B1G, PAC-12, ACC exploring alliance…

QuaoarsKing

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If I'm Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, instead of pouting I'm scheming and plotting to somehow buy my way into the SEC. None of the other conferences are going to add them.

Maybe if they offered to take reduced revenue, say start out at only 20% payment to them, which could go up 1% for every SEC football game they win or something. That's going to be more money than whatever the rump 12 gets on its next TV deal, and maybe the SEC would think about it.
 

ronpolk

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If I'm Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, instead of pouting I'm scheming and plotting to somehow buy my way into the SEC. None of the other conferences are going to add them.

Maybe if they offered to take reduced revenue, say start out at only 20% payment to them, which could go up 1% for every SEC football game they win or something. That's going to be more money than whatever the rump 12 gets on its next TV deal, and maybe the SEC would think about it.

I hope nothing like that happens. I don’t want to open the can of worms on some programs getting a larger slice of the pie than others. In my opinion, if someone comes in they come in and get the same as everyone else. We won’t be on the good side of things if they start splitting up money preferentially
 

patdog

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It’s hard to see any of the remaining 4 conferences picking them up. But they deserve a seat at the table. Realignment in the last decade has been good for the SEC, but I think bad for college football. They need to either roll the clock back & go back to 6 major conferences of 10-12 teams each (not gonna happen), or make a complete break with 72 schools & realign into 8 groups of 9 with the group winners advancing to an8-team playoff.
 

patdog

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I'm guessing it would be more like an 8-game conference schedule for each team then 2 non-conference games with 1 against each of the other 2 conferences. It wouldn't work perfectly since 5 ACC schools already play Notre Dame and the PAC-12 only has 12 teams, but they're going to have to all 3 join forces somehow to even begin to match the expanded SEC.
 

dog12

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A Free Article from The Athletic:

Link.

The B1G and the ACC had better start getting ready . . . because current B1G teams (Ohio St., Michigan, or others) and ACC teams (North Carolina, Florida St., or others) will be targets of the next round of SEC expansion in the not too distant future.

The PAC-12? They needn't worry too much. Too far away. Pacific time zone.
 

patdog

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I know. And that's not good. I'm just glad we're in the SEC. Cause we're no different than Kansas St., Okie St. and Texas Tech other than that.
 

tribaldawg

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I know. And that's not good. I'm just glad we're in the SEC. Cause we're no different than Kansas St., Okie St. and Texas Tech other than that.

Well Kansas State has never won a team national championship so there’s that.
 

dog12

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If I'm Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, instead of pouting I'm scheming and plotting to somehow buy my way into the SEC. None of the other conferences are going to add them.

Maybe if they offered to take reduced revenue, say start out at only 20% payment to them, which could go up 1% for every SEC football game they win or something. That's going to be more money than whatever the rump 12 gets on its next TV deal, and maybe the SEC would think about it.


From the perspective of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, this would be a very bad idea. (my opinion)

Firstly, the SEC wouldn't permit either of those schools (or, any other school) to simply buy their way into the SEC . . . no matter what was offered.

Secondly, offering to take only a 20% payment would make Texas Tech and Oklahoma State look like beggars and chumps.

Texas Tech should be looking at getting into the PAC-12 or B1G, and Oklahoma State should be looking at getting into the B1G or ACC.
 

Smoked Toag

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This could work out for the B1G and PAC-12, as they are on a little stronger footing, but the ACC could still be plucked at any time. Much less leverage for them.

We are still the Southeastern Conference. Ohio State and Michigan are not coming, neither is USC or Oregon. However many of the ACC teams are prime candidates, so they gain nothing from this.

If I’m the ACC, I’m not doing anything to piss off the SEC. I’m also staying chummy with the Big 12 just in case you ever need them.
 

QuaoarsKing

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From the perspective of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, this would be a very bad idea. (my opinion)

Firstly, the SEC wouldn't permit either of those schools (or, any other school) to simply buy their way into the SEC . . . no matter what was offered.

Secondly, offering to take only a 20% payment would make Texas Tech and Oklahoma State look like beggars and chumps.

Texas Tech should be looking at getting into the PAC-12 or B1G, and Oklahoma State should be looking at getting into the B1G or ACC.

100% agree that any current Big 12 school who can get in to the ACC, Big 10, or Pac-12 should do it ASAP with no regrets. But it was already a pretty big longshot for any of them, and if those 3 conferences are responding to the SEC by aligning rather than by adding schools of their own, it's pretty much impossible.

The only schools that meet the academic standards of any of those conferences are Kansas and Iowa State, who are from small markets. Yes, any of those 3 conferences might bend their academic standards for a football powerhouse, but none of the remaining schools are. While there's a faint hope that the Big 10 could look at Kansas one day, or the ACC at West Virginia, in all likelihood those 8 Big 12 schools are stuck in a suddenly mid-major conference whose TV deal will be a fraction of the SEC TV deal.

Their best remaining bet is to scheme and plead with the SEC to go past 16, which I think is also unlikely but faintly possible. The SEC is going to want to gobble up ACC teams if we go past 16, but if this alliance is for real and holds together, who knows? Maybe schools like Kansas, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech get a look, especially if they're willing to debase themselves to sweeten the pot.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Doesn’t seem like the equality you desire in most cases.

Serious question, do you not understand the difference in "This is what I would do so if I'm Texas Tech and Oklahoma State" and "This is something that would be fair and equal overall" ?
 

paindonthurt_

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Do you not understand the reason people don’t get treated fairly sometimes? It’s Bc they do and accept things that aren’t fair and equal. They do it freely and many times knowingly.
 
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