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RU Husky

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Sep 26, 2011
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SEC killing it with 7 teams in. PAC-12 shines with 5 B1G lagging with 3 ( strong on a very thin top).

Illinois awaits. When they get in, I think that puts RU as the team which has the longest absence from the rankings.

Syracuse made it. Think about that.
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,038
12,832
113
Under the upcoming (dumb) 12 team playoff #26 Cincinnati makes the playoff because they are the 6th conference champ. Also Georgia and Michigan are bumped down because of the weird "Top 4 must be conference champs".
Oh ya, great system.

Seed - Team - Coaches Poll Rank:
1 Alabama (#1) SEC Champ
2 OSU (#3) OSU Champ
3 Clemson (#5) ACC Champ
4 USC (#6) PAC-12 Champ
5 Georgia (#2)
6 Michigan (#4)
7 Oklahoma State (#7) Big 12 Champ
8 Tennessee (#8)
9 Mississippi (#9)
10 Penn State (#10)
11 Utah (#11)
12 Cincinnati (#26) AAC Champ
 
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SEC killing it with 7 teams in. PAC-12 shines with 5 B1G lagging with 3 ( strong on a very thin top).

Illinois awaits. When they get in, I think that puts RU as the team which has the longest absence from the rankings.

Syracuse made it. Think about that.


 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,038
12,832
113
Great job at doing what? Would not be surprised if Cuse goes 0-5 in the next 5 games. The only team on their schedule that is halfway decent is Purdue.

"A win is a win".
Plenty were crowing about 3-0 and saying it doesn't matter opponent or performance. A win is a win at this level.

I guess you could say the same about 5-0 Syracuse?
 
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Under the upcoming (dumb) 12 team playoff #26 Cincinnati makes the playoff because they are the 6th conference champ. Also Georgia and Michigan are bumped down because of the weird "Top 4 must be conference champs".
Oh ya, great system.

Seed - Team - Coaches Poll Rank:
1 Alabama (#1) SEC Champ
2 OSU (#3) OSU Champ
3 Clemson (#5) ACC Champ
4 USC (#6) PAC-12 Champ
5 Georgia (#2)
6 Michigan (#4)
7 Oklahoma State (#7) Big 12 Champ
8 Tennessee (#8)
9 Mississippi (#9)
10 Penn State (#10)
11 Utah (#11)
12 Cincinnati (#26) AAC Champ
Yup I like it🤣
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
88,592
86,605
113
"A win is a win".
Plenty were crowing about 3-0 and saying it doesn't matter opponent or performance. A win is a win at this level.

I guess you could say the same about 5-0 Syracuse?
Nope. I never said that. But in typical fashion our "fans" love to denigrate RU's wins and lather up other teams and coaches. Strange way to live.

Cuse's schedule has beeen softer than a pillow. Louisville, UConn, Virginia (worse that BC) and Wagner. Plus Purdue. I gave them credit for that win. Let's talk after they play NC State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Pitt and Florida State.

I had said from beginning that RU fans would not know what kind of team we had until we played at least Iowa. Not fazed by Iowa loss or yesterday. I will reserve judgment until after Friday's game. More concerned about play-calling than the personnel on offense. Looks to be a typical Schiano team with a strong defense and still a lot of questions on offense.
 

T2Kplus20

Heisman
May 1, 2007
31,790
19,780
113
SEC killing it with 7 teams in. PAC-12 shines with 5 B1G lagging with 3 ( strong on a very thin top).

Illinois awaits. When they get in, I think that puts RU as the team which has the longest absence from the rankings.

Syracuse made it. Think about that.
Until RU starts to take the QB position seriously, the Top 25 is a fantasy.
 

mdk02

Heisman
Aug 18, 2011
26,674
18,962
113
Under the upcoming (dumb) 12 team playoff #24 Cincinnati makes the playoff because they are the 6th conference champ. Also Georgia and Michigan are bumped down because of the weird "Top 4 must be conference champs".
Oh ya, great system.

Seed - Team - Coaches Poll Rank:
1 Alabama (#1) SEC Champ
2 OSU (#3) OSU Champ
3 Clemson (#5) ACC Champ
4 USC (#6) PAC-12 Champ
5 Georgia (#2)
6 Michigan (#4)
7 Oklahoma State (#7) Big 12 Champ
8 Tennessee (#8)
9 Mississippi (#9)
10 Penn State (#10)
11 Utah (#11)
12 Cincinnati (#24) AAC Champ

FIFY
 
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mdk02

Heisman
Aug 18, 2011
26,674
18,962
113
"A win is a win".
Plenty were crowing about 3-0 and saying it doesn't matter opponent or performance. A win is a win at this level.

I guess you could say the same about 5-0 Syracuse?

But nobody was crowing about Wagner. UConn AND Wagner?
 

Yeah Baby

All-American
Aug 14, 2001
19,261
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Nope. I never said that. But in typical fashion our "fans" love to denigrate RU's wins and lather up other teams and coaches. Strange way to live.

Cuse's schedule has beeen softer than a pillow. Louisville, UConn, Virginia (worse that BC) and Wagner. Plus Purdue. I gave them credit for that win. Let's talk after they play NC State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Pitt and Florida State.

I had said from beginning that RU fans would not know what kind of team we had until we played at least Iowa. Not fazed by Iowa loss or yesterday. I will reserve judgment until after Friday's game. More concerned about play-calling than the personnel on offense. Looks to be a typical Schiano team with a strong defense and still a lot of questions on offense.
Agree on our “fans” always touting other teams and denigrating our own. Self loathing people are so fun to be around. Lol

We won @Cuse and Illinois last year. We won @MSU, Purdue and MD two years ago and @BC this year. All solid wins . We just need more of them and let’s not compare schedules to any of these teams currently being lauded by our “fans.”
 
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Sad to see Syracuse passed us yet again
They're having a better year than us to date and that's all I'll say. Consistency over time is what matters to say oh such such is passed us or whatever.

7-8 wins I think is possible for them and that is a solid season or them.

I like seeing teams like Illinois, WF, Kansas, KSU, Miss State, UK etc..do well and I like underdogs doing well. Who doesn't love underdog stories. I see us in them and what is possible. Who knows which teams will stick throughout the year and which won't but they're having their moments and I'm happy to see it.

Quite a few here think NIL and portal etc..doom us and I've never had that feeling. If anything I think it spreads the talent around more than it used to (playing opportunity still matters) and seeing teams like these performing here and there just strengthens my belief of what is possible.
 

Knight Owl

All-Conference
Jul 27, 2001
3,536
2,580
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Under the upcoming (dumb) 12 team playoff #26 Cincinnati makes the playoff because they are the 6th conference champ. Also Georgia and Michigan are bumped down because of the weird "Top 4 must be conference champs".
Oh ya, great system.

Seed - Team - Coaches Poll Rank:
1 Alabama (#1) SEC Champ
2 OSU (#3) OSU Champ
3 Clemson (#5) ACC Champ
4 USC (#6) PAC-12 Champ
5 Georgia (#2)
6 Michigan (#4)
7 Oklahoma State (#7) Big 12 Champ
8 Tennessee (#8)
9 Mississippi (#9)
10 Penn State (#10)
11 Utah (#11)
12 Cincinnati (#26) AAC Champ
I like the match-ups this creates though. Not bad. Michigan-Utah would be rockfight.
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,038
12,832
113
But nobody was crowing about Wagner. UConn AND Wagner?

I'm not lauding Syracuse.
Being ranked after Week 6 is meaningless.

I could just see how some could - especially if using the same criteria as lauding Rutgers after starting 3-0 against BC, Wagner and Temple.
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
88,592
86,605
113
Agree on our “fans” always touting other teams and denigrating our own. Self loathing people are so fun to be around. Lol

We won &Cuse and Illinois last year. We won @MSU two years ago and @BC this year. All solid wins . We just need more of them and let’s not compare schedules to any of these teams currently being lauded by our “fans.”
MSU. Remember when Mel Tucker was the apple of several RU fans' eyes? Of course they don't. But Pepperidge Farms remembers.

They're having a better year than us to date and that's all I'll say. Consistency over time is what matters to say oh such such is passed us or whatever.

7-8 wins I think is possible for them and that is a solid season or them.

I like seeing teams like Illinois, WF, Kansas, KSU, Miss State, UK etc..do well and I like underdogs doing well. Who doesn't love underdog stories. I see us in them and what is possible. Who knows which teams will stick throughout the year and which won't but they're having their moments and I'm happy to see it.

Quite a few here think NIL and portal etc..doom us and I've never had that feeling. If anything I think it spreads the talent around more than it used to (playing opportunity still matters) and seeing teams like these performing here and there just strengthens my belief of what is possible.
As I said above, let's see now that they are going to face a murderer's row compared to their last 5 games.
And consistency over more than one year is the thing. How quickly RU fans forget that after going 10-3, Babers went 5-7//2-6; 1-10//1-9 ; and 5-7//2-6. LOL, these same fans were probably denigrating the win over Syracuse last year.

And Mel Tucker. Great year last year, 11-2//7-2.
But year 1, he was 2-5//2-5
So far in year 3, he's 2-3//0-2, with no P5 wins and got embarrassed by Minnesota and Maryland. Ohio State up next for them.

Should we beat Michigan State, some of our "fans" will say that it's because they stink this year.
 
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mdh2003

All-Conference
Feb 4, 2003
4,866
3,795
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Under the upcoming (dumb) 12 team playoff #26 Cincinnati makes the playoff because they are the 6th conference champ. Also Georgia and Michigan are bumped down because of the weird "Top 4 must be conference champs".
Oh ya, great system.

Seed - Team - Coaches Poll Rank:
1 Alabama (#1) SEC Champ
2 OSU (#3) OSU Champ
3 Clemson (#5) ACC Champ
4 USC (#6) PAC-12 Champ
5 Georgia (#2)
6 Michigan (#4)
7 Oklahoma State (#7) Big 12 Champ
8 Tennessee (#8)
9 Mississippi (#9)
10 Penn State (#10)
11 Utah (#11)
12 Cincinnati (#26) AAC Champ
This has been a US sports thing for like forever. We loves our playoffs, to point of ridiculousness. Worst was NHL a few years ago, 21 teams, 16 made the dance, lol.

Most major sports have had an expanded playoffs the past few years. Only NBA and NHL haven’t…yet, lol. CFB finally decided that the money was worth it. Dollars to donuts the First Four becomes the Early Eight at some point.

And most sports put priority on confs/divisions. WFT made the playoffs AND hosted a game with a losing record a few years ago.

I really think the CFB powers threw that bone to the pee-on G5 for antitrust reasons.

Plus, most years, top 4 is all you really ever need, just adding ANY additional teams is the real problem. Arguing between #12 and #24? They both will be top 4 fodder either way. Honestly, not sure if one over the other really matters at that point.
 
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MSU. Remember when Mel Tucker was the apple of several RU fans' eyes? Of course they don't. But Pepperidge Farms remembers.


As I said above, let's see now that they are going to face a murderer's row compared to their last 5 games.
And consistency over more than one year is the thing. How quickly RU fans forget that after going 10-3, Babers went 5-7//2-6; 1-10//1-9 ; and 5-7//2-6. LOL, these same fans were probably denigrating the win over Syracuse last year.

And Mel Tucker. Great year last year, 11-2//7-2.
But year 1, he was 2-5//2-5
So far in year 3, he's 2-3//0-2, with no P5 wins and got embarrassed by Minnesota and Maryland. Ohio State up next for them.

Should we beat Michigan State, some of our "fans" will say that it's because they stink this year.
Yup consistency over time is exactly what I say and that means years. I especially say that for all the cuckoo contracts that get handed out on short term results.

Best thing you say for Tucker and results like that is great year and leave it that. You can’t read too much beyond it especially when he has little history as HC.
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
88,592
86,605
113
Dec 17, 2008
45,214
16,774
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MSU. Remember when Mel Tucker was the apple of several RU fans' eyes? Of course they don't. But Pepperidge Farms remembers.


As I said above, let's see now that they are going to face a murderer's row compared to their last 5 games.
And consistency over more than one year is the thing. How quickly RU fans forget that after going 10-3, Babers went 5-7//2-6; 1-10//1-9 ; and 5-7//2-6. LOL, these same fans were probably denigrating the win over Syracuse last year.

And Mel Tucker. Great year last year, 11-2//7-2.
But year 1, he was 2-5//2-5
So far in year 3, he's 2-3//0-2, with no P5 wins and got embarrassed by Minnesota and Maryland. Ohio State up next for them.

Should we beat Michigan State, some of our "fans" will say that it's because they stink this year.
I’ve mentioned in that past about some comments from Swarbrick. My numbers may be a little off but you’ll get the gist…it was something along the lines of in other NCAA sports you have like a 18-20% chance of the playoffs but in CFB it’s only 4% and there needs to be more opportunity. I agree with that.

And yea while only a handful of teams may have a legitimate shot of winning it all, getting into the playoffs occasionally or somewhat regularly can allow other teams to build their programs up over time to be a real challenge. Gonzaga was just an upstart at one time in basketball but now a legitimate contender.

Plus I think that “only a few team can win” idea gets skewed by Saban. I think he picks others up but when he retires I think things might open up a little more.
 

wheezer

Heisman
Jun 3, 2001
169,836
25,522
113
"A win is a win".
Plenty were crowing about 3-0 and saying it doesn't matter opponent or performance. A win is a win at this level.

I guess you could say the same about 5-0 Syracuse?
Syracuse got very lucky with two of their early wins
They still got The wins though and that is all that matters
 

Rufaninga

All-Conference
Oct 8, 2010
3,873
4,407
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Under the upcoming (dumb) 12 team playoff #26 Cincinnati makes the playoff because they are the 6th conference champ. Also Georgia and Michigan are bumped down because of the weird "Top 4 must be conference champs".
Oh ya, great system.

Seed - Team - Coaches Poll Rank:
1 Alabama (#1) SEC Champ
2 OSU (#3) OSU Champ
3 Clemson (#5) ACC Champ
4 USC (#6) PAC-12 Champ
5 Georgia (#2)
6 Michigan (#4)
7 Oklahoma State (#7) Big 12 Champ
8 Tennessee (#8)
9 Mississippi (#9)
10 Penn State (#10)
11 Utah (#11)
12 Cincinnati (#26) AAC Champ
It is better than what is in place.
Not to long ago, RU fans would complain that our conference 0layed better than the experts perception band got no respect. Experts lean toward SEC,B1G,ACC or blue bloods for rankings. So those conference wins count more and losses hurt less.

If you win your conference, you represent. Let the play ON the field play out. If you are the BEST team you will win all your games. If you are not you won't.
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,038
12,832
113
It is better than what is in place.
Not to long ago, RU fans would complain that our conference 0layed better than the experts perception band got no respect. Experts lean toward SEC,B1G,ACC or blue bloods for rankings. So those conference wins count more and losses hurt less.

If you win your conference, you represent. Let the play ON the field play out. If you are the BEST team you will win all your games. If you are not you won't.

That's fine but it's not designed that way.
"You win your conference, you represent" would mean ALL conference champs make the playoffs (see CBB).
This dumb setup still says "winng your conference only matter if you win the right conference."
 

fsg2_rivals

Heisman
Apr 3, 2018
10,881
13,184
0
It must be a miserable existence spending your Sunday analyzing what other teams have done well only so you can use that to complain about RU.

Oh, well. Monday will be here soon enough!
 

Mikemarc

Heisman
Nov 28, 2005
69,220
17,902
97
It must be a miserable existence spending your Sunday analyzing what other teams have done well only so you can use that to complain about RU.

Oh, well. Monday will be here soon enough!

love analyzing college football. Nothing miserable about it
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
122,351
38,103
113
"A win is a win".
Plenty were crowing about 3-0 and saying it doesn't matter opponent or performance. A win is a win at this level.

I guess you could say the same about 5-0 Syracuse?
The ONLY thing that matters this year is 6 wins. It is not if and when ranked...So- a win is a win is a win- we need 6 and I DGAF how we get them...

That said- Neb is the game that tells us if we have moved forward.
 

fsg2_rivals

Heisman
Apr 3, 2018
10,881
13,184
0
The ONLY thing that matters this year is 6 wins. It is not if and when ranked...So- a win is a win is a win- we need 6 and I DGAF how we get them...

That said- Neb is the game that tells us if we have moved forward.

"Sad to see Syracuse passed us yet again."

Deep analysis, dude.
 

Mikemarc

Heisman
Nov 28, 2005
69,220
17,902
97
"Sad to see Syracuse passed us yet again."

Deep analysis, dude.

I assume that was to me?

Agree with the sarcasm. Doesn’t take deep analysis to see Cuse is a better team. That’s sad. I’d hope all Rutgers fans agree.
 

Mufasa94

Senior
Jan 9, 2009
1,131
980
113
If you win your conference, you represent. Let the play ON the field play out.
I get tired of reading this false declaration.

The P5 conference champions who have been left out of the CFP did have their actual failures in play on the field make a difference in them not being included in the CFP.

In addition, why should OOC games be counted less than in conference games for a national playoff? Comparisons to pro sports playoffs have constantly been made, but never mention how those sports treat every game equal for records, but OOC records are inconsequential for cfb conferences.
If you are the BEST team you will win all your games. If you are not you won't.
Not every season has a team win all their games.
 

Extra Point_rivals157299

All-Conference
Aug 9, 2001
13,166
4,692
0
Rutgers is ranked 61
Boston College is ranked 88
Nebraska is ranked 92

How can Nebraska be ranked lower than BC?

 

Rufaninga

All-Conference
Oct 8, 2010
3,873
4,407
0
I get tired of reading this false declaration.

The P5 conference champions who have been left out of the CFP did have their actual failures in play on the field make a difference in them not being included in the CFP.

In addition, why should OOC games be counted less than in conference games for a national playoff? Comparisons to pro sports playoffs have constantly been made, but never mention how those sports treat every game equal for records, but OOC records are inconsequential for cfb conferences.

Not every season has a team win all their games.
OOC games COUNT toward strength of schedule and quality of wins. If you can't win your conference you shouldn't get a bye, BUT your quality wins should get you at large bid.
 

Ruthinking

All-Conference
Aug 7, 2011
2,153
1,969
113
SEC killing it with 7 teams in. PAC-12 shines with 5 B1G lagging with 3 ( strong on a very thin top).

Illinois awaits. When they get in, I think that puts RU as the team which has the longest absence from the rankings.

Syracuse made it. Think about that.
Well, Syracuse is 5-0. If we were 5-0 we'd be in the top 10 so unfortunately Syracuse is doing what they need to.