Jabari Parker literally came out and spoke out against 1 & done in 2012 when we were the focal point of it. If you still want to count guys as losses like him against us then so be it. But it simply isn’t as Cut and dry.
Banchero commits to duke
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Thank you, the clowns have been out lately smh
Then to do it on Derby Day he was well aware of the impact of his decision an that should symbolize the size of the victory. UK has had some of their own recently at that.
Jabari Parker - "I didn't like the whole O&D thing at Uk"
- leaves Duke after 1 year
The program is as fake as Pamela Anderson. The players are full of ****, coach K is full of ****, ESPN is full of **** for promoting it. It's no different than the national media backing their preferred choice in the news. Without them, Duke would be seen for what they are. unfortunately we do not have a media to tell the entire story anymore.
Imagine ESPN running real stories of all the disgruntled players, coach K's lies to recruits, the Zion debacle. They wouldn't get a single top 5 class right now. As it were, players and families know they will have a much easier and pampered road by choosing Duke, and the media / NCAA will rejoice, so they keep going there despite all of the evidence that suggest it's not the place for 1Ndone athletes.
Can anyone name a single top rated recruit that played all year and left duke:
A - not disgruntled at all.
B - lived up to the hype fully
C - had no negative attention around their recruitment
D - seemed to improve
I can't think of a single one. In this age of "business", Duke doesn't have the history with OAD, coach K doesn't have the pedigree to coach them, and Duke was always one of the least friendly to accept them. The only way it makes sense is from a business perspective and we aren't talking about the NBA.
I find it sickening and i mean sickening that the media promotes duke it’s gotten so bad casual NCAA basketball fans that only watch the tourney think duke is the greatest program of alltime and that UK is some scrub program that was only good in the 40s and 50s or as duke fans call “the WW2 days”
Too worried about getting Rupp's name off the Arena and abolished from UK bb history.
Tyus Jones, Tre Jones, RJ Barrett, Vernon Carey, Cassius stanley and more. That criteria is ridiculous as you are pretty much describing a perfect recruit.
I said OAD’s. Vernon Carey was disgruntled. Tre Jones was taught to foul and played multiple years. RJ Barrett is seen as one of the reasons you didn’t make a final four.
You’re not good at this reading thing are you?
No one is saying it's "cut and dry", but I am saying Cal wanted Parker to the extent that he, Davis, and Rose all went to watch Parker play at UIC together in order to sway him to UK. Before that, Cal took a trip to see Parker in September of 2011. Kentucky offered Parker a scholarship on the same trip.
Cal wanted him. That's the point.
To be honest I don’t know if I would put frank in there as he was a little underwhelming at times
How can you say Vernon was anywhere near disgruntled? And just because RJ didn’t have a strong game doesn’t diminish the rest of the season where he finished first team all American
RJ Barrett was a black hole who was a member of the most underachieving team in, well, maybe the history of college basketball. And you can deny that, but here you won’t be allowed to ignore what the media told everyone for an entire year. Every bandwagon Duke fan alive was pumping it too. He’s been a cancer in the NBA and most certainly improved none from Duke. He was the same player coming in as he left.
Carey was disgruntled yes. As was ( I know why you left him out) Cameron Reddish.
Duke is a bad choice from a basketball perspective when we’re talking about OAD’s. When it comes to business before the NBA, and outside of traditional basketball Reasons for giving a commitment, they’re your man.
Enjoy the perks while K is living. There won’t be a legitimate college basketball season this year, so his time is just about up. Banchero probably won’t ever suit up anyway and that’s why he chose Duke. Media attention when there’s nothing else to gain.
Also you saying that duke is a “poor” choice for OADS is laughable and almost discredits your argument. I can understand why you might argue Kentucky being a slightly better option but in no way is Duke a poor choice for OADS.
The Parker family was full of crap all along. Parker's father also insisted how he doesn't want Jabari getting "caught up in hype/attention" and how they keep things quiet but allowed an SI Cover Feature on him being the best player since LeBron James. Parker wasn't even the best player from Chicago in the decade--Derrick Rose, and AD were superior. Wiggins proved to be a better prospect/player that Summer as well and moved to top of board for UK's Wing recruits over Parker.
Some people think UK doing their job and showing up at players games means guys are higher priorities then others. Parker was recruited hard but after evaluations, things change and Wiggins was top priority at that position and clearly had outplayed/surpassed Parker in that class as well. Wiggins was a bigger L in recruiting that year then Parker but if you focus on who you don't get, you'll think the staff never lands anyone.
I haven’t heard anything about Carey being disgruntled. Carter was the big that was disgruntled a few years back.
Yes, Carter was supposed to be the focal point of that team but Duke got Bagley to reclass. I think it was more of his parents being upset rather than Wendell himself.
Exactly. Carter handled it very well and overall his family did too. Carter still had a good season and was a top 10 pick. His mom's words may have been taken out of context as she was seen at a couple of Duke games the next year, but may have been a P.R. move by the program.
Every elite program going to have players that are disgruntled or feel they got the short end of the stick.
Clarke's mother was encouraging Terrence Clarke to visit Duke, she liked the school and it's reputation. Clarke said he had 26 scholarship offers but never received an offer from Duke. He has never stepped foot on Duke's campus. He never got an invite for an official visit. Clarke never mentioned Duke as a school recruiting him hard (he listed Memphis, UCLA, Louisville, Kentucky).
So if Duke wanted him badly they sure did a bad job showing any interest in him then... When Duke really wants someone they will give you an offer unless you are just a backup plan to them. Same with Kentucky, if they want you really bad they will at least give you an offer and discuss visits!
Kentucky has beaten Duke plenty of times for recruits. BJ Boston & Gabriel come to mind. Knox was recruited by Duke too, although UNC was Kentucky's main competition for him. But Clarke was not heavily pursued by Duke at all. Just like many recruits use Kentucky's name for window dressing when making decisions, recruits will also put up Duke's name as well even when they weren't truly a priority.
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Again, if you choose to believe this, fine. I know Clarke's recruitment about as well as anyone and there are several here who can tell you that privately I not only told them what was going to happen but did so months in advance. Duke has great staff/well informed. They were going after him/reached out and got word. If it makes you feel better they didn't offer, fine. They wanted him/liked him but did what all good programs do when they get word of someone being locked up--moved on.
To act like this was some guy they evaluated and passed is being a homer or refusing to accept reality.
We had UK media who were out of the loop on this one and kept saying he wouldn't reclass and that Josh Christopher and Jalen Green were the guys to watch. Christopher was a guy that same person who told me of Clarke mentioned would never be a take due to his attitude. Green was great and they loved him but knew he wasn't college bound, not to mention Clarke was favorite of Cal's