Basketball Classes

[123GRC321]

Anyone have an educated guess on boys and girls b-ball classifications

 

[sportscabbie]

Do they use same enrollment numbers that were used for football or are they updated?

 

[TC53]

They use separate boy-girl numbers. The biggest trick is knowing all the co-ops.

Correction, A&B use combined enrollment to determine 60 teams for those two classes.

 

[sportscabbie]

They use separate boy-girl numbers. The biggest trick is knowing all the co-ops.

Correction, A&B use combined enrollment to determine 60 teams for those two classes.

I know all that but for boys basketball classifications do they use the same numbers as football?

 

[Alum-Ni]

I know all that but for boys basketball classifications do they use the same numbers as football?

That would be a fair assumption

 

[123GRC321]

What are the A/B & B/C1 cutoff?

 

[sportscabbie]

What are the A/B & B/C1 cutoff?

The top 60 schools using total enrollment make up class A/B with all teams over 850 making up A and remaining teams put in B. Then all remaining teams split evenly into bottom 4 classes with additional schools being placed in lower class. Bottom 4 classes use separate enrollment numbers for boys and girls.

 

[Football2002]

So, top 60 in terms of boy enrollment. Then, if combined is 850+, you are A. Less, you are B.

The girls would be done exactly the same.

Correct?

 

[sportscabbie]

So, top 60 in terms of boy enrollment. Then, if combined is 850+, you are A. Less, you are B.

The girls would be done exactly the same.

Correct?

So, top 60 in terms of boy enrollment. Then, if combined is 850+, you are A. Less, you are B.

The girls would be done exactly the same.

Correct?

Yes , I worded it wrong in previous post

 

[123GRC321]

Girls should follow volleyball, right? But those aren’t out yet.

 

[clktwr]

That would be a fair assumption

I don't believe that they follow Football because of schools that co-op ONLY football. I could be wrong here, but I believe (as an example) High Plains and Osceola were a co-op for football only. When basketball season came around, they were separate and therefore would classify differently than in football.

 

[sportscabbie]

I don't believe that they follow Football because of schools that co-op ONLY football. I could be wrong here, but I believe (as an example) High Plains and Osceola were a co-op for football only. When basketball season came around, they were separate and therefore would classify differently than in football.

What I mean is do they use the enrollment numbers that are used for football for basketball also or do they update the numbers to more recent data as 1 student + or - could make a difference of a school being in 1 class or the other. I realize some co-ops are football only as there are also co-ops that are basketball only. But even though some of the co-ops for football classifications are football only you can still see the enrollments for each individual school.

 

[sportscabbie]

What I mean is do they use the enrollment numbers that are used for football for basketball also or do they update the numbers to more recent data as 1 student + or - could make a difference of a school being in 1 class or the other. I realize some co-ops are football only as there are also co-ops that are basketball only. But even though some of the co-ops for football classifications are football only you can still see the enrollments for each individual school.

Example: Exeter-Milligan/Friend is a football only co-op with E-M's enrollment 19 and Friend's is 23. So for boys basketball do they use 19 E-M and 23 for Friend or do they use updated data as the numbers used for football obviously would change slightly for some schools when the classifications for basketball come out.

 

[Llama57]

What I mean is do they use the enrollment numbers that are used for football for basketball also or do they update the numbers to more recent data as 1 student + or - could make a difference of a school being in 1 class or the other. I realize some co-ops are football only as there are also co-ops that are basketball only. But even though some of the co-ops for football classifications are football only you can still see the enrollments for each individual school.

Numbers are already set for 2020/2021. Go to "enrollment numbers" on this page & they have combined, boys, and girls.
https://nsaahome.org/schools/

 

[TC53]

Once the enrollment numbers are certified by the Department of Education the NSAA adopts them for the whole school year. That's usually in the December of the previous school year.

In the old days, it worked differently. The NSAA (or, heck, maybe the NDE was involved) would pick a day in September and that would be the official enrollment day for that school year. Classifications didn't need to be done until basketball season because in pre-football playoff times, there were no classifications for football.

The newspaper ratings would use the previous year classes for football ratings for the first couple weeks of the season and then move teams to new classes when the update was made. Sometimes a team would have a high-Class D rating early in the year, not lose a game, but be re-classified to Class C, and disappear from Gregg McBride's ratings.

I've heard stories of schools trying to manipulate the September date by encouraging 'farm kids' to stay out of school 'to work' until after the date, and artificially keep their enrollment lower. I don't know how true those stories are.