Bama opens -6

TheStateUofMS · Nov 9, 2015

See it up to Bama -7.5 some places. Little lower than I thought...I bet line moves closer to 8 or 9.

At least our strong suit is their weakness-our passing attack is our strength, their pass D, although still pretty good, is their weakness.

At least we're not coming in one dimensional like LSU on the ground game.

RebelBruiser · Nov 9, 2015

If you're going to beat Bama this year, you're going to have to throw it or beat them with a running QB making plays outside of the pocket.

Your weakness (running the ball) plays against their strength, meaning you weren't going to do that anyway. It's a good match up for you on that side of the ball.

I don't know as much on the other side of the ball, because Bama does a little bit of both well. They run and they throw. They can beat you with Henry between the tackles. They can beat you with Drake on the edge. They can beat you with the passing game, though it's probably their weakest point.

All in all, I like the match up for you. I think your team and ours are very similar this year in terms of strengths and weaknesses with a few minor differences here and there. We matched up well with them, or as well as you could, so I expect you'll do the same.

All that makes me wonder why Miles and company didn't have any alternate game plan. Did they really think they'd just walk in and run through Bama? They had no back up plan if "give it to Fournette off tackle 30 times" didn't work.

patdog · Nov 9, 2015

RebelBruiser said:
All that makes me wonder why Miles and company didn't have any alternate game plan. Did they really think they'd just walk in and run through Bama? They had no back up plan if "give it to Fournette off tackle 30 times" didn't work.

Because Fournette off tackle 30 times is literally the only offense LSU has. Against most teams, it's plenty good.

Bane.sixpack · Nov 9, 2015

RebelBruiser said:
If you're going to beat Bama this year, you're going to have to throw it or beat them with a running QB making plays outside of the pocket.

Your weakness (running the ball) plays against their strength, meaning you weren't going to do that anyway. It's a good match up for you on that side of the ball.

I don't know as much on the other side of the ball, because Bama does a little bit of both well. They run and they throw. They can beat you with Henry between the tackles. They can beat you with Drake on the edge. They can beat you with the passing game, though it's probably their weakest point.

All in all, I like the match up for you. I think your team and ours are very similar this year in terms of strengths and weaknesses with a few minor differences here and there. We matched up well with them, or as well as you could, so I expect you'll do the same.

All that makes me wonder why Miles and company didn't have any alternate game plan. Did they really think they'd just walk in and run through Bama? They had no back up plan if "give it to Fournette off tackle 30 times" didn't work.

I thought we'd at least be Rebelbruiser-free until Wednesday!

LawDawg97 · Nov 9, 2015

Thanks for the insight

RebelBruiser said:
If you're going to beat Bama this year, you're going to have to throw it or beat them with a running QB making plays outside of the pocket.

This has been said quite extensively by our own fanbase. After that we play Arkansas...any advice on how to beat them?

Crazy Cotton · Nov 9, 2015

Here's Miles gameplan for the second half of the State game, and why it almost bit him in the ***. They had one attempt at a "passing" series, and it went nowhere. We gave them to much credit for having a gameplan in the first half; Bama didn't bother. I expect Ole Miss to see the same, and I think you win:

 Punt3 plays, 7 yards, 2:06
(14:50 - 3rd) Leonard Fournette run for 2 yds to the LSU 26
(14:10 - 3rd) Leonard Fournette run for 3 yds to the LSU 29
(13:50 - 3rd) Brandon Harris pass complete to DeSean Smith for 2 yds to the LSU 31

Touchdown7 plays, 75 yards, 3:16

(9:55 - 3rd) Leonard Fournette run for 20 yds to the LSU 45 for a 1ST down
(9:45 - 3rd) Leonard Fournette run for 3 yds to the LSU 48
(9:15 - 3rd) Darrel Williams run for 2 yds to the 50 yard line
(8:25 - 3rd) Brandon Harris pass complete to Travin Dural for 9 yds to the MisSt 41 for a 1ST down
(7:45 - 3rd) Brandon Harris run for 18 yds to the MisSt 23 for a 1ST down
(7:20 - 3rd) Darrel Williams run for 5 yds to the MisSt 18
(6:48 - 3rd) Leonard Fournette run for 18 yds for a TD, (Trent Domingue KICK)

Punt4 plays, 20 yards, 1:56
(5:52 - 3rd) Leonard Fournette run for 1 yd to the LSU 31
(5:28 - 3rd) MISSISSIPPI ST Penalty, Face Mask (15 yards) (Chris Jones) to the LSU 46 for a 1ST down
(5:23 - 3rd) Brandon Harris pass complete to Travin Dural for 4 yds to the 50 yard line
(4:55 - 3rd) Brandon Harris pass complete to Travin Dural for no gain to the 50 yard line
(4:13 - 3rd) Brandon Harris pass incomplete

Punt3 plays, -1 yard, 2:09

(14:30 - 4th) Travin Dural run for a loss of 3 yards to the LSU 16
(13:50 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for a loss of 3 yards to the LSU 13
(13:10 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 5 yds to the LSU 18

Punt 9 plays, 42 yards, 4:46

(10:10 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 9 yds to the LSU 24
(9:55 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 17 yds to the LSU 41 for a 1ST down
(9:15 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 2 yds to the LSU 43
(8:35 - 4th) Darrel Williams run for a loss of 3 yards to the LSU 40
(8:00 - 4th) Brandon Harris run for 14 yds to the MisSt 46 for a 1ST down
(7:30 - 4th) Darrel Williams run for 7 yds to the MisSt 39 LSU Penalty, Offensive Holding (-10 Yards) to the MisSt 49
(6:50 - 4th) Darrel Williams run for 3 yds to the MisSt 46
(6:20 - 4th) Darrel Williams run for 3 yds to the MisSt 43
(5:40 - 4th) Brandon Harris pass incomplete to Malachi Dupre

Punt5 plays, 17 yards, 2:28
(3:47 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 6 yds to the LSU 35
(3:05 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 8 yds to the LSU 43 for a 1ST down
(2:30 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 7 yds to the 50 yard line
(1:47 - 4th) Darrel Williams run for no gain to the 50 yard line
(1:42 - 4th) Leonard Fournette run for 1 yd to the MisSt 49
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ShrubDog · Nov 9, 2015

RB all it takes is 5 turnovers and a prayer off a bama helment to win. No need for a story book.

boatsandhoes · Nov 9, 2015

Sort of what worries me...

Mullen seems to do that, have a plan A and that's it. 2014 bama, om, ga tech all stopped the qb draw. After that it was like we were out of answers. the second half of bama we got it figured out, but it was too late. Mullen is stubborn as hell at times. I say all that praying he will prove me wrong, and come out guns blazing.

Saban is like mini belicheck. He is going to take away whatever you love to do, and force you to do whatever it is that makes you most uncomfortable. For us, I assume that means they will sell out to stop our passing, and show them we can run against the front 4. I say he'll drop 6-7 in coverage, try to get pressure with 4, and spy dak with one.

Against lsu, he took away fornette and that was it. Harris wasn't going to beat him with his arm from the pocket.

mcdawg22 · Nov 9, 2015

If I had a bookie I'd put 100 on Bama just to keep it close so we have a chance.

was21 · Nov 9, 2015

what worries me is that Saban hates mistakes. He hates for his team to make mistakes. He also hates for the other team to make mistakes. It makes him very angry whenever any team makes mistakes. If the other team makes mistakes, it makes him so angry that he makes them pay for it. There is a price to pay. He demands it. He usually gets it.

RebelBruiser · Nov 10, 2015

LawDawg97 said:
This has been said quite extensively by our own fanbase. After that we play Arkansas...any advice on how to beat them?

Cover the tight end.

No seriously, our defensive issues all year have been because of our back 7 not knowing their assignments. Arkansas just used bootlegs and crossing routes to create enough confusion that we left wide open easy throws all night.

They didn't get their running game going on us much at all until late, and even then it was never consistent. I think you'll stop or slow their running game without a ton of difficulty. The question will be whether their offense will will be able to confuse your secondary so easily like it did ours.

Offensively, you should be able to throw on them at will, similar to what we did. They aren't athletic enough on the back end to cover good receivers like ours, which you have as well.

RebelBruiser · Nov 10, 2015

I agree that we might beat LSU. Our defensive issues, like I said, have been when our back 7 didn't know their assignments. Against LSU, it's pretty easy. They don't try to confuse you really at all.

Obviously, they can still manhandle a lot of opponents with Fournette left and right, but I suspect we will have success against them, because our front 4 does a pretty strong job, and they won't cause mental mistakes for our back 7.

I said the same thing when I was watching the second half of LSU-MSU. Diaz basically went with 10 players at the line of scrimmage every snap, and LSU seemed content to keep running into the teeth of it. Just one early down play action tight end seam route would've likely been a TD, but they kept pounding. I expect they'll be just as stubborn against us. I'm not predicting a win, because we're shizophrenic, like I've been saying, but they shouldn't give our defense as much trouble as Arkansas did.

msstate7 · Nov 10, 2015

mcdawg22 said:
If I had a bookie I'd put 100 on Bama just to keep it close so we have a chance.

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