Baseballs Rumor Mill: Don't shoot the messenger

[Todd4State]

I see most of the decent baseball posters have already quit trying. We should nevAr miss the postseason down 20 players!!1! Coinz blew out the arms and made them all leave early!1

The worst part in all of this is having to hear Pat's coinz is the suk idea regurgitated into all eternity off an SEC championship and our first national seed.

It's kind of like one of those message board theory things where it's would you be OK with two losing seasons in a five year span if we go to the finals in Omaha and win the SEC in that same span? I'm guessing a lot of people on here would say yes. Those accomplishments are better than Ole Miss and almost as good as LSU in the same span- LSU has one more Omaha appearance with a SEC title mixed in during the same span. And our current coach was a huge part of LSU's success in that span (2013-2017) and currently as well.

Under Cohen our highs were really, really, high and our lows were rock bottom low.

I agree though that we should be more consistent and that the lows should be three seed in a regional instead of we won 20 games and look like we have never played the game before.

I think Cohen left at a good time regardless of how this year turns out. I think Cann will give us a good solid foundation and evaluate talent and signability better. We need to get back to having an identity as a team that outworks and outhustles our opponents and plays solid baseball every game. And I do think we would be a lot better even if we had half the Tommy John surgeries we've had- and even then that would be way above the norm for a college baseball team much less the seven that we actually do have.

Another thing is Cann doesn't really have his staff in place and he hasn't even had a full fall to work with our players. My guess is Cann will make some staff changes in the offseason and at the same time he will establish a foundation of how he wants things done.

 

[Joe Schmedlap]

...perfect storms. What are the odds?
"That's baseball"
"Cohen recruited for the old ball"
"Everybody graduated"

You know, it's not that people aren't patient or can't see the issues at hand.
I think it's that these "prefect storm" type excuses are wearing thin.
We are one of a handful of programs in this entire country that give a rat's *** about baseball.
And yet we seem to have these "perfect storm" moments every couple of years.

I am in no way, shape,form or fashion pinning this on Cann.
He truly is a victim of this storm - whether natural or induced.
But to continue to trot out the "victim of a perfect storm" excuse for Cohen is a wee bit Pollyannaish.

Blarney!!!

 

[mcdawg22]

It's amazing how this kind of crap only ever gets any play(and it is ALL that's talked about) -- when we struggle. Not only that -- players that see any controversy in their youth or don't light the SEC on fire immediately -- 3/4 of this message board writes off as failures that will never amount to much. You'd think the lesson would be learned with all the cliff jumping during/after 2015 -- but it never is learned. How many of you denied the talent level of the players in that class -- most of which dealt with injuries that set them a year behind a normal schedule? A bunch of you did. But you've forgotten about that -- in order the do the same thing again now.

This team's issue isn't the inmates running the asylum. It's just another perfect storm of circumstances and people digging into the behind the scenes stuff because the on-field product isn't very good. No one raised hell when half the team was at the bars Saturday night when we were hosting in 2013. Presumably because we won.
Some of us warned a long way in advance that this kind of year could be coming. Ultimately, this team is still close to being good, even besides the fact that it lost 11 players to MLB last year to go with 7 season-ending arm surgeries, another nagging pitching injury, our 2B never being able to get healthy yet, our presumed starting catcher having his head up his own ***, and another of our backup catchers being down with nagging stuff. How many games have we not had a single AB with the chance to win in the 8th or 9th? Not too many of them. We're battling -- just not quite there given the circumstances. Unlike Lowe and Kruger, a bunch of these guys are a year away -- and the meat of our staff is 2 years away given the timing of their surgery. It sucks but there is nothing to be done about it now.

I didn't love the Cohen-to-AD idea -- and I didn't love the Canni hire. But it's where we are at now and we have to let it play out. I already know I can't prevent the freak out -- so I'll probably just zone out and be IRL productive for most of this season, then check back in when everyone goes back to the Cape.

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[aTotal360]

Gold, Jerry!

 

[Shamoan]

its what he does. you make statement x and he reads y z and jumps to completely unintended conclusions. for example, loafers 17ed us means we should fire cann.

 

[NTDawg]

the rabbi keeping it real

 

[KurtRambis4]

You're dumb*

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