Bardo with play all 40 if needed.

Mr. Magoo1

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Loved that comment haha. Watching the game. When college coaches say, “man its tough we played thursday then sunday, tired legs. Haha give me a break. These kids play 6 games on a saturday and sunday like every weekend in high school at aau tourneys

exactly right. This “tired” nonsense is such a stupid excuse. If a game goes to two OTs, I get it, but games on another day are just an excuse.
 

MLBash93

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Loved that comment haha. Watching the game. When college coaches say, “man its tough we played thursday then sunday, tired legs. Haha give me a break. These kids play 6 games on a saturday and sunday like every weekend in high school at aau tourneys

I think that's a bit different, AAU ball is like all star pick up games. Not as demanding physically or mentally. I understand your point from a conditioning standpoint though.
 

YoucancallmeRay

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You're definitely more tired at the end of a game than earlier in the game. That's why you practice foul shots at the end of practice and why your shots can be off at the end of a game. That's why you need a decent bench, so that your prime line-up can be as fresh as possible in late game situations. Obviously kids can play 40 minutes, but if you do you won't be as efficient at the end of the game.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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You're definitely more tired at the end of a game than earlier in the game. That's why you practice foul shots at the end of practice and why your shots can be off at the end of a game. That's why you need a decent bench, so that your prime line-up can be as fresh as possible in late game situations. Obviously kids can play 40 minutes, but if you do you won't be as efficient at the end of the game.
I honestly do not understand people who cannot understand why players need rests during a game.

Sometimes your body used more oxygen that it can replenish in strenuous activities.

In fact, the way we play D.. you want your players pushing the envelope all the time.

Yes.. they can go 40.. but they will adjust HOW HARD they play to make that possible.

It is something that coaches have to watch and know what each player can do. A good player at 70% can be beat by a lesser player at 90% "freshness".
 

RU848789

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I honestly do not understand people who cannot understand why players need rests during a game.

Sometimes your body used more oxygen that it can replenish in strenuous activities.

In fact, the way we play D.. you want your players pushing the envelope all the time.

Yes.. they can go 40.. but they will adjust HOW HARD they play to make that possible.

It is something that coaches have to watch and know what each player can do. A good player at 70% can be beat by a lesser player at 90% "freshness".
Agreed with the exception of where the drop-off to the bench is huge and if it's a tight game. That's why Corey Sanders played so many minutes for us, but most of our guys don't have to (Myles is the closest and for him the bigger issue is probably fouling if he plays 40, plus a lot of big guys don't have as much stamina).
 

hiwater

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Agreed with the exception of where the drop-off to the bench is huge and if it's a tight game. That's why Corey Sanders played so many minutes for us, but most of our guys don't have to (Myles is the closest and for him the bigger issue is probably fouling if he plays 40, plus a lot of big guys don't have as much stamina).
A lot of bigs appear that way in the game, but that is not the case. Leaning, pushing and shoving while jockeying for position in the post is like lifting weights and running in water at times. It takes much more energy than trying to stay with or in front of your man with jock strap defense.
 
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knight82

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I remember when UConn won five games in five days to win the Big East tournament. Someone asked one of the players why fatigue didn't do them in at some point. The answer was games aren't nearly as hard and tiring as one of coach Calhoun's practices.
 

Knights 1212

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They should try running a 5K or 10K cross country race in high school or college. Runners don't get breaks during a race.
 

bac2therac

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its not sustainable for stretches of games but yes if you need to dig one out you have to ride with the guys who can produce
 

Scarlet Shack

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Part of the reason why you need to use the bench and keep minutes to 30 is that you save the shortening of the bench to the NCAA tourney when you have a team that has the energy to do it.
 

hiwater

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They should try running a 5K or 10K cross country race in high school or college. Runners don't get breaks during a race.
I love this type of argument. It is a bad comparison. When you are running a 5k, you are dictating your own pace without the physicality of banging or wrestling for position. Reacting to someone else, stopping, jumping, starting, and using explosive energy while trying stop, start, jump, shoot, pass, or handle the ball with skill while running a team concept are completely different animals. You can not objectively compare the two. It's just dishonest. You could be a top Marathoner and it will not help much with playing basketball in a team concept.
 
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RUTGERZ_R00LZ

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FWIW, you can get tired playing all 40 minutes of a basketball game, especially if you're in a run and gun game. OTOH, playing 4 games in a row is not a physical drain for these guys. Just my opinion.
 

RUinPinehurst

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Get off my lawn! You guys sound old and hangry! LOL. Lighten up. We're going dancing....
 

hoquat63

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Today’s womens game, three players logged 40 minutes and a fourth 39. Got a W first game back from long Covid break.
 

BillyC80

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For me it’s not a question of whether a guy can play 40 or not, it’s more a question of how effective they will be with little or no rest.
 

RUInsanityToo

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For me it’s not a question of whether a guy can play 40 or not, it’s more a question of how effective they will be with little or no rest.

Yep. The entire roster is young and conditioned enough to play 40 mins over multiple games. The question is how effective those minutes will be against competition that might be rested - especially considering RU's high focus on expending energy on the defensive end.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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There is no question that if a player plays all 40 minutes, there will be times when they are not giving 100%, whereas a fresh person off the bench might. However, there is also a good chance that 80% of a starter could be more valuable than 100% of a bench player.

Where the argument really falls apart is when people say a player’s effort is not sustainable when games are on different days. That’s mostly nonsense if the players are getting normal rest each night. 5 games in 5 days becomes more of a mental issue than a physical one.