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PowerI66_

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You also have to know how they actually measure it. Eagles had the top ranked OL per PFF, they rank RBs based on what the RB can control or at least that is their objective. So it kinda hurts Barkley a bit cause he can’t control that his OL was ranked the best and what benefits come with that.
True. They also don't know what the playcall or responsibilities for that play are.
 

SiuCubFan8

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True. They also don't know what the playcall or responsibilities for that play are.
While football is a complicated game they employ former players, coaches and scouts to do the analysis. I’m pretty confident they can determine the assignments a very high percentage of the time.
 

4Afan

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Rumors coming out of the league meetings are that the Bears may be kicking the tires on trading UP in the draft.

Just rumors at this point so they mean nothing, but Carter and Graham would be the only two I would be interested in trading up for.
 

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Rumors coming out of the league meetings are that the Bears may be kicking the tires on trading UP in the draft.

Just rumors at this point so they mean nothing, but Carter and Graham would be the only two I would be interested in trading up for.
Hunter?
 

4Afan

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No.

Think he will end up being a cancer to whatever team he ends up on and he won't play both sides of the ball full time in the NFL. Likely to be a full time CB with a package built for him at WR.

Regardless of how I feel about him, I don't see him sliding past #3 and the highest I could see the Bears trading up would he with NE at #4.
 

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Bunch of nonsense to me. I don’t see trading up from 10 to 4 and giving up both 2s and 2026 1 to do it on Poles and Johnson’s bingo cards.

Bears will have their choice of a good player at 10, whether that’s a RB, TE or DL. My guess is Hampton or Warren.
 

4Afan

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Bunch of nonsense to me. I don’t see trading up from 10 to 4 and giving up both 2s and 2026 1 to do it on Poles and Johnson’s bingo cards.

Bears will have their choice of a good player at 10, whether that’s a RB, TE or DL. My guess is Hampton or Warren.
That's a hell of a hypothetical offer. A trade up from 10 to 4 would realistically only cost one of their 2nd round picks and maybe a 5th, not both 2's plus a first next year.

If Hampton is your guy then they should trade back as I don't see him being worth the 10th pick. Outside of Dallas at 12 there isn't a team in serious need of a RB until Denver at 20.

I don't see them trading up, but will be interesting how things play out. I could see them trading with Carolina at 8 if Graham or Jeanty fall that far.

This isn't a monster draft class so ideally I want them to trade back and pick up more draft capital.
 

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I saw a two round Sports Illustrated mock draft on line that had the Bears getting Traveyon Henderson, OSU RB, in the second round which I liked. They had them getting Williams the Edge guy in the first round...other second round pick was a OT.
 
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I saw a two round Sports Illustrated mock draft on line that had the Bears getting Traveyon Henderson, OSU RB, in the second round which I liked. They had them getting Williams the Edge guy in the first round...other second round pick was a OT.
I've seen mocks where they take the other OSU RB in round 2, Quinshon Judkins. I think I like him over Henderson. Either way there's enough RB depth that I don't think the Bears should reach for a RB if Jeanty isn't there at 10.

Seen a few mocks having them taking Xavier Watts from ND in the 2nd as well as Prince (not gonna attempt to spell his last name), Edge out of Ole Miss who also played at Florida with Gervon Dexter.

Picking 10 in this year's draft is an odd spot given that there are 5-6 blue chippers and then 30-40 really good players. Multiple execs have said there is very little difference in talent between the 10th best player and the 40th best player this year.
 

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I've seen mocks where they take the other OSU RB in round 2, Quinshon Judkins. I think I like him over Henderson. Either way there's enough RB depth that I don't think the Bears should reach for a RB if Jeanty isn't there at 10.

Seen a few mocks having them taking Xavier Watts from ND in the 2nd as well as Prince (not gonna attempt to spell his last name), Edge out of Ole Miss who also played at Florida with Gervon Dexter.

Picking 10 in this year's draft is an odd spot given that there are 5-6 blue chippers and then 30-40 really good players. Multiple execs have said there is very little difference in talent between the 10th best player and the 40th best player this year.
There is a high risk high reward edge out of Tennessee that Id gamble on if he drops. First round talent with a clubhouse cancer reputation, but they claim it's all heresy.
 

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Loved this George McCaskey quote from the above Tribune article about Arlington Heights:

“George Halas identified it more than 50 years ago as an ideal place for a Bears stadium,” McCaskey said. “And I don’t know if anything that has happened since then changed that evaluation.”

IMO, those two City of Chicago options floated by the Bears and Kevin Warren have always been strictly a leverage play. AH was always the plan. Just further proof not to take Warren at his word for locations other than AH.
 
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IMO, those two City of Chicago options floated by the Bears and Kevin Warren have always been strictly a leverage play. AH was always the plan. Just further proof not to take Warren at his word for locations other than AH.
Ya, it's been pretty obvious. I will also add his ego has played a part, IMO.
 

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The cost of twiddling their thumbs and not starting 2 years ago is significant....
Perhaps not from the Bears' perspective. The longer they can delay this, the less of a penalty they will have to pay to break their Soldier Field lease with the Chicago Park District. The amount of the penalty decreases as the years remaining on the lease decrease.

The current lease is set to expire in 2033. Hell, by the time the Bears finally break ground in AH, and assuming construction delays, it'll be damn close to 2033 when they can actually play their first game there.
 

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Perhaps not from the Bears' perspective. The longer they can delay this, the less of a penalty they will have to pay to break their Soldier Field lease with the Chicago Park District. The amount of the penalty decreases as the years remaining on the lease decrease.

The current lease is set to expire in 2033. Hell, by the time the Bears finally break ground in AH, and assuming construction delays, it'll be damn close to 2033 when they can actually play their first game there.
I'm speaking only regarding construction costs. But yes, I am aware of the lease and the cost to break it.
 

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Perhaps not from the Bears' perspective. The longer they can delay this, the less of a penalty they will have to pay to break their Soldier Field lease with the Chicago Park District. The amount of the penalty decreases as the years remaining on the lease decrease.

The current lease is set to expire in 2033. Hell, by the time the Bears finally break ground in AH, and assuming construction delays, it'll be damn close to 2033 when they can actually play their first game there.
Honestly, if the Bears were playing 4-D chess, I would be astonished. I feel like I would need to give some form of public apology.
 

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Right. And the longer it takes for them to move into their new stadium (wherever it is built), the less of an early lease termination penalty they will have to pay.
If they are slow playing this because of the lease penalty forget it...don't bother, it will be a garbage stadium.
It is $84 million but I would expect they would try to negotiate it.
 

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Bears sign Case Keenum. One year, $3 mil. Likely relegated Bagent to 3rd string.
 

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Saw this mock, I find Cam Skattebo interesting.

Round 1, Pick 10: Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall

Round 2, Pick 39: Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame

Round 2, Pick 41: Cam Skattebo, RB, Arizona State

Round 3, Pick 72: Ozzy Trapilo, OT, Boston College

 
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That's a hell of a hypothetical offer. A trade up from 10 to 4 would realistically only cost one of their 2nd round picks and maybe a 5th, not both 2's plus a first next year.

If Hampton is your guy then they should trade back as I don't see him being worth the 10th pick. Outside of Dallas at 12 there isn't a team in serious need of a RB until Denver at 20.

I don't see them trading up, but will be interesting how things play out. I could see them trading with Carolina at 8 if Graham or Jeanty fall that far.

This isn't a monster draft class so ideally I want them to trade back and pick up more draft capital.
10 to 4 only costs a rd 2 pick? Since when? The bears sent a 2nd and 3rd to move up 1 single spot from 3 overall to 2 overall not that long ago. Anyone thinking you can trade 39 overall to move up to 4 isnt being realistic.

I’m All-In on Jeanty, I just don’t know if hell be on the board at 10.
 

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10 to 4 only costs a rd 2 pick? Since when? The bears sent a 2nd and 3rd to move up 1 single spot from 3 overall to 2 overall not that long ago. Anyone thinking you can trade 39 overall to move up to 4 isnt being realistic.

I’m All-In on Jeanty, I just don’t know if hell be on the board at 10.
Who ever said that was a good trade the Bears made?

Well there's this article that has the Bears trading with the Jags at 5 and giving them 10 and one of their seconds and getting possibly a 5th back from Jacksonville as well.


Here's one that has them sending 10 and 39 to the Pats for #4.


Here's the draft pick value calculator. Values pick 4 at 1800, pick 10 at 1300, and pick 39 at 510. The trade would be fair.

 

4Afan

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Saw this mock, I find Cam Skattebo interesting.

Round 1, Pick 10: Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall

Round 2, Pick 39: Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame

Round 2, Pick 41: Cam Skattebo, RB, Arizona State

Round 3, Pick 72: Ozzy Trapilo, OT, Boston College

Seems like a reach for 2 out of the 4 picks. I've seen Green go as high as 10 to the Bears and him still being available in the 2nd round. Not sure what that says about him but where he goes has a wide range.

I've seen mocks where Skattebo goes to the Bears, but in the 3rd round. Like I said before this a decently deep draft at RB. If Jeanty is there at 10, they obviously need to take him. If not there's no need to panic and over pay to trade up for someone.
 
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PowerI66_

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MJD made his mock today and he likes Henderson at 10. I wouldn't be upset with Henderson, but I don't see him at 10.
 
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Seems like a reach for 2 out of the 4 picks. I've seen Green go as high as 10 to the Bears and him still being available in the 2nd round. Not sure what that says about him but where he goes has a wide range.

I've seen mocks where Skattebo goes to the Bears, but in the 3rd round. Like I said before this a decently deep draft at RB. If Jeanty is there at 10, they obviously need to take him. If not there's no need to panic and over pay to trade up for someone.
I like Skattebo. He’s a gamer. Kid has unbelievable heart.
 

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I do like the attitude Jaylon Johnson has when he talks about the hype surround this team, this year. "Hype don't win you no games. So, for me, if it's not about winning, quite honestly, I don't really care about it." "I'm going to get excited when we win in November. And December. And when we change some things and get into the playoffs. That's when I 'm going to get excited."

I don't doubt there are other players who feel the same way. But, it is always refreshing to hear a guy say this out loud. Some of the fans need to hear this too. Yep. There have been some moves made and a lot of dialogue. But, until that team really moves forward and this translates into wins and playoff appearances I am not getting too excited either.
 
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