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StormCruzzer

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- No exhibition games
- Limited crowd and weird atmosphere
- Little time to build chemistry
- Little time to work on X’s and O’s
- Still learning to play team basketball and not rely on athleticism and length alone
- Solid experienced Richmond team who understands fundamental basketball

Some of you really need to go back to high school so you can remember just how young these players are. It’s a big change going from “Me” basketball in high school to team basketball.

Sarr had a great first half. Why? He has experience. Mintz is still a bit shaky because he’s still trying to find how he fits in among freshman who are more talented and athletic than him. It’s the beginning of the season.

Calm down. 😂
 
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I'm not to worried yet, watching the women's team is helping me get past today's loss.
 
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carolinacat

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StormCruzzer said:
- No exhibition games
- Limited crowd and weird atmosphere
- Little time to build chemistry
- Little time to work on X’s and O’s
- Still learning to play team basketball and not rely on athleticism and length alone
- Solid experienced Richmond team who understands fundamental basketball

Some of you really need to go back to high school so you can remember just how young these players are. It’s a big change going from “Me” basketball in high school to team basketball.

Sarr had a great first half. Why? He has experience. Mintz is still a bit shaky because he’s still trying to find how he fits in among freshman who are more talented and athletic than him. It’s the beginning of the season.

Calm down. 😂
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All good points. What bothers me is....1. I'm not sure Askew is that good...he had a terrible stat line, but their guards were really tough. 2. Our two big guns are 0-11 from 3pt ....I think our ceiling is a little lower than what I'd hoped.
 
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BourbonBalz

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StormCruzzer said:
- No exhibition games
- Limited crowd and weird atmosphere
- Little time to build chemistry
- Little time to work on X’s and O’s
- Still learning to play team basketball and not rely on athleticism and length alone
- Solid experienced Richmond team who understands fundamental basketball

Some of you really need to go back to high school so you can remember just how young these players are. It’s a big change going from “Me” basketball in high school to team basketball.

Sarr had a great first half. Why? He has experience. Mintz is still a bit shaky because he’s still trying to find how he fits in among freshman who are more talented and athletic than him. It’s the beginning of the season.

Calm down. 😂
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Actually this team has had MORE time than normal. They got about 3 more weeks of practice than normal before actually playing games. Does anyone really think a couple of exhibition games against the like of Transylvania really make any difference? I certainly don’t.
 
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StormCruzzer said:
- No exhibition games
- Limited crowd and weird atmosphere
- Little time to build chemistry
- Little time to work on X’s and O’s
- Still learning to play team basketball and not rely on athleticism and length alone
- Solid experienced Richmond team who understands fundamental basketball

Some of you really need to go back to high school so you can remember just how young these players are. It’s a big change going from “Me” basketball in high school to team basketball.

Sarr had a great first half. Why? He has experience. Mintz is still a bit shaky because he’s still trying to find how he fits in among freshman who are more talented and athletic than him. It’s the beginning of the season.

Calm down. 😂
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I agree be calm. We may lose a few more, but o.a. we will be there at the end.
 
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Frustrated yes. But we seen same crap before. They will focus and get better. I mean turnovers give u no shot to beat anybody. We got another game to focus on.
 
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Cats192

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Boston had 20 points and 10 rebounds.
Sarr had 17 and 11.

We have the star players that we've been lacking.

We shot 4/10 from 3 in the last game.
For all the people screaming we don't have any 3 point shooting--just a game ago we were at 40%.

Richmond is a very good, experienced basketball team. They'll be in the NCAA tournament. They played good basketball. We haven't learned that yet.

Evansville was terrible team and that was such an inexcusable loss. This is the opposite. Richmond is very good.

Despite them being very good--we turned the ball over 21 times, we missed 13 free throws, we shot 36% from the field--they beat us by 12. If you'd told me we turn the ball over 20+ times, miss 13 free throws a miss twice as many shots as we make--I'd tell you we lost by 30+.

This is the most talented bunch we've had since Fox and Monk. If the
 
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StormCruzzer said:
- No exhibition games
- Limited crowd and weird atmosphere
- Little time to build chemistry
- Little time to work on X’s and O’s
- Still learning to play team basketball and not rely on athleticism and length alone
- Solid experienced Richmond team who understands fundamental basketball

Some of you really need to go back to high school so you can remember just how young these players are. It’s a big change going from “Me” basketball in high school to team basketball.

Sarr had a great first half. Why? He has experience. Mintz is still a bit shaky because he’s still trying to find how he fits in among freshman who are more talented and athletic than him. It’s the beginning of the season.

Calm down. 😂
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Couldn't agree more
 
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Cats192

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BourbonBalz said:
Actually this team has had MORE time than normal. They got about 3 more weeks of practice than normal before actually playing games. Does anyone really think a couple of exhibition games against the like of Transylvania really make any difference? I certainly don’t.
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Practice isn't the same as a game.

I think a game against Transy helps you more than practices against yourself.

Perhaps we see the same result. The reality is, this team doesn't know what their offense needs to be. They didn't take care of the ball. They didn't make 3's or free throws.

Going through a couple more games would have made them a bit more comfortable than just the 1 they've had. But they may have dominated other teams based on size alone--and not had to have worked on the actual skill part of basketball.
 
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BourbonBalz

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Cats192 said:
Practice isn't the same as a game.

I think a game against Transy helps you more than practices against yourself.

Perhaps we see the same result. The reality is, this team doesn't know what their offense needs to be. They didn't take care of the ball. They didn't make 3's or free throws.

Going through a couple more games would have made them a bit more comfortable than just the 1 they've had. But they may have dominated other teams based on size alone--and not had to have worked on the actual skill part of basketball.
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Scrimmaging against themselves in practice helps more than beating down a couple of teams that just can’t compete. At least it should.
 
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Cats192

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BourbonBalz said:
Scrimmaging against themselves in practice helps more than beating down a couple of teams that just can’t compete. At least it should.
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I don't believe it does. You've played the same guys for 3 weeks. You've figured out their strengths and weaknesses. You know how you can beat them. You know how they can beat you. And everyone knows the offense. So it's not like you're going to surprise people by running the offense well.

I believe the whole "iron sharpens iron," but we don't need sharpening. We dominated the rebounds. Our iron is sharp. We need finesse and skill. We need to execute an offense to get a good look--and we need to make those good looks.
 
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A loss in November to a very experienced, solid team will be a teaching platform for Calipari. He will get them focused and sharing the ball more, playing team defense and talking more with each other - all things that were not being taught in AAU ball. These young men are still learning how to play with each other and as many folks said preseason, will take some early lumps. By mid season, with the talent they have, they will be fine. We must be patient and let them evolve. There were 0 players from last year's team playing today. Let that soak in. O experienced players and that showed today. Calipari will have them playing as a unit in due time. I think we see vast improvement against Kansas on Tuesday night.
 
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Wildcat-in-STL said:
0-10 from 3pt range. If that doesnt worry you..... then you dont really care much or you're lying.
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Sure, but...

Herro was overrated after his first few games. "LOL this guy's a shooter?"
I'm not sure why we barely played Mintz in the first 3/4 of the game. He's probably our best shooter and needs to be on the floor.

We were 4/10 in the last game. I think this will improve quite a bit.
 
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Cats192 said:
Sure, but...

Herro was overrated after his first few games. "LOL this guy's a shooter?"
I'm not sure why we barely played Mintz in the first 3/4 of the game. He's probably our best shooter and needs to be on the floor.

We were 4/10 in the last game. I think this will improve quite a bit.
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the herro team never went a game without hitting a 3pt shot. just being able to have a game like this is a major red flag
 
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Wednesday night people were saying it’s the best team since 2015. Four days later we apparently don’t have what it takes to win a title. Relax lol. Literally every player we have is brand new. They’ve only been practicing together for a month. We don’t even know who we are as a team yet. Anyone who thought we were gunna come in and win by 30 against this Richmond team is delusional lol.
 
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StormCruzzer said:
- No exhibition games
- Limited crowd and weird atmosphere
- Little time to build chemistry
- Little time to work on X’s and O’s
- Still learning to play team basketball and not rely on athleticism and length alone
- Solid experienced Richmond team who understands fundamental basketball

Some of you really need to go back to high school so you can remember just how young these players are. It’s a big change going from “Me” basketball in high school to team basketball.

Sarr had a great first half. Why? He has experience. Mintz is still a bit shaky because he’s still trying to find how he fits in among freshman who are more talented and athletic than him. It’s the beginning of the season.

Calm down. 😂
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Richmond would have done that to many top 25 teams today. Probably at least half. They’re real.
 
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Cats192 said:
Boston had 20 points and 10 rebounds.
Sarr had 17 and 11.

We have the star players that we've been lacking.

We shot 4/10 from 3 in the last game.
For all the people screaming we don't have any 3 point shooting--just a game ago we were at 40%.

Richmond is a very good, experienced basketball team. They'll be in the NCAA tournament. They played good basketball. We haven't learned that yet.

Evansville was terrible team and that was such an inexcusable loss. This is the opposite. Richmond is very good.

Despite them being very good--we turned the ball over 21 times, we missed 13 free throws, we shot 36% from the field--they beat us by 12. If you'd told me we turn the ball over 20+ times, miss 13 free throws a miss twice as many shots as we make--I'd tell you we lost by 30+.

This is the most talented bunch we've had since Fox and Monk. If the
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At least 8 of those TO's were very headscratching offensive fouls. Those refs were horrible; but we'll even clean that up.
 
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Cats192 said:
I don't believe it does. You've played the same guys for 3 weeks. You've figured out their strengths and weaknesses. You know how you can beat them. You know how they can beat you. And everyone knows the offense. So it's not like you're going to surprise people by running the offense well.

I believe the whole "iron sharpens iron," but we don't need sharpening. We dominated the rebounds. Our iron is sharp. We need finesse and skill. We need to execute an offense to get a good look--and we need to make those good looks.
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Based on today’s game we definitely need some sharpening. We need to be able to shoot, take care of the ball, actually run an offense, and guard something other than a fence post. Other than that.....
 
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The thing that IS consistent year to year is that there is no offensive scheme
 
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Not worried at all this is a throw away season either way. I’m tired of the cycle in general though....guys think they have to leave after 1-2 years, ready or not...then we suck for the first 2 months...seems that we don’t ever have quite enough to make it over the hill in the long run. Can’t count on generational talent coming every year.
 
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WildMoon

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Yeah not worried

my main concern this year was repetition. Game play, etc.

It’s insanely young team with experience with no experience on this team.

They’ll get better and better each game
 
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aikenite4uk said:
All good points. What bothers me is....1. I'm not sure Askew is that good...he had a terrible stat line, but their guards were really tough. 2. Our two big guns are 0-11 from 3pt ....I think our ceiling is a little lower than what I'd hoped.
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Have we actually had a real good shooting team in the last 4 or 5 years? A few shooters here and there yeas but, we seem to have traded that for length and athleticism. 2018 was not bad but...
 
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kydmb99_rivals103809

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Depends on what “worries” you. Do I believe this team will be playing better later in the season? Yes. Do I believe we’re an elite team that will be a favorite for the Final 4. No. So if you’re worried about being an elite team then yes I am worried.

We’ll play well towards the end of the season, get a 3 seed then lose in the S16 or E8. That’s what we are now and have been the last half decade.
 
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