Ball too much in Jacobs hands hurts the flow

[Ru-baby]

Always has and tonight again. Yes many reasons for tonights disaster but as soon as Jacob dribbled in place on multiple possesions while everyone else stood around, trouble seemed on the horizon.
Absolutely belive Jacob is a key part of the team-but not as the guy the ball goes through.
That needs to be Geo- season turned when it went back to being his team.

Jacob off the bench and if hes on- kerp him in. If the flow stagnates,move on.

btw Mag looked good in his minutes

 

[bac2therac]

yep...I noticed this as well, stays in his hands too long, we are now back to the same exact thing we had in our losing streak, too much Jacob and everyone standing, we shook that up and won some games, now we are back to same old again. Its not Jacobs fault per se, its the way he is used.

But the issue now is once again multiple players look abysmal, tonight all of them, we can get on Mathis but Caleb and Mulcahy were dreadful.

 

[MCKnight]

Bingo. I have said i don’t think geo and Jacob mesh well. JY plays well often When the team does not. He’s our one player thats effort and motor is consistent, so he is hard to knock. But he plays at one speed and style different than everyone else

 

[RU-ROCS]

Always has and tonight again. Yes many reasons for tonights disaster but as soon as Jacob dribbled in place on multiple possesions while everyone else stood around, trouble seemed on the horizon.
Absolutely belive Jacob is a key part of the team-but not as the guy the ball goes through.
That needs to be Geo- season turned when it went back to being his team.

Jacob off the bench and if hes on- kerp him in. If the flow stagnates,move on.

btw Mag looked good in his minutes

Flow? What flow? There was zero, zippo, nada! That part I blame on Pike for not demanding that the players share the game on Offense.

 

[bac2therac]

anyone see how the last place team in the conference came down confidently ran and offense, moved the ball and took shots in the flow

then watch RU's mess of whatever they are trying to accomplish in offense dribbling, not moving, running the shot clock down and chucking, its as if Pikeill and the coaching staff are oblivious on what the opponents are going to throw at them on defense

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Criticize Young’s playmaking all you want but I’m convinced if he wasn’t in there tonight we might not have broken 20 points.

I think tonight was coaching malpractice but any coach looks better when players can actually hit open shots. Just look at the start. Some nobody with a career high of 14 points hits 4 threes in a row and our player who is nominated for all sorts of national awards clangs three open threes in the same time period and we’re in a deep hole that we couldn’t dig ourselves out of.

Nebraska reminded me of the 1990-91 Princeton team that blew out our last NCAA team at our place with precision passing and threes while we were playing like 5 individuals who had lost their composure.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Carino noticed that Geo and JY do not pair well together in the backcourt. He said during RU’s early success, JY was starting and Geo was coming off the bench after his ankle injury. Then Geo was back to full strength and they started together. That’s when the losing streak happened. When they won four straight, Geo was starting and JY was coming off the bench.

I think Pike should put Caleb back in the starting lineup, especially with the way he guarded Carr the first time around. JY should be our super sub. Get him on the floor at the first sign of trouble so he can provide a spark.

 

[brucelaw8]

Criticize Young’s playmaking all you want but I’m convinced if he wasn’t in there tonight we might not have broken 20 points.

I think tonight was coaching malpractice but any coach looks better when players can actually hit open shots. Just look at the start. Some nobody with a career high of 14 points hits 4 threes in a row and our player who is nominated for all sorts of national awards clangs three open threes in the same time period and we’re in a deep hole that we couldn’t dig ourselves out of.

Nebraska reminded me of the 1990-91 Princeton team that blew out our last NCAA team at our place with precision passing and threes while we were playing like 5 individuals who had lost their composure.

I mostly disagree with OP on this one.Clearly we are at our best with jacob out on the break & the ball his hands.In our half court sets he had the ball a lot vs IU,with 7 assists, with potential 4-5 others if not for drops and misses.If cutters are in motion, he will find them.Standing around is not required.Geo has not been able to create shots for himself or others(for the most part).Ditto Harper.Rebound & get out on the break & we will be at our best.One of our Bigs(cliff ) can really scoot too.I would like to see us press more also.
I just don't think we have a better point guard option than JY right now.Maybe it will be with Paul someday, but for now he is lost.Jacob has to start & play 30-35 minutes for us to succeed.

 

[JerseyB]

Always has and tonight again. Yes many reasons for tonights disaster but as soon as Jacob dribbled in place on multiple possesions while everyone else stood around, trouble seemed on the horizon.
Absolutely belive Jacob is a key part of the team-but not as the guy the ball goes through.
That needs to be Geo- season turned when it went back to being his team.

Jacob off the bench and if hes on- kerp him in. If the flow stagnates,move on.

btw Mag looked good in his minutes

He's that closest thing that we have to a point guard. Stats don't lie

 

[RUJMM78]

Young has been the most consistent double digit scorer even when not starting.The team success or failure ,however,rests with Harper and Baker scoring in high double figures.They scored over 40 points against Indiana but less than 20 points against Nebraska.The rest of the team simply can't make up the difference in scoring.There are no easy fixes at the end of the season.

 

[RUsojo]

Oh god you guys have to be kidding me with this tonight

 

[G- RUnit]

Our leading scorer hits for two points in the first half, misses three very make able threes and you guys are criticizing JY?

 

[RUsojo]

Our leading scorer hits for two points in the first half, misses three very make able threes and you guys are criticizing JY?

Insanity. Literally the thinking that got us into this mess in January.

Geo goes 2-10 in 28 (3 TO)
Mathis 1-8 in 20 minutes (1 TO)
Caleb 0-3 in 21 minutes (1 TO)

And the solution is get Young out LOL

 

[RUBOB72]

Insanity. Literally the thinking that got us into this mess in January.

Geo goes 2-10 in 28 (3 TO)
Mathis 1-8 in 20 minutes (1 TO)
Caleb 0-3 in 21 minutes (1 TO)

And the solution is get Young out LOL

That is exactly the problem . Baker and Harper know seldom unless injured or in foul trouble are not seeing the bench. If they were playing lights out I get it but the inconsistency has been devastating to any offensive flow. No flow...No go.

 

[DirtyRU]

Always has and tonight again. Yes many reasons for tonights disaster but as soon as Jacob dribbled in place on multiple possesions while everyone else stood around, trouble seemed on the horizon.
Absolutely belive Jacob is a key part of the team-but not as the guy the ball goes through.
That needs to be Geo- season turned when it went back to being his team.

Jacob off the bench and if hes on- kerp him in. If the flow stagnates,move on.

btw Mag looked good in his minutes

Great post, spot on. JY is HUGE to our success but like you said, not as the primary ballhandler. It makes Geo stand around and Geo then becomes less aggressive/assertive. Confuses roles. In JY's defense, he was staying aggressive and trying to look for openings to score and let's be honest, he was one of the only people scoring. But he needs to realize that we are at our best when we ball rotate/pass, we're not effective as a dribble-heavy offense.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Quietly, McConnell has been horrendous. 28% from the field and 22% from three for the season. Can blame rust at the beginning but can't now.

 

[Ru-baby]

Jacob is a spark player and mostly (last night excepted when he was repeatedly torched) a standout defender. His scoring however, comes mostly in individual effort that results in standing and watching from other player, i.e flow issues. Yes he can get his own shot arguably as good as anyone but his high scoring efforts have not usually correlated with good wins. The issues seem fairly obvious, and just saw Carino today note the issues with Geo and Jacob in at the same time. Not sure it's all that debatable a point. To me, this is Geo's team and when he has the ball in his hands we are better. Don't see the same result when JY has the ball in his hands predominantly.

Love JY on the break and as a spark. No reason his minutes can not equal starter minutes if he gets in and the flow is working like Indiana. Yesterday it only made a tough situation worse. Supersub is where his best use to RU lies.

As to Mag would like to see him get two -5 minutes a game for defensive intensity.

 

[Caliknight]

JY is the only thing close to a consistent gamer in terms of effort, but there is no question he and Baker on the court together simply doesn't work.

I hate to put Caleb in the starting 5 because his offensive game is just so wretched, but if I am Pike, I am starting:

Myles
Harper
Caleb
Paul
Baker

As soon as Baker starts missing shots I am putting Young in.


I am also playing Myles and Cliff together at times and having Doucure ready to play minutes. Especially when Harper can't shoot a ball in an ocean Our rebounding is crap and maybe those two on the floor together will help.

What I wouldn't do is what we are doing. Indiana was great, but that was an outlier. It's desperation time. Especially on the road.

 

[ru8081]

I will just say this. Imagine this team without Young. Enough said.