Ark coach is a moron for pitching

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

Their #3 - dont he know you have to win it ALL TONIGHT!!!!!!

Fire him tomorrow

 

[skydawg1]

Their #3 - dont he know you have to win it ALL TONIGHT!!!!!!

Fire him tomorrow

What's a #3? Is that a thing now?

 

[bigiron.sixpack]

It ain't a patch on an ol' number 6.**

 

[fang]

“What's a #3? Is that a thing now?”

It’s half of an ‘ol number 6’ ....there’s no dance.

 

[Go Budaw]

Their #3 - dont he know you have to win it ALL TONIGHT!!!!!!

Fire him tomorrow

Misleading statement....he was their #1 before the weighted balls took their pound of flesh***

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Their #3 - dont he know you have to win it ALL TONIGHT!!!!!!

Fire him tomorrow

Well Campbell is better than Billingsley so it’s more understandable than what we did today. Nice try though.

 

[She Mate Me]

You still suck.

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

Well Campbell is better than Billingsley so it’s more understandable than what we did today. Nice try though.

4-6 w/l for the 5 seed

 

[MSUDC11]

Well Campbell is better than Billingsley so it’s more understandable than what we did today. Nice try though.

Campbell started against Florida in March and Arkansas lost that game 17-2. I would argue that throwing Campbell for them was a bigger risk than throwing Billingsley was for us. Hindsight is 20/20, but both teams took a risk and theirs paid off while ours didn’t.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

4-6 w/l for the 5 seed

Win/Loss for a starter is a useless stat.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Campbell started against Florida in March and Arkansas lost that game 17-2. I would argue that throwing Campbell for them was a bigger risk than throwing Billingsley was for us. Hindsight is 20/20, but both teams took a risk and theirs paid off while ours didn’t.

It all depends what you believe. I’m not saying you’re wrong. If you believe in small sample sizes like 1 game then yeah but I like to judge it on body of work over a season.

Billingsley- 5+ run ERA and 1.61 WHIP
Campbell- 4.19 ERA and 1.46 WHIP

Campbell is better IMO and more understandable. Especially with the lethal hitting that Arkansas has.

 

[PreacherDog]

It all depends what you believe. I’m not saying you’re wrong. If you believe in small sample sizes like 1 game then yeah but I like to judge it on body of work over a season.

Billingsley- 5+ run ERA and 1.61 WHIP
Campbell- 4.19 ERA and 1.46 WHIP

Campbell is better IMO and more understandable. Especially with the lethal hitting that Arkansas has.

Why is it so hard to admit that it was a risk pitching their #3 vs a 1st round draft pick instead of their ace. Baseball is a funny game. At times this year, Billingsley has pitched decently. Your right, he's not a great #3. By stats Campbell is better, but he's no world beater. And history versus a particular group of hitters can be an indicator of how he might fare. Yesterday he was dealing. Since you like larger sample sizes. Some might say Oregon State is better than Florida since their W/L record is better. They've lost 10 fewer games than Florida. And since we were 3-0 vs them and got whooped by Oregon State that could tell you something but it's only one game. I do believe it was clear Billingsley didn't have it in the 1st inning (he was incredibly fortunate for that double play) and leash should have been much quicker but Oregon State is really good. Hindsight is 20/20. We just need to forget it and win today.
Also, I know our approach at the plate has been a large reason for the turnaround but in this CWS our hitting hasn't helped our pitchers much other than 2 innings. One of those greatly added by an error but that's baseball for you. When the other team gives you a chance you need to make the most of it.

 

[jdbulldog]

The game has passed him by

 

[campshelbydog842003]

People still defending Henderson for that dumbass decision? Good lord. Look at the Arkansas #3 and look at ours. They have the 3rd best pitching staff in the sec. ours was tenth or 11th or some **** like that. We could not afford to have to play 4 games in 5 days (if we even win today). Our bullpen will be out of gas by Tuesday, much less Wednesday.

 

[engie]

I liked the decision to start Billingsley on the surface. That said, was obvious he didn’t have “it” in the first 10 pitches of the game.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Why is it so hard to admit that it was a risk pitching their #3 vs a 1st round draft pick instead of their ace. Baseball is a funny game. At times this year, Billingsley has pitched decently. Your right, he's not a great #3. By stats Campbell is better, but he's no world beater. And history versus a particular group of hitters can be an indicator of how he might fare. Yesterday he was dealing. Since you like larger sample sizes. Some might say Oregon State is better than Florida since their W/L record is better. They've lost 10 fewer games than Florida. And since we were 3-0 vs them and got whooped by Oregon State that could tell you something but it's only one game. I do believe it was clear Billingsley didn't have it in the 1st inning (he was incredibly fortunate for that double play) and leash should have been much quicker but Oregon State is really good. Hindsight is 20/20. We just need to forget it and win today.
Also, I know our approach at the plate has been a large reason for the turnaround but in this CWS our hitting hasn't helped our pitchers much other than 2 innings. One of those greatly added by an error but that's baseball for you. When the other team gives you a chance you need to make the most of it.

It was a risk. That’s not the argument. I simply said it was a bigger risk IMO by us pitching Billingsley against Oregon State instead of them pitching Campbell and I provided objective stats to back up my stance. Nothing more than that. I enjoy different points of view. Im not speaking about you but some People like to take things personally when you disagree with them or have a differing opinion. Nothing is personal on here. Just talking sports about our favorite team.

 

[Go Budaw]

People still defending Henderson for that dumbass decision? Good lord. Look at the Arkansas #3 and look at ours. They have the 3rd best pitching staff in the sec. ours was tenth or 11th or some **** like that. We could not afford to have to play 4 games in 5 days (if we even win today). Our bullpen will be out of gas by Tuesday, much less Wednesday.

We were facing a pitcher yesterday with a 3-year career ERA of 3.00 and career record of 26-5 (10-1 this year). Our bats have been awful since we got to Omaha, save for 2 error extended innings against UNC. Put those two together, and you have a recipe for disaster if we threw Small, because we’d be burning nothing but bullpen guys in a must-win game today. I don’t know why people can’t understand that we would be in WAY, WAY worse shape today if we threw Small yesterday. He wasn’t holding them to 1 or zero runs. I’m sorry.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

We were facing a pitcher yesterday with a 3-year career ERA of 3.00 and career record of 26-5 (10-1 this year). Our bats have been awful since we got to Omaha, save for 2 error extended innings against UNC. Put those two together, and you have a recipe for disaster if we threw Small, because we’d be burning nothing but bullpen guys in a must-win game today. I don’t know why people can’t understand that we would be in WAY, WAY worse shape today if we threw Small yesterday. He wasn’t holding them to 1 or zero runs. I’m sorry.

Smh we’ll forever agree to disagree. You don’t have a clue what would have happened yesterday if Billingsley hadn’t brought his gas can to the mound with him. Ok why not start JP France? France is much better than JB.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

We were facing a pitcher yesterday with a 3-year career ERA of 3.00 and career record of 26-5 (10-1 this year). Our bats have been awful since we got to Omaha, save for 2 error extended innings against UNC. Put those two together, and you have a recipe for disaster if we threw Small, because we’d be burning nothing but bullpen guys in a must-win game today. I don’t know why people can’t understand that we would be in WAY, WAY worse shape today if we threw Small yesterday. He wasn’t holding them to 1 or zero runs. I’m sorry.

We were facing a pitcher on 3 days rest that was pulled after going 3.2 innings. When our coach made it obvious in the early innings that he was playing for Saturday, the game changed. When things start going down hill it makes people lose focus. You never know what would have happened offensively if we would have actually pitched to win yesterday. When it’s a blowout in the middle innings the air is out of the balloon. Now, even if we win today we are going into the championship series with 1 starting pitcher left in 3 games. It was a really bad move. Period.

 

[Philly Dawg]

France has been poor his last few outings and may be having arm problems. It will be interesting to see if he pitches tonight.

I have no problem pitching Billingsley looking at the big picture. It gives you a shot at having Small start the first game of the finals series.

 

[PreacherDog]

Smh we’ll forever agree to disagree. You don’t have a clue what would have happened yesterday if Billingsley hadn’t brought his gas can to the mound with him. Ok why not start JP France? France is much better than JB.

I agree that France would have been the better option. But it didnt happen. He looked pretty good in his inning of work against Washington.
But let's be honest if we can't score more we won't beat anyone. Sure you can't give up big innings and expect to win but 2 runs rarely wins in college baseball at this stage.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Billingsley should have been pulled after the first inning. They only scored one run because of boneheaded base running. Someone brought up resulting last week and that's exactly what happened yesterday. We thought JB wasn't a bad hand to play. I didn't mind the strategy at the start of the game. If he could have burned off four or five innings and make OSU go through more pitchers, it would have been good. But his first inning performance should have been enough to bring in France. I'm not a baseball coach, but so often coaches are reactionary when they should be proactive (e.g. letting a pitcher who lucked out keep pitching) and reactionary when they should be proactive (e.g. burning up pitchers quickly with the righty lefty moves).