Asst. coach and Holman rant

[anon1787432961]

I'm no assistant coach, but do you THINK we might have been just a little over confident going into the Ole Miss game? Hinson had shot 50% 3 of the last 4 games. And got in early foul trouble. And what did we do with that info? Nothing. That's just sad.

It's also sad that you had Woodard on the bench basically the entire game.

I am not sure what the 17 our assistant coaches do during the game, but it looks like they just sit on their asses. We coach this team like its a summer league fun-for-all that is on auto pilot.

After Ole Miss switched from 1-3-1 to man to man, I don't think we made another assist all game.

I am disappointed in our coaches that we have basically zero in game intelligence and strategy, and we believe we can just sit back and watch Peters and Q try to win it for us while we try to out shoot teams 1 on 5. That's not coaching. At all. It's lazy ********.

And while I am at it, reiterating the point earlier on Holman not playing D. Let it sink in that KOTSAR dropped 25 on your flat footed *** and was responsible for the OT win. KOT 17n SAR. And then Hinson, a freshman, gets his CAREER HIGH against you at STARKVILLE. I don't know but if I am a Florida forward Keith Stone tomorrow night, I am looking 17n forward to having Holman not guard my ***. I just put $100 in Vegas that Stone scores over 20 on Holman. I mean James Hardin plays better D. Maybe we should just bring Holman in on a few offensive series off the bench and let Woodard do the real man's work. Greasy clumsy bucket of elbows KOT. 17n SAR owned your *** Aric. If that doesn't motivate you to play better D then holy 17n shitake mushrooms I don't know what will. KOT. SAR.

 

[philduckworth]

Holman needs to come off the bench against UF until he can play with more effectiveness on defense and with more effort.

Howland has only used Woodard as basically Q's backup which has been a mistake. I think Howland realizes that Woodard can play the 4 so it's time to actually do it in games. Perry can play some minutes at the 5 if needed.

I would make the above 2 changes first, but if that's not enough, I would seriously consider making Nick the PG and letting Lamar play the 2. I don't think Howland has done a good job of defining Nick's role.

Last thing, Q can't play with immunity. Turnovers, bad shots, bad defensive rotations, not passing to teammates when he has the numbers should equal some bench time. We have 8 guys that can play.

 

[muddawgs]

Holman needs to come off the bench against UF until he can play with more effectiveness on defense and with more effort.

Howland has only used Woodard as basically Q's backup which has been a mistake. I think Howland realizes that Woodard can play the 4 so it's time to actually do it in games. Perry can play some minutes at the 5 if needed.

I would make the above 2 changes first, but if that's not enough, I would seriously consider making Nick the PG and letting Lamar play the 2. I don't think Howland has done a good job of defining Nick's role.

Last thing, Q can't play with immunity. Turnovers, bad shots, bad defensive rotations, not passing to teammates when he has the numbers should equal some bench time. We have 8 guys that can play.

Everyone wants to blame Holman for Hinson's big day but no one talks about Holman having to cheat towards the lane because Ado can't cover his man off the screen. Hinson's big day had more to do with Ado having ****** footwork and watching his guy dunk a couple of wide open shots, so our adjustment was to let Holman help out, which left Hinson open all day. So to me poor coaching and Ado is the reason.

 

[Seinfeld]

There are a lot of things that could change that would help to yield better results, but the thing that absolutely HAS to change with a quickness is defense. We simply will not win games this year if we put ourselves in a position such that 50% 3 pt shooting is required to win.

With that in mind, I’d say that anything should be on the table to make that happen, and if it means putting Holman or Q on the bench for extended periods, so be it. We will never get to where this team can theoretically be if a complete lack of effort on D continues to be allowed

 

[patdog]

Everyone wants to blame Holman for Hinson's big day but no one talks about Holman having to cheat towards the lane because Ado can't cover his man off the screen.

This was a lot more obvious in person than it is watching on TV. Ado constantly had to get help from multiple players defensively all afternoon long. Also, he fumbles every pass that is thrown to him (most he just juggles then catches, but even then that gives the defensive player plenty of time to close down on him). For all Holman's weaknesses defensively, at least he brings something to the table on offense, at least when Peters and Q will pass the ball.

 

[Seinfeld]

Yep, let’s not forget one of our last possessions of the game when Ado had the ball directly under the basket, but rather than simply taking it up strong to at least draw a foul, he pump faked and allowed an OM defender to strip it away from him.

For the most part, Ado played reasonably well on Saturday, but his lack of progress this year has been extremely disappointing

 

[philduckworth]

Perry didn't seem to have a problem. He was much better defensively against Hinson and that's why he was in there the last 2 minutes of the game.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

I thought we should’ve put Zimmerman in...

 

[GhostOfJackie]

In my opinion, Ado is the weak link on this team. I counted 6 times in the first half where he either missed a dunk/layup, wasn't strong enough under to basket to get up and dunk, or just flat out mishandled a pass. Six times this happened in one half and he was killing us. It's as if he is completely surprised every time a guard decides to drive and dish to him.

Ado is not strong enough for his size, his hands are similar to bricks, and he's not a great shooter. He is the least clutch big that we have had at MSU since I can remember.

 

[tired]

Ado & Holman would get more bench time and I would roll with Perry & Woodard. It amazes me how Howland can't see certain things that need adjusting. He's just not a very good coach anymore.

 

[mstateglfr]

This **** is why the advanced analytics in the NBA need to trickle down to CBB.

Holman's main man goes for a career night, but how many of those were due to Holman's D? If Holman slides over from the weakside, the ball handler drops it off to Holman's man, and that guy scores- is that really on Holman?

Basketball is a game of matchups and those come by way of switching. Mismatches allow the offense to more likely score and to blame a single player for their main man scoring a lot is extremely simplistic.

 

[Shmuley]

He does have the americanized post-dunk pose down, though.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

George Brooks may recruit, but it’s hard to tell if he does anything else....

 

[Len2003]

Does anyone else get a little creeped out at those radio commercials for Polk's sausage that Howland does? Am I the only one who feels uncomfortable with the way he sounds talking about Polk's big, juicy sausages?

But yeah, I'd bench Ado for sure. He just looks completely lost if he actually manages to catch the ball.

 

[Hanmudog]

The bench is one hell of a motivator, particularly for a senior. I am sure Holman got caught trying to help on defense a few times but most of the time his defense consisted of a quick wave more like a guy trying to fan a fart. Then there was the rebound in crunch time that Holman allowed to hit the floor about 5 feet from him. Just a piss poor effort.

Q...........well what else is there to say other than he plays as stupid as anyone we have had since Gary Ervin.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Woodard isn't as big as Mario Austin or Lawrence Roberts, but he sure plays like he is that size when he is on the court. He is good cross over type guard that can play the 4 also. He plays tougher and stronger than Q and Holman. Ado can be strong but his hands are terrible and awareness gets him in trouble. Holman just gets lost on the defensive end. I'm all for playing Perry and Woodard as much as possible moving forward.

 

[msudawg200]

I’d love to see just some simple +/- numbers for CBB.

 

[Misfit]

no one talks about Holman having to cheat towards the lane because Ado can't cover his man off the screen.

Aric has been one of my favorites since he arrived on campus, but what you say is not what I saw during the game. Aric was not cheating back after he came around the pick. He moved towards the UM shooter. He was just moving in slow motion. Howland saw it the same way, because he called him out by name for his lack of intensity on defense in the post-game presser (which is something he rarely does). Giving Aric the benefit of the doubt during the game, I thought the problem might be that he expected his man to roll toward the basket after the pick instead of away from it, but when OM kept running the same play, it became clear that Aric just didn't see any urgency in getting back on his man before the shot went up. He's had two bad games in a row.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I thought we should’ve put Zimmerman in...

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[HumpDawgy]

George Brooks may recruit, but it’s hard to tell if he does anything else....

What? Dude couldn't even get his son on this team.

 

[FlotownDawg]

I’m glad somebody else mentioned this. Late in the game, OM guy drives the lane and goes up against Holman. Holman stays vertical and the OM guy loses the ball. Instead of getting the ball which is bouncing on the floor right next to him, Holman continued to stand there with his hands over his head as if to show the referee he didn’t commit a foul. But there wasn’t a foul called anyway. The ball bounced twice on the floor before an OM player grabbed it and kicked it out to Hinson I think for a wide open 3, which he made. I couldn’t believe the lack of effort and stupidity by Holman there. It’s like he forgot the ball was still live or thought it would go out of bounds.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Someone feel free to correct me, but the primary function of Howland's staff is recruiting. Zeigler & McCray have long-term AAU connections and Brooks is the Mississippi connection. I think we get zero bench coaching from any of those guys.

 

[anon1787432961]

We can critique each player in a loss. We haven't done that with many our ugly wins.

Looking at our back to back losses there's plenty of room for improvement. The loss Saturday really belongs to our entire team. We haven't put together a complete game yet. *Insert rant on each player other than Holman and Ado here*
Peters had 4 turnovers and Q had 5 Saturday. Q had 5 against SC as well.

Looking at the positives:

- Holman is shooting better outside which helps open up the inside for others
- Ado got 6 offensive boards Saturday
- Perry has also done well down low
- Nick has shot over 50% in our 2 recent losses
- Woodard looked good again Saturday

My main frustration has been team effort and the least effort seems to be from Holman.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Big Difference watching Vic’s assistants during the game and watching Howlands.**

 

[Seinfeld]

I had forgotten about that play until you said something, but I absolutely remember that exact moment. There are multiple things that are ridiculous about Holman’s actions during that sequence, but just like when an O lineman puts his hands in the air after a blatant hold, there is no better way to draw attention to a foul than to do exactly what Holman did.

Then, like you said, he just stood there as the ball bounced around about 3 feet away from him

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Never understood our rash of soft 7footers. Marcus softee Campbell comes to mind. Just never got that. If im 7ft tall im grabbing the ball and at least attempting to break the damn goal every time i get the ball within 4 ft of the goal. Folks gonna have to foul me.

 

[jumpdawg]

I would put a stop to all of that BS right now. That is the epitome of our issue...."Look at me" instead of "Look at us"

 

[maroonmania]

In my opinion, Ado is the weak link on this team. I counted 6 times in the first half where he either missed a dunk/layup, wasn't strong enough under to basket to get up and dunk, or just flat out mishandled a pass. Six times this happened in one half and he was killing us. It's as if he is completely surprised every time a guard decides to drive and dish to him.

Ado is not strong enough for his size, his hands are similar to bricks, and he's not a great shooter. He is the least clutch big that we have had at MSU since I can remember.

I agree, its time for Perry to start and get the bulk of the minutes. Ado should be the guy that subs in to absorb some minutes and give a breather. His reactions are just too slow.

 

[maroonmania]

I would put a stop to all of that BS right now. That is the epitome of our issue...."Look at me" instead of "Look at us"

And that explains the issue which is our team < sum of the parts. We need a LOT more team oriented players at the moment. Guys that are willing to make the extra pass and dive on the floor after a loose ball.