Basketball Starters?

[artguy68]

Really great article on here about the players one the basketball team this year. Got me excited, but it also has me wondering how it will shake out. Assuming Lakes, McGowans, and King are not immediately eligible (it seems we never get waivers), that leaves us with this:
PG Banton, Webster
G/F Allen, Thor, Stevenson (King mid-year)
PF/C Mayan, Andre, Arop, Yvan, Walker

My prediction for starters: Banton, Allen, Stevenson, Yvan, Walker.

One thing is for sure: we are not getting pushed around this year. We now have height and muscle.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

Really great article on here about the players one the basketball team this year. Got me excited, but it also has me wondering how it will shake out. Assuming Lakes, McGowans, and King are not immediately eligible (it seems we never get waivers), that leaves us with this:
PG Banton, Webster
G/F Allen, Thor, Stevenson (King mid-year)
PF/C Mayan, Andre, Arop, Yvan, Walker

My prediction for starters: Banton, Allen, Stevenson, Yvan, Walker.

One thing is for sure: we are not getting pushed around this year. We now have height and muscle.

if Justin Fields was eligible, King will be eligible.

 

[mgbreeze]

Fun post to think about. How weird is it that it's hard to decide who should start because there are too many potentially good players? I really, really hope King gets a waiver. If that happens, IT'S ON! He brings a hard edge on defense and will undoubtably have a chip on his shoulder. I know Banton gets a lot of hype, but I have a feeling we'll be seeing Webster at point a lot. Should be fun!

 

[HuskerLove]

Hoiberg really likes Thor so it would not surprise me if he got the start.

 

[leodisflowers]

Maybe we should go after Mac McClung

 

[huskerssalts]

if Justin Fields was eligible, King will be eligible.

yep, exactly. He’s using the Race card too. And I hate saying it that way but I don’t know how else to generalize it. King will get approved, mark my words and if so, he was one of the Badgers biggest weapons last year. I’d assume he will end up being a starter.

EDITED: And this is just a guess and opinion...it’s stupid I have to keep saying this so SOME on here don’t take me as a know it all or what ever it is they take some of my predictions, opinions and guesses as.

 

[huskerssalts]

Fun post to think about. How weird is it that it's hard to decide who should start because there are too many potentially good players? I really, really hope King gets a waiver. If that happens, IT'S ON! He brings a hard edge on defense and will undoubtably have a chip on his shoulder. I know Banton gets a lot of hype, but I have a feeling we'll be seeing Webster at point a lot. Should be fun!

Banton is one of the most talented players we have. At 6’8 and has PG type handles and speed, he’s a defensive nightmare for teams. I can’t see a lineup without him starting in. He could play SG as well, he doesn’t have to be a PG only.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

yep, exactly. He’s using the Race cards too. And I hate saying it that way but I don’t know how else to generalize it. King will get approved, mark my words and if so, he was one of the Badgers biggest weapons last year. I’d assume he will end up being a starter.

yea I don't know that he's playing a card, just reporting what happened and why he wanted to leave.

also, wisc did win the big 10 after his departure, so.. I'm not sure what that means exactly haha

I'm excited to have a kid with B1G experience out there for NU, though. he should fit in right away.

 

[huskerssalts]

yea I don't know that he's playing a card, just reporting what happened and why he wanted to leave.

also, wisc did win the big 10 after his departure, so.. I'm not sure what that means exactly haha

I'm excited to have a kid with B1G experience out there for NU, though. he should fit in right away.

yeah maybe the way I said that was wrong. Not how I meant it anyways. Regardless, I don’t see him getting shut down...I bet he gets his waiver approved.

Wisconsin was good with and without him, lol. But he was still a weapon for them while he was there. Fully agreed though, he’s a proven BIG 10 talent and has already gone up against the BIG 10 comp.

 

[big red23]

Really great article on here about the players one the basketball team this year. Got me excited, but it also has me wondering how it will shake out. Assuming Lakes, McGowans, and King are not immediately eligible (it seems we never get waivers), that leaves us with this:
PG Banton, Webster
G/F Allen, Thor, Stevenson (King mid-year)
PF/C Mayan, Andre, Arop, Yvan, Walker

My prediction for starters: Banton, Allen, Stevenson, Yvan, Walker.

One thing is for sure: we are not getting pushed around this year. We now have height and muscle.

PG: Webster
SG: Banton
SF: Allen
PF: Stevenson
C: Yvan

Extend Playing time back ups

6th Man SG: Thor (Banton moves to PG or SF)
PF: Walker
C/PF: Mayan

Some early year minutes/injury minutes

C: Andre

If King get his waiver he is going to be a Starter... I think Stevenson becomes the 6th man and we play 9 instead of 8

 

[artguy68]

PG: Webster
SG: Banton
SF: Allen
PF: Stevenson
C: Yvan

Extend Playing time back ups

6th Man SG: Thor (Banton moves to PG or SF)
PF: Walker
C/PF: Mayan

Some early year minutes/injury minutes

C: Andre

If King get his waiver he is going to be a Starter... I think Stevenson becomes the 6th man and we play 9 instead of 8

I feel Walker over Stevenson for defense. That's a lot of beef with Yvan and Walker in the paint.

The key this season is Allen. Without him, we don't have a go-to guy on offense unless King or even McGowans become available. Outside of that concern, this team seems to have a lot of moving parts and different potential looks. Could be exciting!

 

[big red23]

I feel Walker over Stevenson for defense. That's a lot of beef with Yvan and Walker in the paint.

The key this season is Allen. Without him, we don't have a go-to guy on offense unless King or even McGowans become available. Outside of that concern, this team seems to have a lot of moving parts and different potential looks. Could be exciting!

Banton can definitely be a go to guy. I just hope these guys can play together and not get selfish. Not everyone is going to get what they think, and might get pouty like Green and Burke's did this last year. The key is going to be teamwork and gelling together. Outside of Allen and Banton we have other potential threats in King and Webster.

If our guys can put up these number we will have a great season

Allen - 17pts/3ast/5reb
Banton - 15pts/5ast/5reb
King - 11pts/3ast/4reb
Webster - 8pts/4ast/3stl
Yvan - 8pts/8reb/2blks
Thor - 7pts/3ast/2stl
Stevenson - 5pts/6reb/1blk
Walker - 5pts/6rebs/1blk
Mayan - 4pts/4reb/1blk

That's averaging roughly...

80 - points
18 - assists
40 - rebounds
5 - blocks

Shooting % is going to matter, and there are a lot of other factors. That is just the way I see this team functioning at the highest level. We can't have guys like King and Banton getting upset if Allen is the guy or vice versa. We need them to feed off of each other, and not be selfish

 

[huskernaut_rivals292165]

Can any of them make a free throw?

 

[Husker Red 182]

Banton can definitely be a go to guy. I just hope these guys can play together and not get selfish. Not everyone is going to get what they think, and might get pouty like Green and Burke's did this last year. The key is going to be teamwork and gelling together. Outside of Allen and Banton we have other potential threats in King and Webster.

If our guys can put up these number we will have a great season

Allen - 17pts/3ast/5reb
Banton - 15pts/5ast/5reb
King - 11pts/3ast/4reb
Webster - 8pts/4ast/3stl
Yvan - 8pts/8reb/2blks
Thor - 7pts/3ast/2stl
Stevenson - 5pts/6reb/1blk
Walker - 5pts/6rebs/1blk
Mayan - 4pts/4reb/1blk

That's averaging roughly...

80 - points
18 - assists
40 - rebounds
5 - blocks

Shooting % is going to matter, and there are a lot of other factors. That is just the way I see this team functioning at the highest level. We can't have guys like King and Banton getting upset if Allen is the guy or vice versa. We need them to feed off of each other, and not be selfish

If your numbers are right then it will be a very good turnaround year. I’m a little higher in Stevenson as I could see him being a 10-12 ppg guy. Love his size and the possibility of playing multiple positions. In warm ups he always caught my eye. In general I see more talent on court. In general I believe the frontcourt is more interesting than backcourt because we are prob talking about 1person on court at time wish Yvan, Mayan, and walker. Hope Andre can redshirt

 

[mgbreeze]

Banton is one of the most talented players we have. At 6’8 and has PG type handles and speed, he’s a defensive nightmare for teams. I can’t see a lineup without him starting in. He could play SG as well, he doesn’t have to be a PG only.

Didn’t say he wouldn’t start. Just maybe not at point.

 

[huskerssalts]

Can any of them make a free throw?

here’s what I researched and found out about our current players and how they done at the Free Throw line. I posted this in the “Teddy Allen got his 4th star” thread.

“actually it appears everyone of our new guys coming in are also decent to good free throw shooters.

Teddy Allen is a 88% FT shooter
Lat Mayen is a 81% FT shooter
Trey McGowen is a 75% FT shooter
Kobe King is a 66% FT shooter
Kobe Webster is a 77% FT shooter
Trevor Lakes is a 81% FT shooter

I couldn’t find a thing about free throw shooting for our new 6’10 center Eduardo Andre but it seems like all of our other new additions are decent to good free throw shooters. I have no clue why our last batch of players struggled so badly at the charity line. But this group appears to be the exact opposite. GBR”

 

[HuskerBlueDevil]

Andre has a very natural looking stroke at the free throw line. I believe I read that he shot 64% as a soph. With good stroke to start with and a willingness to allow a shooting guru like Hoiberg to teach him, it seems likely that he will be at least a decent FT shooter.

 

[Larry Hagman's Liver]

This thread has me excited about Husker hoops and I don't care who knows it.

 

[dacred]

Banton is one of the most talented players we have. At 6’8 and has PG type handles and speed, he’s a defensive nightmare for teams. I can’t see a lineup without him starting in. He could play SG as well, he doesn’t have to be a PG only.

Just asking.....but why is everyone so high on Banton, his past stats are not impressive?

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Just asking.....but why is everyone so high on Banton, his past stats are not impressive?

Top 100 recruit out of high school. Had a game vs wisconsin where he had 8 pts, 13 rebounds, and 10 assists so I think the talent is there.

 

[huskerssalts]

Just asking.....but why is everyone so high on Banton, his past stats are not impressive?

Top 100 recruit out of high school. Had a game vs wisconsin where he had 8 pts, 13 rebounds, and 10 assists so I think the talent is there.

This ^^^^ and Fred Hoiberg himself is high on Banton. That says a lot. The man knows basketball talent when he see it. Not to mention a 6’8 PG??? That’s a legit defensive nightmare lol.

 

[Cornicator]

Just asking.....but why is everyone so high on Banton, his past stats are not impressive?

Terran Petteway averaged less than 3 ppg his freshman year at Texas Tech.

James Palmer, Jr. was a non factor to the tune of 3.5 ppg in two seasons at Miami.

 

[Reditus]

Also, it's not always about stats. He causes issues for the defense because of the size mismatch as a ball handler. So he's making other players better besides being a threat himself. This may or may not be the case here but obviously he oozes potential. Also could be like Palmer & Roby. Palmer was our leading scorer&offensive threat but it was Roby who got drafted. Kind of weird but it what it is.

 

[dacred]

Terran Petteway averaged less than 3 ppg his freshman year at Texas Tech.

James Palmer, Jr. was a non factor to the tune of 3.5 ppg in two seasons at Miami.

Stevenson who played for Pittsburgh as a Freshmen vs. Banton who played at Western Kentucky had a better season. Stevenson tripled up on Banton on points and ave more rebounds with similar number of games and games started against a tougher schedule, i am guessing. So why isn't Stevenson being mentioned as much or is he?

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

Only one of Walker and Ouedraogo (or neither) will be in the starting lineup. We'll go with four shooters and ball handlers along with one "big," and if the "big" is Mayen, we'll have five out there who can shoot.

1. Banton
2. King
3. Allen
4. Stevenson
5. Mayen/Ouedraogo/Walker OR

1. Webster
2. Banton
3. Allen
4. Stevenson
5. Mayen/Ouedraogo/Walker

Sixth man: Thor

 

[Reditus]

Stevenson who played for Pittsburgh as a Freshmen vs. Banton who played at Western Kentucky had a better season. Stevenson tripled up on Banton on points and ave more rebounds with similar number of games and games started against a tougher schedule, i am guessing. So why isn't Stevenson being mentioned as much or is he?

You raise a good point. Time will tell.

 

[mgbreeze]

Stevenson who played for Pittsburgh as a Freshmen vs. Banton who played at Western Kentucky had a better season. Stevenson tripled up on Banton on points and ave more rebounds with similar number of games and games started against a tougher schedule, i am guessing. So why isn't Stevenson being mentioned as much or is he?

I'm excited in general for a number of the "new guys", Stevenson and Banton are just two of them. I think some of the hype about Banton comes from murmurs of what was happening in workouts and scrimmages (was wowing people) in combination with his size and supposed skill set. Who cares about "mentions"? Are you Stevenson's Uncle or something (just messing with you)?

 

[artguy68]

Stevenson who played for Pittsburgh as a Freshmen vs. Banton who played at Western Kentucky had a better season. Stevenson tripled up on Banton on points and ave more rebounds with similar number of games and games started against a tougher schedule, i am guessing. So why isn't Stevenson being mentioned as much or is he?

I am going by the word I am hearing from coaches and writers. Both Banton and Stevenson were impressive in their sit out year, but it seems that there is more excitement about Banton. You can even see this in the article currently on the main page of this site. A lot changes in two years and a different system. Stats from their FR years at different schools don't mean a whole lot right now.

 

[mgbreeze]

Good article in the OWH today:
https://www.omaha.com/sports/colleg...cle_aed72d41-dc35-5898-a651-dadd611eb22d.html
Seems that Mayen might be a more important guy than what I anticipated. I can't wait to see Teddy play.

 

[Redscarlet]

I’m more optimistic about the coming Basketball season compared to the Football season..

We have more question marks on the football side in my opinion..

 

[dacred]

I'm excited in general for a number of the "new guys", Stevenson and Banton are just two of them. I think some of the hype about Banton comes from murmurs of what was happening in workouts and scrimmages (was wowing people) in combination with his size and supposed skill set. Who cares about "mentions"? Are you Stevenson's Uncle or something (just messing with you)?

LOL.... no I'm not. certainly agree with the size of Banton at PG and the pressure it would put on the D. Hope these guys mesh quickly and put together a good season.