Baylor QB grad transfer

HominidHusker

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Could be tough to get him here, but this is what we need:

Charlie Brewer
In his Baylor career, Brewer appeared in 44 games and started 40, including 35 of the past 36. He threw for 9,700 yards, 65 touchdowns and 28 interceptions while completing 63.5 percent of his passes. He also ran for 1,039 yards and 22 touchdowns and was often praised by coaches and teammates for his toughness, battling back from multiple injuries in his career.
 

mgbreeze

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I kinda remember watching a game a couple years ago where he got the crap knocked out of him.
 

jimmyjoseph

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Could be tough to get him here, but this is what we need:

Charlie Brewer
In his Baylor career, Brewer appeared in 44 games and started 40, including 35 of the past 36. He threw for 9,700 yards, 65 touchdowns and 28 interceptions while completing 63.5 percent of his passes. He also ran for 1,039 yards and 22 touchdowns and was often praised by coaches and teammates for his toughness, battling back from multiple injuries in his career.
good passer; tough kid; pretty good runner; does not have Martinez electricity with ball in his hands but probably a better passer; Not sure why a top passing QB would come to NEB unless Frost somehow convinces them that they will totally change the offense from QB runs to drop back passing. and i dont think Frost is going to change so he will have to lie
 

IowaHuskr

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Could be tough to get him here, but this is what we need:

Charlie Brewer
In his Baylor career, Brewer appeared in 44 games and started 40, including 35 of the past 36. He threw for 9,700 yards, 65 touchdowns and 28 interceptions while completing 63.5 percent of his passes. He also ran for 1,039 yards and 22 touchdowns and was often praised by coaches and teammates for his toughness, battling back from multiple injuries in his career.
My best friend lives in Lake Travis, TX. Has been going to Lake Travis high school football games for decades. Same high school that Jaimes our OT went. My buddy says Charlie Brewer is the real deal. Good arm, smart and tough. Who knows if there is any interest from either side.
 

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good passer; tough kid; pretty good runner; does not have Martinez electricity with ball in his hands but probably a better passer; Not sure why a top passing QB would come to NEB unless Frost somehow convinces them that they will totally change the offense from QB runs to drop back passing. and i dont think Frost is going to change so he will have to lie

That is the offense, as it is supposed to be. With the QB operating out of the pocket. Nebraska is running the QB so much out of necessity. Milton played from the pocket, with just a few runs a game. Same with the Oregon QB’s. We have to run the QB’s so much, because it’s the only way we can move the ball right now. If we can’t find a guy that can pass, I think we should start running them more. Forget trying to spread it out and go to an option heavy or zone read heavy offense.
 

HominidHusker

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My best friend lives in Lake Travis, TX. Has been going to Lake Travis high school football games for decades. Same high school that Jaimes our OT went. My buddy says Charlie Brewer is the real deal. Good arm, smart and tough. Who knows if there is any interest from either side.
Can your friend get the word out down there that Brewer will be our starter day 1 upon arrival, and we’ve got a hungry fanbase ready to cheer him on more than he’s ever known?
 

phoenix4nu

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I just don't see Frost bringing in a transfer quarterback because of the hard feelings it would create with his recruited quarterbacks. And I think it is even more unlikely that he would bring in a grad transfer that would be gone after one year.
 

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Could be tough to get him here, but this is what we need:

Charlie Brewer
In his Baylor career, Brewer appeared in 44 games and started 40, including 35 of the past 36. He threw for 9,700 yards, 65 touchdowns and 28 interceptions while completing 63.5 percent of his passes. He also ran for 1,039 yards and 22 touchdowns and was often praised by coaches and teammates for his toughness, battling back from multiple injuries in his career.
If he wants to take tests and blink really fast Verduzco's the guy. If he wants to play at a high level maybe he can find a better choice.
 

SLOHusker

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I just don't see Frost bringing in a transfer quarterback because of the hard feelings it would create with his recruited quarterbacks. And I think it is even more unlikely that he would bring in a grad transfer that would be gone after one year.
Yeah. Winning isn't everything fellas. Think of the hurt feelings this would cause.
 
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I'm not sure a 1 year grad transfer is the answer but not necessarily because of hurt feelings. If you bring in a guy for 1 year, you have to be sure he will make your team better than what you have on the roster. Is he going to get your team more wins? Secondly, bringing in a guy for 1 year does tell your returning guys that you don't think they can do the job. So you have to weigh the odds that a guy like McCaffery transfers, then the next year you have Brewer gone, Martinez gone and McCaffery gone, leaving you one QB.
 

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I'm not sure a 1 year grad transfer is the answer but not necessarily because of hurt feelings. If you bring in a guy for 1 year, you have to be sure he will make your team better than what you have on the roster. Is he going to get your team more wins? Secondly, bringing in a guy for 1 year does tell your returning guys that you don't think they can do the job. So you have to weigh the odds that a guy like McCaffery transfers, then the next year you have Brewer gone, Martinez gone and McCaffery gone, leaving you one QB.
we don't yell at players because it might hurt their feelings. we don't stop and repeat practice because that would highlight a mistake and hurt a feeling. we don't try to recruit new players the are more highly regarded then what we have because that might hurt a feeling.
 

HominidHusker

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I'm not sure a 1 year grad transfer is the answer but not necessarily because of hurt feelings. If you bring in a guy for 1 year, you have to be sure he will make your team better than what you have on the roster. Is he going to get your team more wins? Secondly, bringing in a guy for 1 year does tell your returning guys that you don't think they can do the job. So you have to weigh the odds that a guy like McCaffery transfers, then the next year you have Brewer gone, Martinez gone and McCaffery gone, leaving you one QB.
Fair point.
1. I’m certain Brewer makes our team better. The one year improvement increases odds for recruiting someone better. We need to show potential.
2. Even if we have to live off a second transfer year 2 or a third transfer year 3, it’s worth it. I’m not convinced McCaffery will leave, but even less convinced he’ll lead us where we want to go. I do love his fire, but we need to deliver accurate throws.
Hopefully Smothers or Haarberg could become serviceable by then.
Regardless, what’s not sustainable is more losing seasons following the same path we’re on.
The bar has been set awfully low for Anyone to come in and improve us.
 

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we don't yell at players because it might hurt their feelings. we don't stop and repeat practice because that would highlight a mistake and hurt a feeling. we don't try to recruit new players the are more highly regarded then what we have because that might hurt a feeling.
And if the players are afraid of competition, then they need to get the hell off the team.
 

oldjar07

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I'm not sure a 1 year grad transfer is the answer but not necessarily because of hurt feelings. If you bring in a guy for 1 year, you have to be sure he will make your team better than what you have on the roster. Is he going to get your team more wins? Secondly, bringing in a guy for 1 year does tell your returning guys that you don't think they can do the job. So you have to weigh the odds that a guy like McCaffery transfers, then the next year you have Brewer gone, Martinez gone and McCaffery gone, leaving you one QB.
Then bring in another high school qb too.
 
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Then bring in another high school qb too.

That is the issue @oldjar07. He has signed 3 high school QBs. 2 missed all or part of their senior seasons with injuries. One was a one year HS starter.

Just recruiting bodies is never a good plan, especially at QB when you will typically only have 4 scholarship QBs on the roster.
 
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we don't yell at players because it might hurt their feelings. we don't stop and repeat practice because that would highlight a mistake and hurt a feeling. we don't try to recruit new players the are more highly regarded then what we have because that might hurt a feeling.

My comments weren’t necessarily tied to McCaffery leaving because of hurt feelings. If he leaves he leaves. But 2 of the 3 guys I mentioned would be moving on because they were out of eligibility. However is McCaffery did leave, Martinez and Brewer are gone, and you are left with Smothers, Haarberg both young and inexperience. So basically starting over at The most important position in year 5.

I don’t care about bringing in transfer QBs. Just not one year transfer QBs at this particular time.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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I just don't see Frost bringing in a transfer quarterback because of the hard feelings it would create with his recruited quarterbacks. And I think it is even more unlikely that he would bring in a grad transfer that would be gone after one year.
this is why Frost has to start getting real about player development and playing the best guys. he has to start looking at this a bit more like a business and a lot less like reliving his college experience as a player and being buddy buddy with the guys on the team.
 

phoenix4nu

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this is why Frost has to start getting real about player development and playing the best guys. he has to start looking at this a bit more like a business and a lot less like reliving his college experience as a player and being buddy buddy with the guys on the team.
I agree.
 

dinglefritz

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I just don't see Frost bringing in a transfer quarterback because of the hard feelings it would create with his recruited quarterbacks. And I think it is even more unlikely that he would bring in a grad transfer that would be gone after one year.
I'm done worrying about hard feelings from QBs who can't get the job done.
 

dinglefritz

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My comments weren’t necessarily tied to McCaffery leaving because of hurt feelings. If he leaves he leaves. But 2 of the 3 guys I mentioned would be moving on because they were out of eligibility. However is McCaffery did leave, Martinez and Brewer are gone, and you are left with Smothers, Haarberg both young and inexperience. So basically starting over at The most important position in year 5.

I don’t care about bringing in transfer QBs. Just not one year transfer QBs at this particular time.
Then you go find another transfer or true freshman who is the real deal. Frost needs to win now or he won't have to worry about who the next QB will be.
 

dinglefritz

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we don't yell at players because it might hurt their feelings. we don't stop and repeat practice because that would highlight a mistake and hurt a feeling. we don't try to recruit new players the are more highly regarded then what we have because that might hurt a feeling.
I was okay with everything until you got to the recruiting part. We DO in fact try to recruit over existing players including QBs. Smothers is an example of that. Trying and doing are two entirely different things though. Frost has to have some success with getting A guy to the NFL though if he really wants to land top QBs.
 
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I am at the point, where you need to take a long look at the QB room, I get there are other issues, but finding a capable QB to run this offense should be priority #1. When you see teams that "turn the corner" the constant variable is the signal caller, you get that cat wins start to come, confidence builds and then you can turn the corner, we don't have that cat on the roster (unknown about Smothers), I don't care if its a one hit wonder or a portal transfer, all I know its not LM or AM (I love both those guys AM's leadership and LM athletic ability) they are not going to help turn the corner at QB.
 

NorthWillRiseAgain

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At some point you have to look at the person working on those qbs, and if nothing changes, you have to evaluate the whole product.

Frost hit lightning in a bottle with those George O’Leary classes, that just needed a spark. The spark, McKenzie Milton came in and it was history. It looks now like getting the Milton type of qb was just a fluke with the types they’ve been bringing in.

I’d rather have a statue in the pocket than what we have.
 
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Could be tough to get him here, but this is what we need:

Charlie Brewer
In his Baylor career, Brewer appeared in 44 games and started 40, including 35 of the past 36. He threw for 9,700 yards, 65 touchdowns and 28 interceptions while completing 63.5 percent of his passes. He also ran for 1,039 yards and 22 touchdowns and was often praised by coaches and teammates for his toughness, battling back from multiple injuries in his career.
I don't think it matters. He'll get worse once he's here. Vedral is doing better at Rutgers than AM and Luke here.
 

CatColumbia

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Bring in a grad transfer and switch Luke to receiver. If he doesn’t want to then he’ll have to transfer. We’ll lose more games in the future with Luke at QB. He’s not a QB.
 

HuskerO58

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My comments weren’t necessarily tied to McCaffery leaving because of hurt feelings. If he leaves he leaves. But 2 of the 3 guys I mentioned would be moving on because they were out of eligibility. However is McCaffery did leave, Martinez and Brewer are gone, and you are left with Smothers, Haarberg both young and inexperience. So basically starting over at The most important position in year 5.

I don’t care about bringing in transfer QBs. Just not one year transfer QBs at this particular time.
Just pray that there will be another transfer or Juco QB available to grab at that time!
 
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I don't think it matters. He'll get worse once he's here. Vedral is doing better at Rutgers than AM and Luke here.
vedral at rutgers: 61.4% comp, 5.7 yards/attempt, 10 total TD, 8 INT, 115.6 Rating
AM 2020: 68.3% comp, 6.5 yards/attempt, 8 total TD, 1 INT, 129.8 Rating

vedral's actually been worse than AM this year. though, I'm sure he'll find a way to look like an all-american on Friday.
 

CatColumbia

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vedral at rutgers: 61.4% comp, 5.7 yards/attempt, 10 total TD, 8 INT, 115.6 Rating
AM 2020: 68.3% comp, 6.5 yards/attempt, 8 total TD, 1 INT, 129.8 Rating

vedral's actually been worse than AM this year. though, I'm sure he'll find a way to look like an all-american on Friday.

Numbers are deceiving though. AMarts percentages are up because the defense gives him the short yardage. Has he completed one deep ball this year?

And I know you’re not vouching for AMart. I’m just adding on to your comment.
 
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Numbers are deceiving though. AMarts percentages are up because the defense gives him the short yardage. Has he completed one deep ball this year?

And I know you’re not vouching for AMart. I’m just adding on to your comment.
I included yards/attempt for this exact reason.

vedral is dinking and dunking even more than AM, it appears.
 

oldjar07

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That is the issue @oldjar07. He has signed 3 high school QBs. 2 missed all or part of their senior seasons with injuries. One was a one year HS starter.

Just recruiting bodies is never a good plan, especially at QB when you will typically only have 4 scholarship QBs on the roster.
I didn't say bring in bodies. Get the best you can possibly get. Get the numbers you need. The rest will sort itself out.
 

oldjar07

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Bring in a grad transfer and switch Luke to receiver. If he doesn’t want to then he’ll have to transfer. We’ll lose more games in the future with Luke at QB. He’s not a QB.
Should have been done already. But this staff is stupid enough to think they only need to take 1 qb each class when they have guys transferring out each year.