
Yeah power never exercises power... Right lol
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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The offense worked. We were one of only 5 teams in the conference that gained over 5,000 yards. We had 500 more yards than Wisconsin and Penn State, and 1,000 more than Iowa despite those three playing an extra game. And only Ohio State averaged more yards per game.

We were in the top 5 for passing yards per game and despite the troubles were
5th in rushing yards. Infact our rushing yards per game just beat Ohio State (181 to 180) for 4th in the Big Ten. We were 6th in scoring just beating out Wisconsin in both points and points per game.

We reached the endzone 53 times, about 4.4 times per game. Which is pretty solid but not elite. and enough to win most games. The problem is that we only got points on 41 of those trips. That is one redzone trip per game that got no points.

We had problems in the play calls from time to time, our line was prone to multiple mistakes in short bursts the tackles were awful and we couldn't run when we had to... and we were still a top 5 offense in the conference and if they could just not fck up one extra drive a game they would be really good. I don't think Whipple changes everything. I think he gives it a few new additions, maybe adds a concept or two to the picture but the things that are the biggest adjustments that will make the difference is 3 Things. a kicker that can get 3 points, a line that can hold for 3 seconds and a quarterback that doesn't look like he is shooting a 3 when trying to throw in the Redzone.



That said almost every one of those is a huge upgrade, the only one I could argue is the secondary being better. I think it's possible because I think it will get more picks than last year but I think it gives up a little more too. I think I have to say that is a slight decline but could see how it ends up either way.
NU reached the end zone 19 times total against Fordham, Buffalo and Northwestern, the only 3 wins on the season. So the offense worked really well against that bunch.

The majority of the other things you mention, I would agree with. NU went after players in the portal that may be able to elevate those areas and turn some of the losses into wins.

I'm hoping if Thompson starts turning it over at least Whipple will consider making a change to either Purdy or Smothers. Playing AM last year, with all the mistakes and his injury is a reason why the offense sputtered so much. Not that the QB backups could have elevated the team, but the point is to at least give them a chance.

If NU is prone to the 3 second rule due to the OL's inability to give any QB some time remains a real concern on the offense. Luckily, NU comes out of the game against 3 cupcakes, so maybe they can begin to put a decent OL together with the talent available.

Without question, a solid kicking game, with consistency can mean the difference in winning and losing close games. Last year was one of the biggest **** shows I've ever seen in all 3 phases of the game. It may have made the difference in several games.

NU has to get out of the mindset of just letting subpar performers that seem to "own" a position. Maybe Mickey will be that way with the WR's, but I think not. None of us really know enough about the other offensive coaches to make a prediction of how willing they will be to make changes.

Last year it was non-stop mistakes with AM, CTB on punt returns, the kicking game, the first part of the season with Piper at LG. At the end of the day, NU has been a mistake machine since Day 1 of the SF regime.

As fans in a big money conference we should at least expect decent football. NU will lose but if they play really well and get beat that's football. Under SF, NU has mastered the ability to beat themselves, it would be nice if they would start making teams beat them for a change.
 

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I'm not convinced we'll be better at QB, OL, DB, or WR. At OC, it's really is Whipple/Frost better than Frost? I think it's a yes, but it might not be.

At DL, it's can we hold up in the interior?

The fact is that we lost some pretty good players - both Cams, Allen, JoJo, Toure, both safeties, and some beef on the DL.

Martinez, for all his faults, bailed out some garbage OL play that CT probably isn't capable of doing, which is why I'm not sure we'll be better at QB.

Think RB and RB coach is an upgrade, WR coach is a massive upgrade, OL coach is wait and see though it prob cant be worse, QB coach is massive upgrade, DL coach is probably a wash.
Tell you what...a lot of Husker fans are going to be missing AM at times...
 

10Trvln

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The minute an AD starts to meddle in who to fire and who to hire, he/she is toast. Not a single person in the department will trust them. The AD is results driven, not personnel at the lowest level, head coaches, yes. After that, the coaches are the responsibility of the HC.

What is so hard to understand about all that?
I don’t see it as “meddling.” The AD hires and fires HC’s. Scott was already here when Trev came in. Just like any leadership position, you let your subordinate know what the expectations are and you give advice on how they can be successful. Trev didn’t hand Scott a list and say these are the guys you are going to fire and these are the guys you are going to hire. However, it was made very clear to him where they were deficient and that changes would be made if he wanted to remain HC. As far as the hires, there was some collaboration. Absolutely nothing about this is Trev overstepping his duties as Scott’s boss.
 

TruHusker

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Yeah power never exercises power... Right lol
So, you want to believe that an AD can build relationships and Trust within the entire athletic department and outside of it with the community by telling coaches what to do, how to do it, who to hire and fire? So Trev gets his kicks by exercising his power over coaches? He is going to be a busy guy because that is a huge department.

As the AD he gets paid well to build winning programs and keep winning coaches. His word is his reputation. I can't think of many coaches, even at the HS level that would put up.with that kind of a AD.

Trev wants to win and so does Frost. Now I am speculating, Frost wants to turn this around, not leave as a loser, especially a storied program like his hometown Huskers. No one was going to hire him with his current credentials.
 

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I not sure I really need to post this but it's that quiet time for Nebraska football and thought I would get some thoughts on Nebraska personnel.

Better or worse in your opinion:

2021 QB group or 2022
2021 WR/TE group or 2022
2021 RB group or 2022
2021 OL group or 2022
2021 DL group or 2022
2021 LB group or 2022
2021 DB group or 2022

Coaches
OC Frost/ Lubick or Whipple
OL Austin or Raiola
QB Frost/ Verduzco or Whipple
RB Held or Applewhite
WR Lubick or Joseph
DL Tuioti or Dawson

I put this post in because for myself I believe this team has been upgraded top to bottom. I don't expect everyone to chime in for every question so pick and choose where you have the strongest feelings.

For this reason I think we finally have a breakthrough season as far as record goes. We played most every opponent close last year and that was with below average coaching in my opinion. Now that our roster and coaching staff have been upgraded I feel 2022 will be a good year finally for the BIG RED. lmo
it's upgraded, top to bottom.. with the only question being how much meddling is Scott going to be doing?

the Spring Game, which everyone says doesn't mean anything, sure looked like Frosty was managing the offense again.

Similarly, it once again looked like the offense stunk and the defense was ready play.. So there is that.

If you expected something different because of all the upgrades.. (I certainly did) we didn't see it in April. I guess you could expect to see in September right? yeah.. riiiggghhht..
 

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No he did not, Trev had no say in the firings or hirings as both of those were all Frost and it's not the ADs job to dabble in those things and he had no hand in it. He was not told by Trev, your gonna fire these guys and then hire these guys. It don't work that way. Trev even said it was all Frost and the firings surprised him.
I suppose you believe that Frost initiated his own pay cut and contract reduction too?
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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So, you want to believe that an AD can build relationships and Trust within the entire athletic department and outside of it with the community by telling coaches what to do, how to do it, who to hire and fire? So Trev gets his kicks by exercising his power over coaches? He is going to be a busy guy because that is a huge department.

As the AD he gets paid well to build winning programs and keep winning coaches. His word is his reputation. I can't think of many coaches, even at the HS level that would put up.with that kind of a AD.

Trev wants to win and so does Frost. Now I am speculating, Frost wants to turn this around, not leave as a loser, especially a storied program like his hometown Huskers. No one was going to hire him with his current credentials.
If I recall correctly, Trev came in and right away removed some of the problem people in the Athletic Department. To the underlings, that may have been a really positive sign that things may be looking brighter for them.

If you're looking at building winning programs and keeping winning coaches, at NU that list is mighty slim. Football, basketball and baseball are all bottom tier at the moment. The baseball squad had a great year in 2021 and followed it by having a poor season this year.

Hopefully, Bolt will be able to revert back to competitive baseball. The same can't be said for either Scott or Fred, as neither is close to .500 and are both current bottom feeders for multiple years and making big coin doing so.

When all 3 programs are sucking hind tit, it's only a matter of time where a change(s) will occur. At least Bolt proved for one year that he can lead a NU team to excellence, the others not so. To think that Trev will not be willing to pull the plug on these non-producing Head Coaches is not realistic.
 

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QB - upgrade, but that's partially due to talent around QB

WR- upgrade

RB- upgrade

TE- downgrade

OL- wash, but only because of Center. That unit is moving away from being the youngest offensive line in the Big Ten last season. It's kind of undervalued reality in this league. Minnesota's offensive line averaged 23 years old last season. Nebraska was like 20.4 years old on average.

DL- wash but with improved pass rush.

LB- upgrade. Nebraska's linebackers have played and started a lot of football games.

CB - downgrade- group has talent, but they're losing a 2nd round draft picks.

S - wash - group will be more athletic, but you can't diminish the value of experience. Huskers lost 40+ combined starts at Safety.
 

TruHusker

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If I recall correctly, Trev came in and right away removed some of the problem people in the Athletic Department. To the underlings, that may have been a really positive sign that things may be looking brighter for them.

If you're looking at building winning programs and keeping winning coaches, at NU that list is mighty slim. Football, basketball and baseball are all bottom tier at the moment. The baseball squad had a great year in 2021 and followed it by having a poor season this year.

Hopefully, Bolt will be able to revert back to competitive baseball. The same can't be said for either Scott or Fred, as neither is close to .500 and are both current bottom feeders for multiple years and making big coin doing so.

When all 3 programs are sucking hind tit, it's only a matter of time where a change(s) will occur. At least Bolt proved for one year that he can lead a NU team to excellence, the others not so. To think that Trev will not be willing to pull the plug on these non-producing Head Coaches is not realistic.
Keep stating the obvious, he inherited mens programs that are terrible. However, you are missing the point completely.

What do you mean "if I recall correctly"? He reorganized the department, he now had NIL and got rid of the in house video and all that.

Trev wants to give every coach.the opportunity to succeed. That is what good leaders do. Some would have been happy to see Fred and Scott shown the door immediately when he came. At the conclusion of next season, Trev will be able to sit down with Scott and tell him he (Trev) gave him this and that, every opportunity to turn this around, check off the boxes. He completely narrows down the Frost excuses for being "close" and he can let Frost go knowing he (Trev) gave him every shot possible.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Keep stating the obvious, he inherited mens programs that are terrible. However, you are missing the point completely.

What do you mean "if I recall correctly"? He reorganized the department, he now had NIL and got rid of the in house video and all that.

Trev wants to give every coach.the opportunity to succeed. That is what good leaders do. Some would have been happy to see Fred and Scott shown the door immediately when he came. At the conclusion of next season, Trev will be able to sit down with Scott and tell him he (Trev) gave him this and that, every opportunity to turn this around, check off the boxes. He completely narrows down the Frost excuses for being "close" and he can let Frost go knowing he (Trev) gave him every shot possible.
Trev started with firing problem people in the AD's office. When I say, "if I recall correctly", I MEAN, based on my recollection and I'm going back to research the timeline.

I think you're full of crap when you say, "Trev wants to give every coach the opportunity to succeed. That is what good leaders do." That's a bogus concept in the world of reality. Good leaders retain contributors to the overall company/department and get rid of those who have proven to be less than capable.

People come in and fire people to make a statement, some of them just don't like somebody and they find reasons to can them. You must be in academia, because the real world operates differently. I don't agree with most educational personnel concepts because it's not real world business.

The onus on proving if he is worthy of being retained is SF. He's spent the first 4 years proving that he's not up to the task. SF was given anything and everything he ever wanted or needed by Moos, yet failed miserably. Maybe SF just doesn't have what it takes. One great year in a sub major conference doesn't overshadow the FACT that SF has had 5 losing seasons in 6.

If NU has a real good year, then Trev has been instrumental in turning the ship around. If NU has another subpar year, it will have been proven that SF is not capable, and he will get sent packing. 5 years will have been plenty.
 

konaki

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Thanks to all for a lively discussion, I think it's what's needed more on this site. Again, thanks!
 

Redscarlet

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Thanks to all for a lively discussion, I think it's what's needed more on this site. Again, thanks!
I agree with you, more and more discussion will happen when we get closer to the month of August..
 

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OL- That unit is moving away from being the youngest offensive line in the Big Ten last season. It's kind of undervalued reality in this league. Minnesota's offensive line averaged 23 years old last season. Nebraska was like 20.4 years old on average.
Getting and staying older in the trenches is important.