Anyone Interested in a 2000i Gameday Generator....

[engie]

I had been on the lookout for awhile. Both of these are steals compared to usual pricing. No tax and free shipping. I just paid thru PayPal to add a layer of protection and it just marked as shipped. In a year of watching fairly closely I’ve never seen the Hondas below $899+ tax. The Powerhorse is what Northern Tools sells daily for $599. Had one in my group that does a really good job, and it comes with a ~ $90 value parallel kit. Being NT’s default brand, it seems to have pretty good parts availability as well. Just an FYI to anyone else who may have been looking.

https://camape.net/index.php?route=product/search&search=Generator

 

[Dawgbite]

Heck of a price on both. I have a Honda 2000 that I have had for years, I use it for a battery charger probably more than a generator. There are a couple of people in our RV lot at State that run double powerhorses on their RV's and have had Zero problems with them. I wouldn't be scared of either.

 

[RocketDawg]

Is the Powerhorse really a Honda in a different case? Looks like it.

 

[engie]

I think the Powerhorse is really a Wen in a different case that is about 4-5 different names/brands...I'm not sure but I've heard some of those come with a Yamaha motor...

There is definite differences between the Honda and those others. Honda is a larger CC engine at much lower compression.

 

[RocketDawg]

I think the Powerhorse is really a Wen in a different case that is about 4-5 different names/brands...I'm not sure but I've heard some of those come with a Yamaha motor...

There is definite differences between the Honda and those others. Honda is a larger CC engine at much lower compression.

From my experience, you can't beat Honda for small engines. Except for one ... it's a small 4-cycle Honda engine in my Mantis tiller. It's been nothing but trouble.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Rocket, go ahead and order one. Let us know if it arrives and is new (not reconditioned.) That is a steal on both.

 

[RocketDawg]

OK, I'll do that even though I have no use for one. But I'll let you know how they work out. Just stand by. **

 

[engie]

UPS says mine will be here Saturday... We'll see...

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

OK, I'll do that even though I have no use for one. But I'll let you know how they work out. Just stand by. **

Sorry. I thought you started the thread. But if you are feeling froggy, I would love a second opinion to go with engie.

 

[Spiderman.sixpack]

is the PH as quiet as the Honda?

 

[Dawgbite]

is the PH as quiet as the Honda?

I think that the PH is about one decibel louder but they are close enough that I can't differentiat between the two. The PH has a little larger fuel tank. The Honda will run about 7 hours powering the inverter on my RV, the PH will run 8-9 hours.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

is the PH as quiet as the Honda?

Nope. I saw a bunch of them at a trade show. Generac booth. Generac and Honda were quietest. Yamaha right behind, then everyone else. If it's for camping, you may want the Honda or Generac. Tailgating, nobody will notice.

I am a big PH fan though. It's quality Chinese crap. Way better than Harbor Freight (Predator?) You will have some junky stuff like handles getting loose and rubber feet falling off. The wattage is fudged on most PH, but I have 2 9kws with over 500 hours and still kicking strong. (Bought two 7kws, but they couldn't handle the load they claimed, so the store manager upgraded me to 9kw at no charge.)

I figured having two for half the cost of the Honda was a win. It has been.

 

[engie]

Of interest, the ups “my choice” updated today — and it drop shipped direct from Northern Tools. Interesting.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I am betting it's reconditioned or just a return. Doesn't mean it's a bad deal, just doesn't make sense otherwise. I am still interested in your review.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

Who makes the engine? I’ve seen generators at Harbor Freight for half of what a competitive generator goes for and they even had Kawasaki engines on them. The rule of thumb anytime I buy from Harbor Freight is: bring home, disassemble, reassemble correctly and now you have a decent tool. That would definitely apply for a generator.

The Chinese simply can’t tap holes correctly which is where the build quality lacks on stuff that comes from places like HF. You buy it, disassemble and inspect, drill out bad taps and replace with inserts, throw away all screws and bolts that you removed and replace with hardened steel hardware. Bent shafts are also an issue, especially with something like a drill press, and that can’t be easily fixed, so I take them back till I get one that isn’t bent.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

You running regular gas or ethanol free. Small engines have to have ethanol free. That is a point they don’t make clearly enough though. Gas that you put in your car will varnish the hell out a carburetor on a Honda lawn mower engine. I destroyed a Troybuilt mower by putting regular gas in it.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Best I have seen from powerhorse is they are Chinese knockoffs of the Honda. They are throw aways. Like you said, just buy a tube of locktite and tighten everything up. I will end up trading mine to one of my subs for a day or two of work when it's time to buy a new one. No sense in ever trying to fix them.

 

[engie]

Yeah, I'm probably 20 hours in on my HF Central Machinery 7x12 lathe getting the little stuff right. Luckily I did a bunch of research prior to purchasing and knew what was coming as far as building shims/removing set screws, replacing with tapered bearings, etc...

I'll inspect the engine and see what I come up with. It matches up identically with the Yamaha spec-wise(79cc, same noise rating, same tank size, etc). I'm betting there is a Yamaha stamp somewhere on the motor...

 

[WrapItDog]

Did you get it? If yes is it as advertised?

 

[engie]

Got it. As advertised. Have run through two tanks of gas trying to get through break in on the dino oil so I can go to full synthetic.

It shipped direct from Northern Tools. With a Northern Tools receipt in the box from the day of shipment at full Northern Tools price(under what I'm assuming is the name of the intermediary), which doesn't make much sense to me, but someone has obviously figured out a loophole either on NT's website or somewhere along their process. I wondered last night while at NT if that would make the item returnable in store at full price cash back? Probably would go back on the original purchase card, huh? Anyway, I don't know how to say with 100% certainty that it isn't a refurb, but it certainly appeared new. And the crankcase had never had enough oil run through it to leave any sort of residue, etc... Was loud at first on the break in but is really quieting down now.

I bought a magnetic dipstick on Amazon(for a yamaha 2000 but works here perfectly) and honestly don't know why these things do not come with one. The amount of metal it is pulling out of the oil is pretty crazy. So far so good on it overall.