Best Rapper Alive?

BroMontana

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Who ya got?

Best Rapper Alive: Jay Z
Best Rapper Alive or Dead: Biggie
Best Rap Group: Tribe Called Quest
Best Lyricist: Eminem

Personal Favorite: Jadakiss
 

BroMontana

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Best rap group: Outkast.

Unlike about 99.9 percent of other rap artists, they wrote their own stuff and didn't sample anything (to my knowledge, at least).
Good call Larry. Aquemini and Stankonia are two of my favorite albums of all time.

An interesting rap group story I was told once...when the Wu Tang Clan was most prominent, they would have rap battle tournaments against each other to compete for who would be on the radio singles. Always gave them a lot of love for that (assuming its true).
 
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ValleyCat_6317

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Surprised the @Cope_CU_Tiger message didn't shut down this thread because there is nothing more to say.

I always like Dead Prez as a group. They wrote their own stuff too which is why they didnt get alot of air play which is why nobody has heard of them.

Side question: when are you too old for rap music? Is it an age or just at a point in your life where you feel irresponsible singing the words out loud?
 
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Typical West Coast response. You relocate to Seattle from Compton Smiling? Haha!

You know how we do! I'm rolling straight out of the LBC

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Surprised the @Cope_CU_Tiger message didn't shut down this thread because there is nothing more to say.

I always like Dead Prez as a group. They wrote their own stuff too which is why they didnt get alot of air play which is why nobody has heard of them.

Side question: when are you too old for rap music? Is it an age or just at a point in your life where you feel irresponsible singing the words out loud?

To your question: Never, because to me it's way more than just lewd lyrics. It's innovative beats and creative word rhythms and a lot of cool stuff going on.
 

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Best Rapper Alive: Jay Z
Best Rapper Alive or Dead: Biggie
Best Rap Group: Tribe Called Quest
Best Lyricist: Eminem

Personal Favorite: Jadakiss
Best rapper alive: if we are talking about career hard to argue with Jay-Z.
Best rapper dead or alive: Tupac but Stack Bundles is the most underrated and would've been a star if he hadn't been killed
Best rap group: G-Unit
Best lyricist: Joe Budden Listen to everything but check out his new song broke
Personal favorite: 50 cent and Joe Budden
 

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Group for me is easy: A Tribe Called Quest.

I don't think Jay-Z is bad, but he wouldn't rank in the same tier for me as say, Nas, Eminem, Snoop or LL Cool J. But that's about personal taste more than measuring their success obviously. Tupac goes in there as well.

As if that list doesn't peg my age, lol. I'm still breaking out the DAS EFX and 3rd Bass cassettes from time to time.
 

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Group for me is easy: A Tribe Called Quest.

I don't think Jay-Z is bad, but he wouldn't rank in the same tier for me as say, Nas, Eminem, Snoop or LL Cool J. But that's about personal taste more than measuring their success obviously. Tupac goes in there as well.

As if that list doesn't peg my age, lol. I'm still breaking out the DAS EFX and 3rd Bass cassettes from time to time.
LL was one of the opening acts for the Foo Fighters show I went to in DC on the 4th of July and he KILLED it. And Ether by Nas is probably the best diss record ever made.
 

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Group for me is easy: A Tribe Called Quest.

I don't think Jay-Z is bad, but he wouldn't rank in the same tier for me as say, Nas, Eminem, Snoop or LL Cool J. But that's about personal taste more than measuring their success obviously. Tupac goes in there as well.

As if that list doesn't peg my age, lol. I'm still breaking out the DAS EFX and 3rd Bass cassettes from time to time.

SHOCKED AT STRELOWS HIP HIP KNOWLEDGE HERE!! I LOVED ME SOME DAS EFX AND SOME BLACK SHEEP BACK IN THE 90'S.

My all time best is JAY Z with BIGGIE close 2nd. I like Pac too but wasnt on the bandwagon like most. Kendrick Lamar is tight these days as is Lupe Fiasco, Common.

My fav group by far is TRIBE CALLED QUEST. Honorable Mention:: Public Enemy
 

watty55

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I with the Tribe Called Quest vote...


I don' t really call the Beastie Boys rap ..
 

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Best Rapper Alive: Jay Z
Best Rapper Alive or Dead: Biggie
Best Rap Group: Tribe Called Quest
Best Lyricist: Eminem

Personal Favorite: Jadakiss
There is no such thing as a great rapper. Geez, rap sucks. Bad poetry to worse music.
 

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The best 2 rappers of all time are 2pac and Biggie. Biggies flow and rhythm was untouchable, Pac's song writing and passion was undeniable. Everybody else is on a lower tier.


Edit: Best rapper alive? That's tough, Andre 3000 would get my vote. Also love some Tribe.
 
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Jay Z is so overrated ITT... Don't get me wrong I love me some Jay Z but he's not in the same teir as a few others.
Eminem is the best rapper alive.
Kendrick Lamar is the best current IMO
 

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Who ya got?

Best Rapper Alive: Jay Z
Best Rapper Alive or Dead: Biggie
Best Rap Group: Tribe Called Quest
Best Lyricist: Eminem

Personal Favorite: Jadakiss


The Jigga hate in this thread is ridiculous. It's because he's still alive and he's rich. lol. He's no longer got that voice of the streets. None of that, however, goes against all of the good stuff he did. Everything up until Blueprint was genius and amazing. The dude went from selling tapes and crack from his trunk to being married to B. But his lyrics have always been amazing.

Best alive: Jay for sure.
Best dead: B.I.G.
Best rap group: NWA...my personal fave though was Bone.
Best lyricist: B.I.G.

personal fave: Jay or Big.
 

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I can't believe I was the first one to mention N.W.A. lol. Especially with the movie about to drop.
 

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Jay Z is so overrated ITT... Don't get me wrong I love me some Jay Z but he's not in the same teir as a few others.
Eminem is the best rapper alive.
Kendrick Lamar is the best current IMO
Jay Z overrated? He's 44 here and kills it like he has from the start.
Look up his verse in "I got it" with RR too. Definitely not overrated. Simply the best alive.
 
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To your question: Never, because to me it's way more than just lewd lyrics. It's innovative beats and creative word rhythms and a lot of cool stuff going on.
This answer is why I have a Larry Williams poster hanging in my room.

Also I want to change my answer for best group to The 7th Floor Crew.

No love for Lil Wayne in here?
 
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If it wasn't for Big Daddy Kane, then Jay might have been an afterthought. He beat BDK in a rap battle, so BDK put him in his first ever video
NSFW

I'm sure he would've gotten noticed, but this put him on the map sooner rather than later.
 
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Steven15

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Jay Z overrated? He's 44 here and kills it like he has from the start.
Look up his verse in "I got it" with RR too. Definitely not overrated. Simply the best alive.

Maybe I could have worded it better. not overrated, but over ranked. Jay Z is one of the Goats. I won't get into a huge debate over it either because he has a great resume, I just don't consider him in the upper echelon of rappers.
 
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