Arkansas

[AMTGSLB]

The SEC seeding is based off of conference schedule which Kentucky had a much harder schedule (and just barely missed out on a 4 seed) the conference seeding then allowed Arkansas to have a very easy schedule to the championship, winning that also helped their NCAA seed, which gave them again very easy opponents. It's A->B->C logic.

Lol, so what was UKs conference schedule rabk and what was Arkys? Surely you have a source for this, right?

Barely missed on a 4 seed?!?!?!? Yea...if we skipped the 5 - 8 seeds first.

That's delusional as ****!

Arky was the 3 seed in the SEC tournament, btw.

Winning regular season games at actually beating good teams helped them secure that NCAA seed as well. Pretty sure they were a projected 4/5 seed prior to the SEC tournament.

Instead of lying to yourself, why not just be honest and acknowledge Cal and Arky are simply better than we are currently.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I mean yeah some of it is luck but I wouldn’t say Vandy was a layup

plus some of those easy games were earned due to their seeding.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

Lol, so what was UKs conference schedule rabk and what was Arkys? Surely you have a source for this, right?

Barely missed on a 4 seed?!?!?!? Yea...if we skipped the 5 - 8 seeds first.

That's delusional as ****!

Arky was the 3 seed in the SEC tournament, btw.

Winning regular season games at actually beating good teams helped them secure that NCAA seed as well. Pretty sure they were a projected 4/5 seed prior to the SEC tournament.

Instead of lying to yourself, why not just be honest and acknowledge Cal and Arky are simply better than we are currently.

“We”

 

[Dward13]

Oh, my. A lot of aggression and inaccurate statements in that, bud.

I joined 2 days ago, this thread was started today. And not by me. So that logic doesn't work.

If overall strength of schedules are 4 spots apart, how apart are you alleging the conference schedules are? What were they ranked for each team?

Who is ya'll?

Who is talking out of their ***?

What clock?

You’re completely ignoring how scheduling works in a conference with 16 teams and only an 18 game conference schedule. Playing dumb? Or actually dumb? Surely not the latter.

But i’ll give you a short explanation. It’s possible and happens often that the schedules end up extremely unbalanced. Arkansas benefitted from that greatly. Kentucky did not.

Pearl at Auburn seemed to be on the lucky end of that his fair share as well.

I don’t need to tell you each difference between each team schedule. You know who arkansas did and didn’t play i’m sure.

Kentucky got what they deserved as far as seed goes. We choked away games against a bad auburn team, a mediocre missouri team, and just generally played poorly more than we played well.

But that doesn’t mean we gotta pretend Arkansas is better than they really are because of a schedule that broke their way.





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[AMTGSLB]

You’re completely ignoring how scheduling works in a conference with 16 teams and only an 18 game conference schedule. Playing dumb? Or actually dumb? Surely not the latter.

But i’ll give you a short explanation. It’s possible and happens often that the schedules end up extremely unbalanced. Arkansas benefitted from that greatly. Kentucky did not.

Pearl at Auburn seemed to be on the lucky end of that his fair share as well.

I don’t need to tell you each difference between each team schedule. You know who arkansas did and didn’t play i’m sure.

Kentucky got what they deserved as far as seed goes. We choked away games against a bad auburn team, a mediocre missouri team, and just generally played poorly more than we played well.

But that doesn’t mean we gotta pretend Arkansas is better than they really are because of a schedule that broke their way.





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Ok, so do you have some metrics you use to support this?

 

[Dward13]

Lol, so what was UKs conference schedule rabk and what was Arkys? Surely you have a source for this, right?

Barely missed on a 4 seed?!?!?!? Yea...if we skipped the 5 - 8 seeds first.

That's delusional as ****!

Arky was the 3 seed in the SEC tournament, btw.

Winning regular season games at actually beating good teams helped them secure that NCAA seed as well. Pretty sure they were a projected 4/5 seed prior to the SEC tournament.

Instead of lying to yourself, why not just be honest and acknowledge Cal and Arky are simply better than we are currently.

This arkansas team is better than this Kentucky team but Kentucky fans wouldn’t have been happy with a 4 seed and a sweet sixteen after having made the second weekend only once in the last 5 tournaments. We wouldn’t be celebrating. We’d be wondering what has to happen for the program to get back to the top.

 

[AMTGSLB]

“We”

 

[AMTGSLB]

This arkansas team is better than this Kentucky team but Kentucky fans wouldn’t have been happy with a 4 seed and a sweet sixteen after having made the second weekend only once in the last 5 tournaments. We wouldn’t be celebrating. We’d be wondering what has to happen for the program to get back to the top.

Are you high?

Fans all over this board and in general have been pounding their chests for UK to literally get a 4 seed and make a sw16.

Most consider last year a massive accomplishment, and we only did one of them.

 

[Dward13]

Ok, so do you have some metrics you use to support this?

Look at the schedules. Arkansas played 5 games agaisnt ranked teams on conference play. 2 on the road. One against Florida we here they were humiliated. And one at Georgia who was 21st at the time but fell out of the rankings permanently 2 weeks later.


Kentucky played 8 games against ranked teams in conference play. 5 of which were on the road including road games against each of the top 4 in the conference.

The conference schedules werent even remotely close in terms of difficulty.

I hope that helps.

 

[HenryMuto]

I hope Johnston puts down 10 3's Saturday

 

[Dward13]

Are you high?

Fans all over this board and in general have been pounding their chests for UK to literally get a 4 seed and make a sw16.

Most consider last year a massive accomplishment, and we only did one of them.

To be honest, I do have a lot of people on ignore.

 

[AMTGSLB]

Look at the schedules. Arkansas played 5 games agaisnt ranked teams on conference play. 2 on the road. One against Florida we here they were humiliated. And one at Georgia who was 21st at the time but fell out of the rankings permanently 2 weeks later.


Kentucky played 8 games against ranked teams in conference play. 5 of which were on the road including road games against each of the top 4 in the conference.

The conference schedules werent even remotely close in terms of difficulty.

I hope that helps.

Top 25 just part of it. Again, what were their alleged conference tournament strength of schedules?

This shouldn't be that hard of the data ice actually something you used to base this opinion of yours.

 

[Kingslayer07]

Ive got Arkansas in the sweet 16. They do have final 4 potential though.

 

[FatCatMan]

Are you high?

Fans all over this board and in general have been pounding their chests for UK to literally get a 4 seed and make a sw16.

Most consider last year a massive accomplishment, and we only did one of them.

Delusional Pope fanatics, at least. Last year’s Sweet 16 finish was fine if it lead to something better (this year), but it didn’t. So frankly, last year looks like an anomaly until proven otherwise.

 

[AMTGSLB]

To be honest, I do have a lot of people on ignore.

You must have all the ones saying these things, because there are several.

 

[FatCatMan]

Let’s be honest, if Mark Pope was a half decent coach, fans wouldn’t still be obsessing over Cal. I remember fans obsessing pretty hard over Pitino at UL when we had Tubby and BCG but many of us shut up once we had Calipari. Right now until we get past this mediocrity, Cal is going to be a big part of our mass manic episode.

 

[BleedBlue747]

Why in the hell are you guys? So jealous of Arkansas? They did a favor by taking Cal, then we beat them this year at their place with a very average team. I could not care less about them or Cal. It appears that you guys now despise them as much as we despise Tennessee. They haven’t won anything since 1994. I think it’s Tennessee and Florida that are big rivals now and you might add Alabama to that. I say quit talking about him and leave him alone. They i’m not gonna post a threat to us in the long run trust me.

Don't be throwing facts here..

 

[Kprazorbacker1]

is getting one of the biggest layups in March I have ever seen. Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Vandy, Hawaii and now they are gonna get High Point.

You do realize that we beat the team that beat Tennessee and Florida, and Florida beat you, right?

 

[VC99]

Lol, so what was UKs conference schedule rabk and what was Arkys? Surely you have a source for this, right?

Barely missed on a 4 seed?!?!?!? Yea...if we skipped the 5 - 8 seeds first.

That's delusional as ****!

Arky was the 3 seed in the SEC tournament, btw.

Winning regular season games at actually beating good teams helped them secure that NCAA seed as well. Pretty sure they were a projected 4/5 seed prior to the SEC tournament.

Instead of lying to yourself, why not just be honest and acknowledge Cal and Arky are simply better than we are currently.

First off it was well documented that UK had one of the hardest SEC schedules, on top of that, at one point in the schedule UK actually had the toughest remaining schedule left in all of college basketball. And yes Kentucky was 1 win away from a 4 seed.

Arkansas had a very mediocre year, lost to the Kentucky team you are talking about, got destroyed by Florida etc. And your point is completely irrelevant considering my point was that Arkansas has gotten an extremely easy path, easier than any 1 seed and is in no way a reference to who is better, Kentucky or Arkansas. But again Kentucky beat Arkansas so I could make that argument.

 

[AMTGSLB]

First off it was well documented that UK had one of the hardest SEC schedules, on top of that, at one point in the schedule UK actually had the toughest remaining schedule left in all of college basketball. And yes Kentucky was 1 win away from a 4 seed, but of course you didn't know that. Arkansas had a very mediocre year, lost to the Kentucky team you are talking about, got destroyed by Florida etc. And your point is completely irrelevant and frankly, idiotic considering my point was that Arkansas has gotten an extremely easy path, easier than any 1 seed and is in no way a reference to who is better, Kentucky or Arkansas. Terrible reply from you all around and it should have exactly 0 likes. I have also noticed a trend that people who use emojis are almost always the most unhinged and idiot and you are keeping that trend going. I am objectively correct on this subject and you are objectively wrong.

Where is this documented? Do you have a source?

Toughest remaining schedule in the country? When?

1 win away? So what happens if those other teams ahead of us all win 1 more game? Or the teams tied with us win 1 more? What about if the teams right behind us get 1 more? The what ifs don't matter, boo. We finished 9th. We didn't finish about of those teams. They finished ahead of us because they had better records or beat us.

They earned the seed and the higher ranked teams got beat. Arky was always supposed to have a easier first rd, then hard 2nd and 3rd. They played and beat 4th seed Vandy who blitzed Florida. That's not exactly easy. We barely beat a crappy LSU in a squeaker for the 2nd time. LSU is the lowest ranked SEC team, BTW. Then barely beat mizzou, before getting the **** beat out of us by UF for the 3rd time.

You certainly seem stable.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Why in the hell are you guys? So jealous of Arkansas? They did a favor by taking Cal, then we beat them this year at their place with a very average team. I could not care less about them or Cal. It appears that you guys now despise them as much as we despise Tennessee. They haven’t won anything since 1994. I think it’s Tennessee and Florida that are big rivals now and you might add Alabama to that. I say quit talking about him and leave him alone. They i’m not gonna post a threat to us in the long run trust me.

Couldn’t agree more. Cal has 5-10 years left in his coaching career anyway. Just let it play out and don’t worry about it. It doesn’t really affect us unless you have CDS.

 

[VC99]

Where is this documented? Do you have a source?

Toughest remaining schedule in the country? When?

1 win away? So what happens if those other teams ahead of us all win 1 more game? Or the teams tied with us win 1 more? What about if the teams right behind us get 1 more? The what ifs don't matter, boo. We finished 9th. We didn't finish about of those teams. They finished ahead of us because they had better records or beat us.

They earned the seed and the higher ranked teams got beat. Arky was always supposed to have a easier first rd, then hard 2nd and 3rd. They played and beat 4th seed Vandy who blitzed Florida. That's not exactly easy. We barely beat a crappy LSU in a squeaker for the 2nd time. LSU is the lowest ranked SEC team, BTW. Then barely beat mizzou, before getting the **** beat out of us by UF for the 3rd time.

You certainly seem stable.

Bro do you know how message boards work?? Just because you don't pay attention or see KenPom, media, news, etc. at the time doesn't mean that I'm now going to go back and search for it all. "Give me your reference" Is just another way of saying "I don't know what I'm talking about or can't refute anything you say so now I'm going to make you do homework and go pull up everything" which I'm obviously not going to do. And "if's or buts" is not my argument. Again Arkansas is a mid tier SEC team and so was Kentucky. My whole point was that Arkansas objectively is getting a much better path than they deserve. I just think you are a dumb person sorry. You use emojis and have like 16 year old girl logic. I'm right and you are wrong. Any further comment by you will be regarded as "a complete waste of time" and will be ignored. Again, you have a low Iq.

 

[AMTGSLB]

Bro do you know how message boards work?? Just because you don't pay attention or see KenPom, media, news, etc. at the time doesn't mean that I'm now going to go back and search for it all. "Give me your reference" Is just another way of saying "I don't know what I'm talking about or can't refute anything you say so now I'm going to make you do homework and go pull up everything" which I'm obviously not going to do. And "if's or buts" is not my argument. Again Arkansas is a mid tier SEC team and so was Kentucky. My whole point was that Arkansas objectively is getting a much better path than they deserve. I just think you are a dumb person sorry. You use emojis and have like 16 year old girl logic. I'm right and you are wrong. Any further comment by you will be regarded as "a complete waste of time" and will be ignored. Again, you have a low Iq.

Aww, well, thanks for admitting you're just being irrational on a message board because you're suffering from CDS. Best if luck with that!

 

[HipTer]

Acuff should be in the discussion for the #1 pick. He honestly might be John’s 3rd or 4th best PG behind DRose, Wall and maybe Fox.

I think Acuff is probably the best offensive freshman PG Calipari has had.

 

[Loucatfan30]

Let’s be honest, if Mark Pope was a half decent coach, fans wouldn’t still be obsessing over Cal. I remember fans obsessing pretty hard over Pitino at UL when we had Tubby and BCG but many of us shut up once we had Calipari. Right now until we get past this mediocrity, Cal is going to be a big part of our mass manic episode.

That is definitely a true statement.

 

[Chadrock]

I think Acuff is probably the best offensive freshman PG Calipari has had.

Other than DJ Wagner.

 

[Kantucke_rivals]

That Arkansas and Zona game
Must see

 

[megablue]

Only 7 Hogs played today ... again !!!

 

[kfwa]

can't wait to read all the posts talking about how Cal is back after Arkansas beat a murderers row of Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Hawaii and High Point.

 

[Kywildcat_nation28]

Cal in line for the final 4 Arizona in the way but Cal thrives against higher ranked teams it's the lower seeds that beat him

 

[jrm693]

Never underestimate Cals ability to choke.

I wholeheartedly agree, but this team is different first you have Acuff best player in country who can't stand the thought of losing...then you have high energy guys in Richmond, Ewing and Brazile who are really playing hard...this team has that will to win. They don't need Cal and his clowns to win they could handle it if he wasn't even in the building.

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Acuff is the real deal, and Arkansas is playing good ball right now. They have 1 glaring issue that will bite them sometime during the tourney besides Cal's lack of ability to make adjustments during the game. That is the Hogs do not have a Center and get exposed in the post. Florida brutalized them in the post. They will struggle when they play Arizona down low. If they somehow get bast them they would struggle against Michigan, Florida, etc...

 

[seccats04]

I'm not here to defend Cal or Pope. But the fact is Arkansas had a much easier SEC schedule than we did. Arkansas got to play Ole Miss, LSU and Auburn twice this year. We got Tennessee, Florida and Vandy. But I can say there was no way we could've seen that Vandy was going to be much better than Auburn when the schedules were made. Auburn had been a great program the last several years and Vandy not so much. With all that said, we had no business losing to Missouri, Georgia and Auburn. Win those and we are easily a top 4 seed. But Pope has done this his entire career. Beat some teams you shouldn't and lose to teams you shouldn't. Inconsistency defined.

 

[Padsfs07]

Not really. Calipari got to combine UKs roster and recruits with Arkansas roster and recruits. Then he still had time to hit the portal. The move combined 2 rosters because he took everyone from UK with him. He was able to return Richmond, Knox, Wagner and Brazille to this team. He was able to return those guys because besides the tournament they stank most of the year barely making the field.
UK recruit
UK recruit
UK Player
Arkansas Player. He Returned.
He will never have another roster like this .

He will get 3 of them back next year too, plus the Jordan Smith Jr kid to replace Acuff. Basically the same team again probably.

 

[Padsfs07]

Are you high?

Fans all over this board and in general have been pounding their chests for UK to literally get a 4 seed and make a sw16.

Most consider last year a massive accomplishment, and we only did one of them.

1st year head coach vs. Cal in his 16th or 17th year is different. A lot of people are already very unhappy with 2nd year Pope. It's just different expectations and Pope got a one-year pass. The trajectory has to look like it's on the upswing.

Pitino was SEC champ in year 2, Elite 8 in 3, Final 4 in 4.

 

[piglet mignon]

can't wait to read all the posts talking about how Cal is back after Arkansas beat a murderers row of Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Hawaii and High Point.

To be fair all that's been said over here is Cal can't win in the SEC or NCAA Tournament anymore.

Ole Miss beat Alabama. Vandy beat Tennessee and Florida. High Point just beat a Wisconsin team that several media thought could give Arizona a run.

Im sure Kentucky has never benefited from upsets that were in their bracket .

Last year it was Kansas and St Johns and evidently the only reason he won those games is because he takes it seriously is when its Self and Pitino

 

[nipsnip]

Are you high?

Fans all over this board and in general have been pounding their chests for UK to literally get a 4 seed and make a sw16.

Most consider last year a massive accomplishment, and we only did one of them.

We were a 3 seed and made the Sweet 16. That's two.

 

[CUJO_1970]

You do realize that we beat the team that beat Tennessee and Florida, and Florida beat you, right?

This is the single dumbest sentence I’ve ever read on the internet.

 

[AMTGSLB]

1st year head coach vs. Cal in his 16th or 17th year is different. A lot of people are already very unhappy with 2nd year Pope. It's just different expectations and Pope got a one-year pass. The trajectory has to look like it's on the upswing.

Pitino was SEC champ in year 2, Elite 8 in 3, Final 4 in 4.

Pope wasn't a first year HC, dog. He came here in year 9 or 10 of coaching.

 

[AMTGSLB]

We were a seed and made the Sweet 16. That's two.

Um, princess, we are currently a 7 seed and haven't even made is past the first rd. So no, we aren't a 4 seed or in the sw16.