As expected

MS-halfstep

Sophomore
Jun 27, 2015
378
176
43
Or how about when a slightly under the radar kid like say… Dak Prescott actually comes to MSU and blows up? Loyalty only gets you so far when Bama, Florida, etc need a QB, and now we’ve handed them the keys to snag one with NIL and the portal

Nah, Cali Gold would've keep Dak in Starkville
 

Smoked Toag

Redshirt
Jul 15, 2021
3,262
1
0
Or how about when a slightly under the radar kid like say… Dak Prescott actually comes to MSU and blows up? Loyalty only gets you so far when Bama, Florida, etc need a QB, and now we’ve handed them the keys to snag one with NIL and the portal
Bad example. Dak didn't "blow up" until his 4th year, and he had his own decision to make at that point. He decided to come back to school, and be coached under Mullen one more year. He wasn't going anywhere else, a guy with that level of maturity isn't jumping at any opportunity just because. He could have gone elsewhere anyway, as a grad transfer.

It's still about football to most of these guys. That matters more than these piddly NIL deals.
 

RocketDawg

All-Conference
Oct 21, 2011
19,861
2,636
113
Probably won't even need one in the not too distant future. But for now, it's at least good enough to remain on the team.
 

RocketDawg

All-Conference
Oct 21, 2011
19,861
2,636
113
Won't be long before their uniforms have as many logos as a NASCAR driver's suit.
 

RocketDawg

All-Conference
Oct 21, 2011
19,861
2,636
113
So is Nick - uh, Coach Saban - actually bragging about how much his players are being paid? Pathetic if that's a true quote.

He needs to remember that he didn't do too well coaching pros.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

All-Conference
Jun 5, 2008
21,029
4,832
113
It's Gonna be Bad,

Don't You Know!

3 to 5 years College sports will not be recognizable.

Just wonder how all of the stadiums that we have built, will get refurbished.

Think about it.
 

thatsbaseball

All-American
May 29, 2007
18,345
7,351
113
I'm DEFINITELY not an authority on what goes on in college students' minds but it will be interesting to see how this effects the relationships of these play-for-pay "student athletes" with the rest of the student body both on and off campus and in the stands. I was lucky enough to be in school back in the "stone age" but this is a totally (BIG TIME) new set of dynamics.
 
Nov 12, 2007
25,974
10,130
113
And the transfer portal will be a free agent mechanism for upper echelon schools like we’ve never seen before.

At the end of the day, the top teams today will still be the top teams tomorrow, but the difference now is that the blue bloods will never have a “down period” again. Between the portal, the NIL, and the NCAA’s inability to enforce basically anything, they now have every possible tool at their disposal to stay on top.

We all knew it was coming. But with no rules or limits and no real watchdog organization in charge here at the start of this I think we can anticipate the "Wild, Wild West" bidding wars along with the over and under the table incentives that often make and brake such big dollar deals.

Should become interesting times if the IRS starts nosing around in the middle of this when it really gets going.
 

Xenomorph

Heisman
Feb 15, 2007
16,061
10,478
113
It's NOT pathetic. It's the name of the game. We (MSU) are either going to learn to play this new game or we might as well fold the program.
 

mcdawg22

Heisman
Sep 18, 2004
13,608
11,995
113
Yup. It’s just like basketball powerhouse Tennessee Tech banking players like Master P’s son.
 

G-Dawg

Sophomore
Sep 6, 2012
1,187
101
48
And the transfer portal will be a free agent mechanism for upper echelon schools like we’ve never seen before.

At the end of the day, the top teams today will still be the top teams tomorrow, but the difference now is that the blue bloods will never have a “down period” again. Between the portal, the NIL, and the NCAA’s inability to enforce basically anything, they now have every possible tool at their disposal to stay on top.

At least the pros have a draft to ATTEMPT to balance the scales and a salary cap. This **** is about to be Wild Wild West and poor ole MSU is going to get MOWED down in Football and basketball.

Edit: Sorry, IBleed. Didn't see your Wild Wild West comment before making mine.
 

Mobile Bay

All-Conference
Jul 26, 2020
4,242
2,184
113
The problem is we don't even have the chips to sit at the table.

Alabama and Auburn have multiple billionaire grads. I don't even want to think of the Texas schools. The biggest donor we ever had was Leo Seal, and he isn't here anymore.
 

G-Dawg

Sophomore
Sep 6, 2012
1,187
101
48
Transfer portal and now paying players……the end of a great era of sports

I wonder if a renegade coach (AKA Mike Leach) might carve out a niche by having players that agree to pool all their resources and become a MEGA team, no egos. You'd have to have a bigger market than Oktibbeha County, but you'd only sign players that agree to share their tips.
 

ShrubDog

Redshirt
Apr 13, 2008
5,307
3
38
It seems like this NIL deal is a beast. Guys making money like this has created another business sector. We all knew it would come sooner or later but it came overnight.

The locker rooms may have a different feel to them now. Money getting to guys heads and others feeling left out. Just crazy for sure.
 

G-Dawg

Sophomore
Sep 6, 2012
1,187
101
48
This is all at the feet of Mark Emmert and the NCAA Board of Governors. They had plenty of time to come up with a solution that would have kept SOME integrity and a MODICUM of an attempt to level the playing field, but they blew it and now this monster has been created. As someone else said, kiss what you know of college athletics goodbye.

How long before this trickles down to the HS level? I'm a coach, have been for over 20 years, and played sports all of my life. I love the values and lessons I learned from sports. But it's about to all be unwatchable for me, personally.
 
Nov 12, 2007
25,974
10,130
113
At least the pros have a draft to ATTEMPT to balance the scales and a salary cap. This **** is about to be Wild Wild West and poor ole MSU is going to get MOWED down in Football and basketball.

Edit: Sorry, IBleed. Didn't see your Wild Wild West comment before making mine.

Don't apologize. We all can see what's coming for the blue bloods and then the rest of us.
 

PBRME

All-American
Feb 12, 2004
11,323
5,334
113
I'm DEFINITELY not an authority on what goes on in college students' minds but it will be interesting to see how this effects the relationships of these play-for-pay "student athletes" with the rest of the student body both on and off campus and in the stands. I was lucky enough to be in school back in the "stone age" but this is a totally (BIG TIME) new set of dynamics.

My big question is how will they handle sudden large amounts of money not funneled through a relative? At 18, with new found freedom, and more money than I thought possible, I would’ve gotten in a lot of trouble. I didn’t handle my minimal paycheck very well.
 
Nov 16, 2012
2,481
2
0
My big question is how will they handle sudden large amounts of money not funneled through a relative? At 18, with new found freedom, and more money than I thought possible, I would’ve gotten in a lot of trouble. I didn’t handle my minimal paycheck very well.

They’ll handle it like all other rappers::: cars, clothes, and hoes
 

Hump4Hoops

Redshirt
May 1, 2010
6,611
13
38
Knowing what we know about Leach's, uh, political leanings

I expect he would be the very last coach to offer up such an idea.
 

Dawg1979

Redshirt
Jun 23, 2015
1,546
0
0
Bad example. Dak didn't "blow up" until his 4th year, and he had his own decision to make at that point. He decided to come back to school, and be coached under Mullen one more year. He wasn't going anywhere else, a guy with that level of maturity isn't jumping at any opportunity just because. He could have gone elsewhere anyway, as a grad transfer.

It's still about football to most of these guys. That matters more than these piddly NIL deals.


i'm still waiting on your **** to pop up. if you believe that, you cray
 

codeDawg

Redshirt
Nov 13, 2007
2,102
0
36
This was the most likely conclusion to a system that tried to fight tooth and nail an obvious outcome. The amount of money going into the sport but not going into the hands of the people playing the sport was always going to end up being deemed unfair by the courts.

It was always smarter to put together a system where all this under the table money was being routed in a way that did not affect competition. If we had allowed that money to be routed to salaries and other compensation that was monitored and regulated and put in pro competitive rules, we could have skirted this.

Instead we tried to dam up the MS River instead of building levees to control the flow. The money was always going to, and already making it to the players, but now it’s a **** show. Enjoy the result of pissing in the wind.
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
9,528
2,046
113
College athletics won’t end but they are certainly going to change a lot.

GPA is a good point. If some guy who’s never had anything starts making $100k a year, what are the chances he makes classes by his junior year?

Will hurt him in college and in the draft.
 

Maroonthirteen

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
1,975
0
0
I wonder if a renegade coach (AKA Mike Leach) might carve out a niche by having players that agree to pool all their resources and become a MEGA team, no egos. You'd have to have a bigger market than Oktibbeha County, but you'd only sign players that agree to share their tips.

Mike Leach nor the universities have control over the nil or the players deals. So it would be up to the individual player to decide to share their money.
 

DawgInThe256

All-Conference
Feb 18, 2011
1,564
1,388
83
Yep, I was thinking we got in just under the wire before the whole system is irrevocably changed
 

Smoked Toag

Redshirt
Jul 15, 2021
3,262
1
0
It seems like this NIL deal is a beast. Guys making money like this has created another business sector. We all knew it would come sooner or later but it came overnight.

The locker rooms may have a different feel to them now. Money getting to guys heads and others feeling left out. Just crazy for sure.
This will work itself out by next year, when some guys have lost starting jobs and deals have fallen through.
 

FISHDAWG

Redshirt
Dec 27, 2009
2,077
0
36
this is probably gonna keep some Juniors from entering the draft and we will have to deal with them as Seniors .... I know Bama just reloads but why go to the draft early when you're making big time money in college
 

anon1787432961

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
15,854
14,328
113
this was a clear and obvious measured and completely planned statement by Saban. He's wanting 5 star QBs to hear they can maximize their brand value more at Bama than anywhere else and he's 100% on board with it along with Bama's ridiculous fan base.

Saban has a history of pushing the boundary of what advantages he can create. This is no different. Exploit it early and be in front of everyone. Part of his playbook.
 

Smoked Toag

Redshirt
Jul 15, 2021
3,262
1
0
At what point does the NFL just say "17 you, NCAA. We'll start drafting them anytime after they turn 18."?
That would solve a lot of it. Should have been done years ago, at least one year earlier anyway. That would take out Johnny Football, Marcus Lattimore, Jadaveon Clowney, Leonard Fournette, Mike Williams, Famous Jameis, etc.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

All-Conference
Feb 5, 2010
5,770
3,449
113
I can see high net worth NIL players being a locker room distraction

How are players who aren't getting any or very little (<$1000) endorsement deals going to respond to their QB teammate who is worth a million dollars when he throws an INT to seal the loss late in the fourth quarter?

Disclaimer: I agree with the NIL decision in principle but when principle and human nature share the same bed they always make an ugly baby.
 
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