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79eer

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Boomerwv said:
They assume not being indicted by Mueller is the same as being exonerated by Mueller. The truth is that if Mueller is 80% sure they committed crimes, he would not bring an indictment because his case isnt strong enough. Al Capone was the most notorious gangster in history, but he was never indicted on any murder charges they just didnt have the evidence. They had to use tax evasion to put him away.

Likewise, when you bring charges against the immediate family of the President you have to have an absolute slam dunk case. The report may well reflect that, which is why we should see it. He is very likely to have included reasons why he chose to not indict people in his report that will not be included in the Barr brief, since the DOJ typically doesnt discuss individuals that it doesn't indict.

This still ignores the other investigations spun off from Mueller. If I were Jr., and maybe to a lesser extent Kushner, I would be much more worried about the investigations into the Trump organization by the NY AG and question regarding campaign finance by the House and DOJ.

Mueller was never going to indict Trump while he was the sitting President and the House was never going to impeach without a sure victory in the Senate. There is potential that sealed indictments already exist, however.

Mueller did good work. He indicted 37 individuals or organizations I believe, and got convictions in every case that has been heard. He proved connections between Russia, Wikileaks, and the Trump campaign. He also found issues that opened up something like 4 or 5 other investigations that are still ongoing. The only thing he didnt do that I thought he might was an indictment of Jr., but I covered that topic above.

Lastly, I'm proud if the work Mueller did. This is an example of how a professional and sophisticated investigation should be handled as opposed to the way the Ken Star investigation was conducted.
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dave

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Boomerwv said:
They assume not being indicted by Mueller is the same as being exonerated by Mueller. The truth is that if Mueller is 80% sure they committed crimes, he would not bring an indictment because his case isnt strong enough. Al Capone was the most notorious gangster in history, but he was never indicted on any murder charges they just didnt have the evidence. They had to use tax evasion to put him away.

Likewise, when you bring charges against the immediate family of the President you have to have an absolute slam dunk case. The report may well reflect that, which is why we should see it. He is very likely to have included reasons why he chose to not indict people in his report that will not be included in the Barr brief, since the DOJ typically doesnt discuss individuals that it doesn't indict.

This still ignores the other investigations spun off from Mueller. If I were Jr., and maybe to a lesser extent Kushner, I would be much more worried about the investigations into the Trump organization by the NY AG and question regarding campaign finance by the House and DOJ.

Mueller was never going to indict Trump while he was the sitting President and the House was never going to impeach without a sure victory in the Senate. There is potential that sealed indictments already exist, however.

Mueller did good work. He indicted 37 individuals or organizations I believe, and got convictions in every case that has been heard. He proved connections between Russia, Wikileaks, and the Trump campaign. He also found issues that opened up something like 4 or 5 other investigations that are still ongoing. The only thing he didnt do that I thought he might was an indictment of Jr., but I covered that topic above.

Lastly, I'm proud if the work Mueller did. This is an example of how a professional and sophisticated investigation should be handled as opposed to the way the Ken Star investigation was conducted.
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Talking points are out. Bless your heart.
 
Airport

Airport

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Boomerwv said:
They assume not being indicted by Mueller is the same as being exonerated by Mueller. The truth is that if Mueller is 80% sure they committed crimes, he would not bring an indictment because his case isnt strong enough. Al Capone was the most notorious gangster in history, but he was never indicted on any murder charges they just didnt have the evidence. They had to use tax evasion to put him away.

Likewise, when you bring charges against the immediate family of the President you have to have an absolute slam dunk case. The report may well reflect that, which is why we should see it. He is very likely to have included reasons why he chose to not indict people in his report that will not be included in the Barr brief, since the DOJ typically doesnt discuss individuals that it doesn't indict.

This still ignores the other investigations spun off from Mueller. If I were Jr., and maybe to a lesser extent Kushner, I would be much more worried about the investigations into the Trump organization by the NY AG and question regarding campaign finance by the House and DOJ.

Mueller was never going to indict Trump while he was the sitting President and the House was never going to impeach without a sure victory in the Senate. There is potential that sealed indictments already exist, however.

Mueller did good work. He indicted 37 individuals or organizations I believe, and got convictions in every case that has been heard. He proved connections between Russia, Wikileaks, and the Trump campaign. He also found issues that opened up something like 4 or 5 other investigations that are still ongoing. The only thing he didnt do that I thought he might was an indictment of Jr., but I covered that topic above.

Lastly, I'm proud if the work Mueller did. This is an example of how a professional and sophisticated investigation should be handled as opposed to the way the Ken Star investigation was conducted.
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The clintons are a filthy bunch and there are plenty of rocks to look under for their crap.
 
Airport

Airport

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Boomerwv said:
They assume not being indicted by Mueller is the same as being exonerated by Mueller. The truth is that if Mueller is 80% sure they committed crimes, he would not bring an indictment because his case isnt strong enough. Al Capone was the most notorious gangster in history, but he was never indicted on any murder charges they just didnt have the evidence. They had to use tax evasion to put him away.

Likewise, when you bring charges against the immediate family of the President you have to have an absolute slam dunk case. The report may well reflect that, which is why we should see it. He is very likely to have included reasons why he chose to not indict people in his report that will not be included in the Barr brief, since the DOJ typically doesnt discuss individuals that it doesn't indict.

This still ignores the other investigations spun off from Mueller. If I were Jr., and maybe to a lesser extent Kushner, I would be much more worried about the investigations into the Trump organization by the NY AG and question regarding campaign finance by the House and DOJ.

Mueller was never going to indict Trump while he was the sitting President and the House was never going to impeach without a sure victory in the Senate. There is potential that sealed indictments already exist, however.

Mueller did good work. He indicted 37 individuals or organizations I believe, and got convictions in every case that has been heard. He proved connections between Russia, Wikileaks, and the Trump campaign. He also found issues that opened up something like 4 or 5 other investigations that are still ongoing. The only thing he didnt do that I thought he might was an indictment of Jr., but I covered that topic above.

Lastly, I'm proud if the work Mueller did. This is an example of how a professional and sophisticated investigation should be handled as opposed to the way the Ken Star investigation was conducted.
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You know nothing about what Mueller did. Showing up with 25 armed men at a 65 year old's house with a gun boat is not the way these things are handled. Hiliary should have been thrown down snout first and handcuffed for her crimes.
 
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mule_eer

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Airport said:
You know nothing about what Mueller did. Showing up with 25 armed men at a 65 year old's house with a gun boat is not the way these things are handled. Hiliary should have been thrown down snout first and handcuffed for her crimes.
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Actually, that's exactly how those things are handled. And you also know nothing about what Mueller did because he's kept his mouth shut about maybes. All we know of Mueller are the indictments he's sought or the cases he's referred to DOJ.
 
jpoppa

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MountaineerWV said:
Honest question, if a Muslim were to come in to your place of business....would you call the cops?
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Big generalization. If people respect that business and not demand you kneel to something you don’t believe in. That’s the problem.
 
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Airport

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mule_eer said:
Actually, that's exactly how those things are handled. And you also know nothing about what Mueller did because he's kept his mouth shut about maybes. All we know of Mueller are the indictments he's sought or the cases he's referred to DOJ.
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Then why wasn't Hilliary done the same way? We know for a fact she has lied, obstructed justice with deleted emails, destroyed supoenaed documents and destroyed equipment but she was given a pass. It is not how a majority of these things are or were handled. Was Flynn arrested in the middle of the night? I understand Manafort but not Stone. Stone is a peripheral player and about 70 years old.
 
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Airport

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MountaineerWV said:
Honest question, if a Muslim were to come in to your place of business....would you call the cops?
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Of course not, I expect them to pay. I have muslims who use my services. Sharia law is abhorrent. 180 million muslims believe in it. This wasn't about Muslims but a response to some stupid post, and my post was a stupid response to show how stupid the other one was.
 
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Boomboom521

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Airport said:
Then why wasn't Hilliary done the same way? We know for a fact she has lied, obstructed justice with deleted emails, destroyed supoenaed documents and destroyed equipment but she was given a pass. It is not how a majority of these things are or were handled. Was Flynn arrested in the middle of the night? I understand Manafort but not Stone. Stone is a peripheral player and about 70 years old.
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I thought an SC was appointed in the Clinton Foundation / email thing? No? If not, I hope it happens. Investigations are good.
 
jpoppa

jpoppa

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MountaineerWV said:
That's a big generalization.........
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Then on twitter
Rep. Ilhan Omar's Full CAIR Speech -- She Calls on Muslims to 'Raise Hell' and 'Make People Uncomfortable,'

Why do radicals on both sides put good Christians, Muslims and the general population to feel they have to choose sides. Very disheartening
 
Airport

Airport

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Boomboom521 said:
I thought an SC was appointed in the Clinton Foundation / email thing? No? If not, I hope it happens. Investigations are good.
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Somebody is supposed to be looking into it. I doubt if anything happens because too many foreign govt were paying quid pro quo to get access and there will be no way to speak to a foreign entity.
 
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