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LadyCaytIL

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This could easily be a case of getting mixed up with another St. LOUIAN. You are the sane one...the other one that has the red booger smiley face for his avatar is not.

So you're a doctor now and can confirm sanity and insanity? Yeah you're a real work of art yourself
 

Wildcats1st

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I tell you what... I will end our argument. I speculate on sports, not on people I guess.

BTW, please message Old Red because he has it all wrong. Contest is inaccurately named.

*** Official CatsIllustrated Kentucky v Tennessee/Alabama SEC SpEcUlAtIoN Contest ***

Now go on speculatin' about a 20 year old who made a bad decision. See what other garbage you can think of to share with the world.

Wasn’t it you the other day who said what you heard on the podcast about hagans was disturbing and you were questioning your defense of him? What changed? Not trying to be an *** I’m just interested to know why all these peoples opinions changed on hagans when everything that’s been speculated has been verified to a certain degree?
 
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LadyCaytIL

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This thread has given me a headache
We might be the biggest and best fanbase but we’re also the worst
I’ve never seen such a group of so called fellow fans turn on each other with such vitriol.

I'm sorry BKO .... forgive me. I didnt mean for it to turn into a large feud. I shouldnt let people get to me so much...
 

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I'm sorry BKO .... forgive me. I didnt mean for it to turn into a large feud.
Assuming this is a serious post ...
You’re cool
No reason to apologize ...
This isn’t you, it’s something that happens in every single thread

if you were being facetious...bite me :sunglasses:
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Assuming this is a serious post ...
You’re cool
No reason to apologize ...
This isn’t you, it’s something that happens in every single thread

if you were being facetious...bite me :sunglasses:

LOL.. I was being serious... I was most definitely in on the arguments so I am at wrong also. I sometimes forget that arguing and loading threads with the feuds isnt fair for everyone else having to read it.
 

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This thread has given me a headache
We might be the biggest and best fanbase but we’re also the worst
I’ve never seen such a group of so called fellow fans turn on each other with such vitriol.

I think there is a lot at play here. UK fans turn on one another when things don’t go well because one group becomes upset with breakdowns by players or coaches and the other who are just as frustrated believe there is no room to criticize any aspect of the program and attack fellow fans. Everyone is upset about the same thing. Hagans actions the detriment to the team and now the uncertainty. You just have two groups one who direct their ire at Ashton and the other group who are pissed about Ashton but to them it’s more reasonable to call out fans. No fan on this forum caused the situation we are in and when a player goes south I think it’s fair to criticize. I mean UK basketball is big business and there is a 100 yo tradition that is bigger than any one player. The days of personal accountability are over. It’s everyone else’s fault even those who have nothing to do with a persons actions.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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I think there is a lot at play here. UK fans turn on one another when things don’t go well because one group becomes upset with breakdowns by players or coaches and the other who are just as frustrated believe there is no room to criticize any aspect of the program and attack fellow fans. Everyone is upset about the same thing. Hagans actions the detriment to the team and now the uncertainty. You just have two groups one who direct their ire at Ashton and the other group who are pissed about Ashton but to them it’s more reasonable to call out fans. No fan on this forum caused the situation we are in and when a player goes south I think it’s fair to criticize. I mean UK basketball is big business and there is a 100 yo tradition that is bigger than any one player. The days of personal accountability are over. It’s everyone else’s fault even those who have nothing to do with a persons actions.

thats the dont rock the boat group..... pointing it at the players or coaches might rock the boat but pointing the anger towards other fans wont affect the season...
 

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I think there is a lot at play here. UK fans turn on one another when things don’t go well because one group becomes upset with breakdowns by players or coaches and the other who are just as frustrated believe there is no room to criticize any aspect of the program and attack fellow fans. Everyone is upset about the same thing. Hagans actions the detriment to the team and now the uncertainty. You just have two groups one who direct their ire at Ashton and the other group who are pissed about Ashton but to them it’s more reasonable to call out fans. No fan on this forum caused the situation we are in and when a player goes south I think it’s fair to criticize. I mean UK basketball is big business and there is a 100 yo tradition that is bigger than any one player. The days of personal accountability are over. It’s everyone else’s fault even those who have nothing to do with a persons actions.
I like what you say here
And I agree with criticism as a rational discussion ...that’s what this forum is fire
People take it too far and make it too personal
 

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LOL.. I was being serious... I was most definitely in on the arguments so I am at wrong also. I sometimes forget that arguing and loading threads with the feuds isnt fair for everyone else having to read it.
Don’t mind the discussion or even the speculation. It’s when it turns personal and ugly...
 
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This thread has given me a headache
We might be the biggest and best fanbase but we’re also the worst
I’ve never seen such a group of so called fellow fans turn on each other with such vitriol.

Well, none of this would occur in real life without too much alcohol.
The internet is 200 proof though...
 
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Bill Withers

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Well, Ashton isn't dazzling anyone with his intelligence, these days. We'll probably get the death penalty again over this, while Kansas, Duke, Arizona etc skate. Thanks Ashton.
 

LadyCaytIL

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We won’t get anything over it. At all. All this hand wringing isn’t necessary.

I agree nothing will come from it....... except for a bad PR hit.... something we really didnt need. people outside of UK arent going to listen to reason even if for 100% certainty there was nothing wrong here. Just stinks....
 
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I agree nothing will come from it....... except for a bad PR hit.... something we really didnt need. people outside of UK arent going to listen to reason if for 100% certainty there was nothing wrong here. Just stinks....
Look on the bright side. UL is about to get roasted by the NCAA and their fans will come unglued when nothing comes of this thing with Ashton.
 

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Chill out ! When I was 20, I was at a party, tripped over a rug. When I was getting up, I realized it wasn't a rug I tripped over, but 5000 bucks
I went straight to Snapchat and posted by good fortune
Relax
 

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This thread has given me a headache
We might be the biggest and best fanbase but we’re also the worst
I’ve never seen such a group of so called fellow fans turn on each other with such vitriol.
Oh go to hell will ya?


;)
 

LadyCaytIL

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I think it is COMPLETELY irresponsible to bring up point shaving and agents with zero shred of proof. Period. So yeah, I think you are acting nuts.

You've been at this for the better part of a week.

but you can call me insane with no proof . ? You arent practicing what you preach

and I know what you want to post... let me stop you ..... my posting asking the questions is not PROOF of insanity.... you might want to use it as evidence....... but thats no different than using Hagans turnovers that looked bad and his snap chat as evidence that something like point shaving or agents could be happening. Guess I should be a UK player... then I could do whatever I want and you wouldnt attack me.

In the end........... you just dont want to rock the boat. so defending UK's season at all costs is what you put as a priority. I'm not like that and thats ok. whether you think its ok or not... we dont have to think alike ..
 
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I posted in another thread after the UT game fiasco about an observation I had regarding Hagans during the Vandy game . In summary I told the story about when I was in the players 'friends and family' section for the Vandy game which is floor level in the endzone. There were two couples sitting next to me and one guy kept saying "Hag" over and over when play was on our side of the floor. Hagans was very aware of him and winked at him at least three or four times after play stopped.

No big deal really but it seemed odd and lacking judgement given the circumstances. This may go on at floor level all the time but I wouldn't know. None of the other players were interacting with those in that section while the game was going on. Just Hagans.

Here's what I didn't mention in the other thread about those two couples. They reaked of pot. Again no big deal but that one guy and Hagans are definitely close. I'm not suggesting Hagans is a pot dealer or that he even smokes it but things seem to be adding up that suggest a pattern of careless and bizarre behavior. This video makes me wonder about him even more.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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UK doing an investigation obviously asked questions in case it was something BAD. are they horrible for investigating?
 
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Guessing it might be an agent does no harm either. NCAA doesnt do anything based on what we guess. Some of you are so damn paranoid.

Now if someone said they know its what happened............ that would be harmful

Yeah, just like your insinuating Hagans was "point shaving" a couple of days ago. [eyeroll]
 

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because he got suspended ........ because he's been acting off.

also how do you know people wouldnt ask the same questions if it was a white player?

Did you read the post I replied to? Do you think someone would ask the dad of a white player if he got beat up by a cop and sued for the money and that is why his son has a wad of cash? Gimme a freaking break!
 

LadyCaytIL

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Yeah, just like your insinuating Hagans was "point shaving" a couple of days ago. [eyeroll]

I asked ............ and also said that I didnt think he was.... I think he was just pressing for the NBA.... but his turnovers were so awful I asked the question...

But of course, you didnt mention that other part
 

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Where does it say resolved?

It was above. It's been addressed before. I do think the suspension was because of the repost and to send a message to recruits in this day and age this sort of thing won't be tolerated.

If he's not back for the start of the tournament then he's not coming back. Could be that UK sees a compliance issue and is getting ahead of it. Maybe it pissed Cal off he reposted it after the issues Hagans has had. Either way, it's not an issue until it is. And UK says the original video has been addressed, so it's been addressed. I don't see what good comes from pounding the drum. If the problem grows it'll be pounded then.
 

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Personally I’m convinced he may be a Russian spy.

I saw him one game last year look at someone in the crowd and the person was wearing a Ivan Drago t shirt. Everyone knows Drago was a Russian and he killed Apollo Creed which really makes him Anti-America.

See, it all makes sense. He’s a gang banging, drug dealing, booster loving, agent having, anti-American Russian spy. I mean there really is no other way to look at it.

Anyone else who says otherwise is just scared to rock the boat. It’s really that simple people. Wake up.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Did you read the post I replied to? Do you think someone would ask the dad of a white player if he got beat up by a cop and sued for the money and that is why his son has a wad of cash? Gimme a freaking break!

sorry... I missed that part... my bad.

Maybe this can shut this noise down?

Maybe it is because I am an Alumnus but this whole point shaving topic is pissing me off.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...tball-piling-up-wins-for-bettors-1967828/amp/

when I asked the question even I said I thought he was just pressing for the NBA...... and others agreed ... worked our way through he wasnt point shaving...... Why are you bringing it up so much?
 
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So if a Kansas player did this EVERY SINGLE POSTER here wouldn’t be on here shitting on Kansas. Alrighty then.


That is 1,000% CORRECT!!! If this happened to ANY other Blue Blood player, our fans would NEVER let them hear the end of it. They would constantly bring this back up for years and years. So, anybody on here trying to justify this stupidity is just hypocritical. This is NOT a good look for us or Cal. I dont care who's money it is, it's just dumb and irresponsible from Hagans and gives every other fan base in the country ammunition against us.