Bam and Knox

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Have to see how this shakes out. I still think there will be limited punishment. Maybe just vacated games. The Knox situation is the tough one. If it's just a meal, then that's pretty easy to repay back. I think ultimately Cal survives unless he knew about it. If he did, then kick his *** to the curb.
Sorry
why the **** would Cal know about an NBA agent paying a player. If he did then so did K and Self and all the rest

jesus christ can people read
 

dorkmeister

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I wonder, if the kids who took large payouts will be forced to update their tax returns and pay taxes on any money. If kids agree to do that then it will all come out who got paid and who didn't. That might be one way to fight this
 
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This will drag out for years. Luckily, it doesn't appear to involve the university or its coaches. Don't see losing scholarships or much else coming from this other than the loss of games that are already in the rear view mirror. If all Knox took was some money for a Happy Meal, I would play him and have him mail a check to the dude that paid for the meal.
 

Stenchymouse

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and how can you prove if a school knew or not??
If they have proof "see Louisville or Auburn" that they knew...

Then there needs to be punishment.

If they have NO PROOF that the school knew, then that's that.

You can't prove that some DIDN'T happen.
 

Mr_GG

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You know why a**hole? Because I’m a huge UK fan and have been for 40 years and follow EVERY move they make good or bad. Living in Knoxville, I constantly take more **** than you ever will being a Kentucky fan. This is NOT what Cal or Kentucky needs right now as the program is on the edge of turning the corner right now and potentially making a deep run but all you want to do is start a fight on a message board. Grow up man.

**** just got real on campus and these two douche bags ( Thamel/Forde) just mic dropped on college BB and Kentucky.

Knox sits and the season is over.

Actually, I don't want to start a fight on a message board, but it seems you certainly do after reading your post lol. It kind of makes me happy tho after having to see your avatar pop up after every loss. As far as being a UK fan, I'm not sure you really are.
 

Coyote89_rivals121762

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The NCAA needs to get sensible. Paying Bam money is different than a couple meals for Knox. They cant cancel a season over 70-200$$. There has to be some sanity.
Meals are a secondary violation whereas the loan payments are major violations and would make a player ineligible. Since both of the players who received loans are already gone to the NBA, eligibility may not be affected, but sanctions could follow.
 

gracetoyou

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Knox did not take any money so why in the crap is this even a story?

Noel is different. So what...go ahead & vacate that awful season.
 
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So agents talk to high school kids, give them money and gifts, keep an itemized list (lol) in a desk somewhere. And I would find it hard to believe only one agent is doing it. That has nothing to do with the college programs. Louisville and Arizona and Auburn etc had coaches arranging payments to players via shoe companies, that is completely different. Sandy Bell is probably mad as **** right now.
 
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Matt Jones thinks the Bam loan is a problem
Of course it’s a problem, it’s against the rules (impermissible benefits) which likely makes him ineligible ipso facto. If it comes to that, who knows how the NCAA will proceed.

First thought was, well, all these names and amounts, nothing like the $100,000 to Bowen and the $150,000 to the other kid in the Louisville/Adidas mess. Then I realized, this is just stuff Any Miller did trying to get clients. The real money came from the shoe companies, and we haven’t seen anything about that yet. And who knows how much we’ll see, no way to predict what evidence the FBI has will get out...
 

bluejesus

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That's true, but the IRS has rules on what qualifies on what is or isn't actually a loan. I'm sure the way this money was changed hands wouldn't fall under the "acceptable loan" category.

exactly....i mean it just lists it under loans....wouldn't real loans have to have additional paperwork spelling out terms and it would also have to have signatures....and Bam would have been a minor so does that require a co-signer?? like a parent
 

kyjeff1

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It’s ok to meet with agents, yes. It’s not ok to have them pay for meals
Well then the agent should be heavily fined and removed from places where he can continue to break rules. Punishing the kids and/or the school that had nothing to do with it is stupid.
 

senonesy

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Well then the agent should be heavily fined and removed from places where he can continue to break rules. Punishing the kids and/or the school that had nothing to do with it is stupid.
Didn’t say it wasn’t stupid. Just saying the rule.
 
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Occurs to me the smart thing is turn off the news and not read anything online for two days - there is already so much frothing, so much hyperventilating, people making dumb guesses and unsupported conclusions and even betraying a basic ignorance of rules......tune back in next week when hopefully sobriety has somewhat returned......
 

MWes11

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Lol. It is what it is at this point. If this is truly just the tip of the iceberg, then every school will be implicated in some fashion. Does the NCAA wanna go down that rabbit hole and bite the hand that feeds them? (the schools). If so, bye bye NCAA, and hello to a new governing body. At this rate, every school will have to vacate their title going back 20 years.
 
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By the way, first question is credibility, does the NCAA think this spreadsheet, just handwritten notes, is enough to tell a kid he’s ineligible? We’re not talking about a recorded call with people arranging a $100,000 payment.
 

JAC71

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There should be a way to sanction aau ball, I believe that's where all this stuff starts. Agents and just bad influences are gonna find their way to these kids. It is what it is so the only thing you can do to protect yourself is recruit 3 star players the kind that can barely dribble and walk at the same time.
 
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