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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,337
33,064
113
I don't think I've ever seen a team give up this many uncontested layups and offensive rebound putbacks and still win by double digits. Texas Southern is better than I expected, and definitely better than the Southern U team that beat us. But we've got a long way to go.
 

Bulldogg31

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2013
8,263
0
0
Howland is trying REALLY hard to get the troops to play tight man-to-man. A couple of our guys just can't hang on D.

IJ Ready might be the worst.

We're going to need to play some zone this year, whether Howland likes it or not.

Reminds me of Norman Dale demanding four passes before a shot.
 

civildawg88

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2012
2,862
1,760
102
I also wish we would attack the basket more with the way fouls are going to be called this year. We take too many contested threes early in the shot clock as well
 

fishwater99

Freshman
Jun 4, 2007
14,073
54
48
Howland is trying REALLY hard to get the troops to play tight man-to-man. A couple of our guys just can't hang on D.

IJ Ready might be the worst.

We're going to need to play some zone this year, whether Howland likes it or not.

Reminds me of Norman Dale demanding four passes before a shot.

I agree... Our man defense is horrible, we can't switch off and rarely help if someone gets beat to the hole..
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,337
33,064
113
The way we play defense, our uniforms should be matador uniforms, complete with a cape to wave in front of opposing players as they drive to the basket for a layup.
 

GhostOfJackie

Senior
Apr 20, 2009
3,795
712
113
Howland is trying REALLY hard to get the troops to play tight man-to-man. A couple of our guys just can't hang on D.

IJ Ready might be the worst.

We're going to need to play some zone this year, whether Howland likes it or not.

Reminds me of Norman Dale demanding four passes before a shot.

This is what I don't get. The one thing I thought Rick Ray did a good job coaching, was playing sound and tight defense. We didn't have the talent to play great defense but we always played solid defense. Most of our core players have had 3 years of that, so it's hard to believe it could be this bad.

I definitely see improvement in this team game by game though.
 

Dan Dority

Redshirt
Aug 25, 2012
306
0
0
Howland is trying REALLY hard to get the troops to play tight man-to-man. A couple of our guys just can't hang on D.

IJ Ready might be the worst.

We're going to need to play some zone this year, whether Howland likes it or not.

Reminds me of Norman Dale demanding four passes before a shot.

I agree with some of your post but IJ should be better than he is. You can't be as quick as he is and not be a good defender. Defense requires EFFORT and WANT-TO! You have to want-to play defense. If you are quick and and fast have the desire you can play good defense.
 

thf24

Redshirt
Jan 28, 2011
1,334
3
38
This is what I don't get. The one thing I thought Rick Ray did a good job coaching, was playing sound and tight defense. We didn't have the talent to play great defense but we always played solid defense. Most of our core players have had 3 years of that, so it's hard to believe it could be this bad.

We didn't have good defense under Ray. Points allowed per game made it look decent, but we were never even in the top half of the nation in points allowed per possession. We just slowed the game down so much that opponents didn't have time to score a ton of points.
 

Hanmudog

Redshirt
Apr 30, 2006
5,853
0
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I have watched almost all of our games so far and it is easy to tell that teams know they can take it to the hole at will. Teams are not shooting a lot of threes against us because they don't have to.

We will get buried by any team with an above average point guard. Calling it now, Moody for OM will average at least 25ppg against State and we will lose both games.
 

Philly Dawg

Heisman
Oct 6, 2012
16,323
11,037
113
Our defense under Ray was not good. Of Ray's three years, in two we were worse defensively than in Stansbury's last year, which was one of his worst by far on defense.

I don't think these seniors were ever really tought how to play man to man. Ray's one year of having a decent defense was last year and we played mostly zone.
 

AlCoDog

All-Conference
Feb 27, 2008
5,876
1,476
113
IJ cannot move to his left on defense. If a guy crosses over one dribble and goes right he gets burnt every time. I bet I've seen someone drive right on him and get to the basket for a lay up at least 25 times.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
I have watched almost all of our games so far and it is easy to tell that teams know they can take it to the hole at will. Teams are not shooting a lot of threes against us because they don't have to.

We will get buried by any team with an above average point guard. Calling it now, Moody for OM will average at least 25ppg against State and we will lose both games.

Went back and looked at % of 3-point shots vs us this year...

EW shot 65 times with 22 from 3 = 33.8%
SU shot 62 times with 14 from 3 = 22.6%
UM shot 60 times with 17 from 3 = 28.3%
TT shot 60 times with 17 from 3 = 30.0%
MoSt shot 56 times with 17 from 3 = 30.3%
UTM shot 55 times with 17 from 3 = 30.9%
TxS shot 61 times with 17 from 3 = 27.9%

Seems teams are shooting a normal % of 3's vs us
 

Hanmudog

Redshirt
Apr 30, 2006
5,853
0
0
Went back and looked at % of 3-point shots vs us this year...

EW shot 65 times with 22 from 3 = 33.8%
SU shot 62 times with 14 from 3 = 22.6%
UM shot 60 times with 17 from 3 = 28.3%
TT shot 60 times with 17 from 3 = 30.0%
MoSt shot 56 times with 17 from 3 = 30.3%
UTM shot 55 times with 17 from 3 = 30.9%
TxS shot 61 times with 17 from 3 = 27.9%

Seems teams are shooting a normal % of 3's vs us

Small sample size. I would bet that teams tend to attempt more threes against good defensive teams because good shots are hard to come by.

Either way, teams are crazy to shoot from 20 feet against us when they could be shooting layups.
 
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